Shazmira Posted May 4, 2013 Share #301 Posted May 4, 2013 Sounds like heaven to me Andy! Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted May 5, 2013 Share #302 Posted May 5, 2013 (edited) Hi Andy, Following on with the hand drill lathe mate here is a pic of one from the old MSW, I cant remember who posted it, hope they dont mind. I keep meaning to build it myself but just hav'nt gotten round to it yet. I would make just one small modifiation which is to place a roller bearing to hold the dowel end, we dont want any fires do we. I hope you dont mind me posting this to you but I thought it might help. Have a great stay in the wild's mate and come back all refreshed and eager to get stuck in again. mobbsie Edited May 5, 2013 by mobbsie realworkingsailor 1 Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted May 5, 2013 Author Share #303 Posted May 5, 2013 That's a pretty nice set up.. But I think, given the work in setting one up.... I'd still rather go for the real thing... Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted May 5, 2013 Share #304 Posted May 5, 2013 take some time for your self.....you've been couped up on that ship........only to come home to find peg dripping at the bow for your touch. Yepper! get in some 'you' time! Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share #305 Posted May 6, 2013 Haha.. Thanks Popeye The lake was still a bit on the "absolutely f****** frigid" side of things.... and due to some serious water miss-management on the Gull River system... 5 feet higher than normal... The back of our property is normally a fern swamp... this year it's what you may call "navigable" ... Add to the fact that the prevailing winds and currents bring anything adrift in the lake our direction... Between us and the neighbours... We've got quite the collection of flotsam... Oh what fun... Of course now that they've got everything opened up to allow the excess water upstream down, we're all hoping they don't forget and drain the lake altogether... Time will tell... Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share #306 Posted May 6, 2013 Back to model ship building... First up... For Michael, a nice photo of the beast sitting in the shed (Never mind the golf cart in behind ) As you can see.. it's missing more than a few parts..... and it's really more designed for heavy wood turning like furniture parts etc. Started work on the main topmast today.. got about as far as you see in the photo... then the postman showed up and work was suspended... hopefully what showed up at the door will help in the long run.... Andy Shazmira and augie 2 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted May 6, 2013 Share #307 Posted May 6, 2013 That lathe is brilliant the headstock and tailstock have been made from a couple of engine pistons so it is homemade and would not take much to get it into a usable condition by the looks of it. a bit of a clean up and a motor A 3/8 or 1/2 inch drill chuck and you coul;d be in business soon enough. Michael Blueskippy 1 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share #308 Posted May 6, 2013 I'm glad you see some potential in that thing... There are rumours the missing pieces are somewhere in a box... Although given my recent experiences and Danny's advice... I'm going to stay away from drill chucks... Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted May 6, 2013 Share #309 Posted May 6, 2013 He my friend, You are home again? Hope you enjoy the stay with your friends….. Question….you make that lathe by your self? And the postman brings you a book…. Why can I not found those things over here. Yesterday I have been one hour in a bookstore and I found really nothing! Yeah, ships from this time but not the ships that we are looking for. But I keep searching…..otherwise when you are away I bring your house a visit Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share #310 Posted May 6, 2013 Who ever made that lathe... Made it a very long time ago... It belonged to my Grandfather. And for the next few weeks, as long as the weather remains pleasant, I will be back and forth from the cottage with a fair degree of regularity. As for the book, ordered it online two weeks ago... I can't find books like that in local bookstores around here either... Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padeen Posted May 6, 2013 Share #311 Posted May 6, 2013 Hi Andy, If that can cheer you up about the weather: in Rome, rain all the week... Congrat's on your new book: it's a treat! And nice job on the masts so far! I am a hand tools worshiper myself but... boys will be boys as they say! Enjoy your lathe learning ('carefull to!) Quote Padeen (Adeline) "When there is a will, there is a way" Completed build: Le Camaret - Constructo - static wood 1:35 (build log, gallery) Current build (very limited modelling time at the moment...): HMS Fly - Amati/Victory Models - static wood 1:64 (build log) Projected build: HMS Victory - Chris Watton's design - static wood 1:64 (when available..., no rush!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share #312 Posted May 6, 2013 Hi Adeline, just missed you I'm going to end up finishing this build by hand. Sorry to hear about the rain... But at least it's not snow From just a quick skim through the book, there is a lot of good info that will supplement the kit diagrams nicely. Just what I needed, I hope Andy mtaylor and Padeen 2 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussben Posted May 6, 2013 Share #313 Posted May 6, 2013 Hi Andy, well done on the purchase of a TFFM book, they are all worth having as there is great info for any type of ship build. Ben mtaylor and realworkingsailor 2 Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted May 6, 2013 Share #314 Posted May 6, 2013 Now Ive seen everything. I think the piston lathe trumps my motorcraft 1 bbl carb lamp, hands down. What an ingenious Idea for a lathe bearing surface/support, 2 pistons. I may have a few laying around here some where also,....Hum.... And I still have 2 half HP motors I salvaged from old vacuum pumps in the lab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBlack Posted May 7, 2013 Share #315 Posted May 7, 2013 Volume 4? Does that mean that you have the previous 3 volumes? David is around here somewhere; bet you could get him to sign it! Also, this book is focusing on what you call "the dark side" (I'd call it freedom!); does that mean that you're getting closer to the edge? Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted May 7, 2013 Author Share #316 Posted May 7, 2013 Actually I don't have the other volumes. I have built other wooden ship models in the past (don't ask), but never a full rigged ship. The more I looked at the "instructions", the more my eyes got crossed... And then I saw Gil's Victory... And my head started spinning a bit... So I thought that for the rigging I needed a little bit more help... And the rest is history... I may yet go back and buy the other volumes, just to have as a reference.. You never know.... Andy Shazmira 1 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted May 7, 2013 Share #317 Posted May 7, 2013 Hi Andy, Congrats on the TFFM book. It's a beauty and has been a real help to me with my Vic, even though it's written around a much smaller ship. The other volumes are well worth having as general reference books too. Well written, well illustrated, and relatively easy to follow. Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted May 8, 2013 Author Share #318 Posted May 8, 2013 Just a quick update... Will have photos tomorrow... Got the mizzen top mast cut and shaped, just needs to be tapered. I've also decided, that for a change of pace, I'm going to finish up the detail work on the lower masts so I can start a bit of rigging. As much fun as making sawdust is, I need a bit of a breather... Andy Shazmira and popeye the sailor 2 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted May 8, 2013 Share #319 Posted May 8, 2013 Can't help on rigging......spiders all 'tied up'. Check with you-know-who and his gnomes. Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted May 8, 2013 Author Share #320 Posted May 8, 2013 That's ok... This is one cliff I have to drive myself off of Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted May 8, 2013 Share #321 Posted May 8, 2013 Join the club . Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted May 8, 2013 Share #322 Posted May 8, 2013 This is starting to sound like Thelma and Louise, or would Salingers lemmings be a more appropriate analogy. We'll show that cliff whose boss, game face time BTW, aren't lemmings rodents. what is it with Andy and rodents... first groundhound/woodchucks, then the Somerset Wabbit Webellion.....hum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted May 8, 2013 Share #323 Posted May 8, 2013 lol - leave the Somerset wabbits out of it Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 HMHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished St-Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted May 8, 2013 Author Share #324 Posted May 8, 2013 Kevin, please ensure your wabbits are in a safe location, I don't want any harm to come to them... I'm going to hire an exterminator... There are too many vermin (marginally, the 4 legged variety) running around here... I think it is due to Sjors leaving the popcorn machine running unattended... Andy popeye the sailor and trippwj 2 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted May 8, 2013 Share #325 Posted May 8, 2013 I knew it.............popcorn is evil ............children of the corn! realworkingsailor 1 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted May 8, 2013 Author Share #326 Posted May 8, 2013 Well, maybe not entirely evil... It just attracts all sorts of.... Pests That....and the kernels get stuck in your teeth... Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted May 8, 2013 Share #327 Posted May 8, 2013 Can't help on rigging......spiders all 'tied up'. Check with you-know-who and his gnomes. Hey Augie, how do you tie up a spider ? mobbsie augie and mtaylor 2 Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted May 8, 2013 Author Share #328 Posted May 8, 2013 So the promised photos. The fore top painted. Made the bands around the mast out of some stripwood I had lying about. The the mizzen top mast, shaped, but not yet tapered. And finally the main top mast all ready to go. It was nice to break out the paint again and get some colour on things. Still got a lot of tedious detail work to go on the other two masts and on the bowsprit. Can anyone who's built this kit tell me what the six blocks under the fore and main tops are for and on which spreader arm they go? I want to at least get the eyebolts in place before the rigging starts... and the plans don't really make it clear what they are for and where exactly they go... (And I don't want to find out the hard way) Andy mobbsie, Sjors and Script 3 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted May 8, 2013 Share #329 Posted May 8, 2013 Top looks good Andy. The blocks beneath the tops are for the Leech and buntlines. The kit arrangement has them attached to eyebolts set into the fore and aft crosstrees, but in reality the strops of the blocks passed through slots in the boarding of the tops and was secured by wooden toggles. B.E. realworkingsailor 1 Quote Current Build: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-164-scale Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ finished 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ finished HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted May 8, 2013 Author Share #330 Posted May 8, 2013 Ok.. But which cross tree should get which blocks? Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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