Blue Ensign Posted May 8, 2013 #331 Posted May 8, 2013 Well Andy it depends in part whether you want to follow the kit plans No 7 and 8, or Sections 15.37 or 15.39 in your newly acquired Volume IV. In terms of the kit plans for the Fore Top there are three block each side of the top both fore and aft to take the Spritsail Topsail braces, and bunt and leechlines. It looks to me that they intend the inner double block to take both the Spritsail and Spritsail topsail braces, the outer single block to take the leechlines, and the middle block to take the bunt lines. On the Main top they are showing only two blocks beneath the top each side on the forward crosstree only. These appear to be for the Bunt and leechlines which are then carried directly to the deck without passing through a set of aft blocks. I'll leave you to read the sections in Volume IV and decide which way you want to go. B.E. Martin W 1 Quote Current Build: Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-1:64-scale HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation.
realworkingsailor Posted May 8, 2013 Author #332 Posted May 8, 2013 (edited) Now you've got me scaning along through the book as well I think I'm starting to figure out what you're saying.. (Stop me if I'm wrong) if I follow the kit, using eyebolts hanging from the cross trees... The fore top has 12(?) underneath.. The 6 forward blocks for the sprit sail, and the 6 aft ones for the fore course. The main top only has 6 on the aft cross tree for the main course... I hope that sounds correct-ish.. Thanks for your help.. (If I haven't said so already) Andy Edited May 8, 2013 by realworkingsailor Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
Blue Ensign Posted May 8, 2013 #333 Posted May 8, 2013 Not quite Andy, all the lines pass thro' the blocks attached to the forward crosstrees on the Fore Top then thro' the equivalent blocks attached to the aft crosstrees, then down to the deck. The Main top has only four beneath the top (two each side) attached to the forward crosstrees only, the lines pass thro' the blocks and then directly to the deck. Well that's how Chris Watton sees it. B.E. Quote Current Build: Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-1:64-scale HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation.
realworkingsailor Posted May 8, 2013 Author #334 Posted May 8, 2013 Ok... I think I've got it now... Thanks again for the help. Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
popeye the sailor Posted May 8, 2013 #335 Posted May 8, 2013 good to see your back at it Andy.....your masting looks very good realworkingsailor 1 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch
Script Posted May 8, 2013 #336 Posted May 8, 2013 Andy, Looking good. Gonna be interesting to see what you do with the leeches and bunts..... I understand that if you put salt on the leeches they will fall off, so be careful.... Cheers, Jim trippwj, mobbsie, gjdale and 2 others 5 Quote Completed Robert E Lee, Misisssippi riverboat Completed, HMS Victory Bow Section Completed, Wells Fargo Stagecoach...Picasa album.... Completed, Lackawanna tugboat converted to private yacht... Completed: Sopwith Camel, 1:16 Scale, Model Airways...at another location... Completed: 1961 Ferrari F-1 Sharknose Completed: (sorta) OcCre BR-18 Locomotive Completed: 1/35 Pz.KPfw.III Completed: Allerton Steam Pumper circa 1869
gjdale Posted May 9, 2013 #337 Posted May 9, 2013 Andy, Just to throw in my 2c, it seems a shame to have a resource like TFFM and not follow that advice - it is more likely to be accurate IMHO. Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout
themadchemist Posted May 9, 2013 #338 Posted May 9, 2013 Don't ask me on the rigging but it looks like you mastered the mast finally. Nice work, now she starts to grow Quote
realworkingsailor Posted May 9, 2013 Author #339 Posted May 9, 2013 Thanks everyone Grant, I know where you're coming from, I still haven't made any final decisions yet. From the sounds of things, most of those blocks will end up being vacant anyway (since I don't plan on adding sails)... I dunno I've got convincing arguments for both cases running around in my head.... It could go either way.. More updates of yesterday's progress coming soon.... Andy trippwj 1 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
Shazmira Posted May 9, 2013 #340 Posted May 9, 2013 Since Sjors is away for vaca....I will take over in his stead. WHERE ARE THE PICS? I WANNA SEE SOME PICS! mtaylor, augie and realworkingsailor 3 Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version)
realworkingsailor Posted May 9, 2013 Author #341 Posted May 9, 2013 OK, ok!... Don't get all bent out of shape... I've got the battens done on the main top, next step will be to do the bands and cleats, then the main mast will get painted up. Foremast all painted and the wooldings put on, I had to joggle the spacing a little bit, but it's not really noticeable unless you attack the thing with a ruler. Also got the bowsprit all cleated and painted up, and yes according to the plans, those cleats are supposed to look like that. And just for good measure, a couple of overall shots.... nevermind the mess on the workbench... the paint revolution has not yet come... Now... is that better? Andy hamilton, mtaylor, mobbsie and 5 others 8 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
trippwj Posted May 9, 2013 #342 Posted May 9, 2013 (edited) Ooohhh....aahhhh....VERY nice work, Andy! Since you posted all of these today, what do you have left to post for pictures tomorrow? "You Know Who" (and his evil twin "You Know Her") are gonna keep asking for more, you know... Edited May 9, 2013 by trippwj mtaylor, Sjors, Shazmira and 1 other 4 Quote WayneNeither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.Epictetus
