realworkingsailor Posted May 13, 2013 Author #421 Posted May 13, 2013 Wayne, you would make a cruciverbalist elated.. Now if we can only get you folks to spell colour correctly.... Andy newbuilder101, mtaylor, gjdale and 2 others 5 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
realworkingsailor Posted May 13, 2013 Author #422 Posted May 13, 2013 So I was down to the final tapering of the main topgallant mast.. I was sanding away, when there was this sudden, unexpected flexibility in the wood... **&^% I attempted to replace the section with a toothpick, seeing as the length and diameter where close,and I tried to stain the toothpick a sort of walnut colout...... all I ended up with was a blotchy tookthpick... and a vaguely minty smelling mast.... Back to square one.... so much for this morning's work..... Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
trippwj Posted May 13, 2013 #423 Posted May 13, 2013 Dang...need a dislike button here! Vaguely minty smelling mast almost sounds like a song title for some odd reason! Sorry to see that, Andy, but have faith you will overcome and achieve a glorious colourful result (spelt it corektly this time, too!) realworkingsailor 1 Quote WayneNeither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.Epictetus
SkerryAmp Posted May 13, 2013 #424 Posted May 13, 2013 Well colour me impressed (how's that, did I do good?) The pegasus is terrific!!! Spent a good portion of the last hour catching up on the threads and really liking the looks of things. You guys and some of these magnificent boats are awesome to follow!!!! Sorry about the break though =( Am sure you will overcome and adapt!! (well, you did.. toothpick.. nice!!) -Adam Quote -Adam Current Builds Santa Maria - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB MayFlower - Model Shipways (5/32"=1') POB Blue Shadow - Mamoli Revolutionary War Brigantine. (Fict) (1:64) POB (Recommissioned as the Kara June) On The Shelf Waiting so Patiently USRC Ranger - Corel (1:50) POB 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways (1:4) POF La Nina - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB U.S Brig Syren - Model Shipways (1:64) POB Completed Builds Phantom NY Pilot Boat - Model Shipways (1:96) Solid Hull Decommissioned Builds (Time and conditions were not good to these. They have been cancelled =( ) Willie L Bennett - Model Shipways (1:32) POF USRC Harriet Lane - Model Shipways (1:128) Solid Hull
realworkingsailor Posted May 13, 2013 Author #425 Posted May 13, 2013 Thanks Adam I'm afraid the toothpick mast is destined to find itself in the scrap bin. Not right away, though. Have to have another go at making topgallant masts, but if things keeping going like this morning.... Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
Shazmira Posted May 13, 2013 #426 Posted May 13, 2013 Andy - your masts demonstrate a magnificent grasp of the idiosyncratic application of innovative and illusory technical nuances to achieve a subtle yet accurate appearance. The workmanship remains of the highest quality while your intuitive use of color and application of artistic skill brings a harmonious brilliance which perpetuates the illusion of reality. Inexorably, you continue to provide an education to those of us yearning for enlightenment. Translation - looking really good, I like the mast bands and will continue to watch and learn from your build. Pretty good for a yankee, eh? Hmmm...since we are going there, you forgot a comma between brilliance and which, and Yankee should be capitalized. Sorry, Wayne I couldn't resist And no, no, no, please do not inundate me with a plethora of scathing remarks...I am only kidding!!!! I come here to escape from grammar rules NOT enforce them. mtaylor, realworkingsailor and trippwj 3 Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version)
Shazmira Posted May 13, 2013 #427 Posted May 13, 2013 Andy, try wood conditioner on the toothpick, I am told it keeps the blotchiness away when adding stain Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version)
trippwj Posted May 13, 2013 #428 Posted May 13, 2013 Sigh...and here I thought I had so well my attempt done. Shazmira, realworkingsailor, gjdale and 1 other 4 Quote WayneNeither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.Epictetus
realworkingsailor Posted May 13, 2013 Author #429 Posted May 13, 2013 Thanks Robbyn, but I'm not too concerned yet... I've got a large enough supply of strip wood to keep me busy making mistakes for a good long while yet The minty mast will only be used as a last resort Andy augie 1 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
realworkingsailor Posted May 13, 2013 Author #430 Posted May 13, 2013 Wayne.... Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
Padeen Posted May 13, 2013 #431 Posted May 13, 2013 Mmm... sorry about the mast break, Andy. Well, good side of this: thus you can practice turning masts! (just kidding, there must have been bad words involved I guess...) realworkingsailor 1 Quote Padeen (Adeline) "When there is a will, there is a way" Completed build: Le Camaret - Constructo - static wood 1:35 (build log, gallery) Current build (very limited modelling time at the moment...): HMS Fly - Amati/Victory Models - static wood 1:64 (build log) Projected build: HMS Victory - Chris Watton's design - static wood 1:64 (when available..., no rush!)