themadchemist Posted May 9, 2013 #343 Posted May 9, 2013 Wow, I'm satisfied. I didn't expect pictures this quick. Nice work Andy! Your moving quickly. Quote
augie Posted May 9, 2013 #344 Posted May 9, 2013 Wow.....Pegasus is FLYING. Nice work Andy. Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
realworkingsailor Posted May 9, 2013 Author #345 Posted May 9, 2013 Wayne: Duct tape! Keeps 'em quiet Andy trippwj, Shazmira and mtaylor 3 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
themadchemist Posted May 9, 2013 #346 Posted May 9, 2013 Careful with the Duct tape, Eugene. True story: One of the teacher at the grade school In the district I worked at Duct taped a students mouth and them to the chair. It made National news, talk about bad publicity. Quote
Sjors Posted May 9, 2013 #347 Posted May 9, 2013 Oh Dear, i'm not gone yet and the moderator (You know her ) is do an hostile take over! Can she not wait till I'm really gone?????? I was thinking a little about tomorrow…. Me, standing on the bridge….sailing into the sunset…to see that good old England, land of wind and rain. I look back and see the port of Rotterdam, slowly moving out of my view. My house a little further away…with my PC with the Internet. Thinking at that wonderful site called MSW. Where all my friends are in tears because I'm not there to cheer them up with al those difficult things like painting, rigging and spider training. How do they survive without me….. And then this…yippie he is away, I can call for pictures! Another dream in pieces! Thank you Robbyn!!!!!!!! gjdale, trippwj, Shazmira and 3 others 6 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
Shazmira Posted May 9, 2013 #348 Posted May 9, 2013 I am satisfied, for a day or two at most...you know women, we are never truly satisfied lol. Looks dang nice Andy, workspace mess and all, my focus was still on Peggy...I think she will be a real beauty! Sjors, don't panic , no one can take your place . I just didn't want Andy to think he was going to get off easy just because you are going on vacation mtaylor, trippwj, realworkingsailor and 1 other 4 Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version)
newbuilder101 Posted May 9, 2013 #349 Posted May 9, 2013 Looking great Andy! It always amazes me how even one addition to a build can bring it more to life...let alone all these additions! Keep up the good work! realworkingsailor 1 Quote Sherry Every goodbye is the birth of a memory... Current Build: San Felipe Finished Builds: Mayflower Build Log Gallery: Mayflower
mtaylor Posted May 9, 2013 #350 Posted May 9, 2013 Nice work, Andy. If nothing else, if you don't add the blocks, you (and the rest of us) will know they're not there. But presumably, we can keep this secret... or not. But no pressure, no guilt. The pics were worth the wait. gjdale, augie and Shazmira 3 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Jim Lad Posted May 10, 2013 #351 Posted May 10, 2013 Just checking in, Andy - very nice work on the masts, mate! John Quote
popeye the sailor Posted May 10, 2013 #352 Posted May 10, 2013 comming along great Andy.........ohhhh, bow spirit.......you know what that means. yepper, limited range of movement....do be careful, my friend. I see there is one more step to go on the fore and main.......they look the nine! Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch
mobbsie Posted May 10, 2013 #353 Posted May 10, 2013 Hi Andy, Short sleeve shirts only from now mate, that pointed sticky out thing in the front is just made for catching a shirt sleeve or jumper. She's looking absolutely great mate, your doing a superb job, hope you know who has had his fix on the pics. mobbsie trippwj 1 Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :-
patrickmil Posted May 10, 2013 #354 Posted May 10, 2013 I just have to echo everyone else's comments. Great work on your 'sleeve-catchers'! She's going to be tall too! Quote Thanks, Patrick YouTube Channel for fun: Patrick's Scale Studio Finished: Model Shipways US Brig Niagara I Love Kit USS Curtis Wilbur DDG-54 Current: Trumpeter USS Yorktown CV-5
realworkingsailor Posted May 10, 2013 Author #355 Posted May 10, 2013 Thanks everyone, for the continued positive feedback. I am fully aware of the snag hazard now presented, I guess having long-ish arms helps... And the warm weather will help keep sweaters away Today work will resume on the main mast, I'll try to get most of the detail work done on it... Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
augie Posted May 10, 2013 #356 Posted May 10, 2013 No sleeves, watches, cigarettes or cats! Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
realworkingsailor Posted May 10, 2013 Author #357 Posted May 10, 2013 Too hot for sleeves.... I don't smoke... No cats allowed in the house (I'm allergic) And I wear may watch on my left arm and have the starboard ship side facing me when I work (for now... ) Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
augie Posted May 10, 2013 #358 Posted May 10, 2013 I hope you build one-handed. Watch the watch! Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
realworkingsailor Posted May 10, 2013 Author #359 Posted May 10, 2013 It's pretty tight to my wrist.. But it will be removed when things start to get dicey augie 1 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
newbuilder101 Posted May 10, 2013 #360 Posted May 10, 2013 I have to be careful with my glasses....of all things! I was up close and personal with the masts and yards, while rigging my Mayflower, and hooked my glasses. I leaned back and my glasses were dangling from one of the blocks! Fortunately nothing was harmed, but I now know the potential for disaster. :mellow: Padeen and mtaylor 2 Quote Sherry Every goodbye is the birth of a memory... Current Build: San Felipe Finished Builds: Mayflower Build Log Gallery: Mayflower
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