realworkingsailor Posted May 13, 2013 Author #432 Posted May 13, 2013 (edited) Thanks, everyone Just to update, the saga of the minty mast is drawing to its inevitable conclusion. I think I have a pretty good idea as to what caused the break in the first place. Although I still suspect I may have sanded a little too vigorously, looking closely at the dowel, it would appear that the grain did a little yeowie and at the point of the break, the mast was almost cross-grained. A few inches up the dowel and the grain yeowed back to parallel... Bottom line, I managed to turn another quantity of walnut dowel into dust and successfully sanded out another spar... Yay. But if anyone needs a minty smelling mast, just let me know... Andy Edited May 13, 2013 by realworkingsailor Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
mtaylor Posted May 13, 2013 #433 Posted May 13, 2013 Minty mast? Sounds like something one would stick in a drink with an umbrella in it. You could hang onto it as it would make a nice swizzle stick for hot chocolate. As for all the sesquipedalians popping up in untoward places such as this one and running amok, I must take due pause and go find the popcorn machine and the adult beverage dispenser before the verbage re-commences. On the other hand, I won't ask for more pictures and less barffelgab like certain others who are overdue in their appearance on these august pages. <ducks><run><dives for the bunker> gjdale, realworkingsailor and Shazmira 3 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Jim Lad Posted May 13, 2013 #434 Posted May 13, 2013 Brighten your day; liven up your breath; try all new minty mast. Available from your local supermarket now!! Sorry about the mast, Andy, but at least you seem to have taught a couple of Yanks to spell 'colour'. Now, if you can all just learn to say alumin - i - um! John davyboy, mtaylor, Padeen and 1 other 4 Quote
realworkingsailor Posted May 13, 2013 Author #435 Posted May 13, 2013 John, you'd probably prefer the colourless variety... Just so you don't end up staining your teeth As for the aluminium thing.... Even here there are people who argue over the correct pronunciation... Just go with the small victories.. Getting even one of our American cousins to spell colour correctly is enough to keep me happy... On the other hand... Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
augie Posted May 13, 2013 #436 Posted May 13, 2013 On behalf of the USA, we shall sanction your usage of 'colour' and even 'centre' (in the interest of detente). However, under no circumstances shall the pronunciation 'alu-MIN-ium' be tolerated. I don't care if Hillary did use alu-MIN-ium ladders to climb Everest. The ALU-min-um Company of America carries considerable weight. Script 1 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
realworkingsailor Posted May 13, 2013 Author #437 Posted May 13, 2013 A silent "I" perhaps as a compromise? Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
augie Posted May 13, 2013 #438 Posted May 13, 2013 Where is the old 'pounding your head against a brick wall' emoticon when you need it? I'm going to go smoke a fag. mtaylor, Trussben and davyboy 3 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
realworkingsailor Posted May 13, 2013 Author #439 Posted May 13, 2013 You go and enjoy your filtered air... Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
Jim Lad Posted May 13, 2013 #440 Posted May 13, 2013 Augie, How can Alcoa carry any weight? (1) Alunimium doesn't weigh very much at all, and (2) They can't spell! OK, I'll shut up now! John gjdale and augie 2 Quote
Trussben Posted May 13, 2013 #441 Posted May 13, 2013 Augie is right - it's time to smoke a fag, look at its colour and not worry. Ben augie 1 Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
themadchemist Posted May 14, 2013 #442 Posted May 14, 2013 I almost always spell it colour, threatre, neighbour, Honour, harbour, labour, centre, litre, metre.... I think its a Pink Floyd thing, seeing someone write David Gilmore makes me wanta go mad, wait I already am... oh well madderer.... Its Gilmour... Quote
Sjors Posted May 14, 2013 #443 Posted May 14, 2013 Hi Andy, I see that your mast is broken? You blame me because I shoot the mast off on Frank his Supply. I think those cotton canon balls are strong……. Now I have from 3 ships shoot the masts off The Supply, Victory and Pegasus Yes, it makes my day! Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
Bummer! Posted May 14, 2013 #444 Posted May 14, 2013 The worst must be when they refer to Pink Floyd as "him" And when it comes to aluminium and such I usually use one of the Scandinavian languages to avoid those discussions. Quote
popeye the sailor Posted May 14, 2013 #445 Posted May 14, 2013 glad you found good resolve for the mast saga. the word colour is old english.........all through my young life, I was taught to spell it as color. bolstered by the Crayola people, and that darn peacock I used to see on TV, I've gone through my life spelling it without the 'U'. I looked in the dictionary, thinking that they might have it in there both ways....but no, it is spelt as 'color'. I forgot to mention that the Kodak people also had a hand in my up bringing.....you wouldn't think so, since they can't even spell their own name right {Kodac}. nice work with the mast though.......I'll try to refrain from using the word.......I'll use other words.....like: tint......shade.....and yes, even highlight Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch
gjdale Posted May 14, 2013 #446 Posted May 14, 2013 Shame about the mast Andy. On the other hand, it's been a most entertaining discussion on the English language!!! realworkingsailor and davyboy 2 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout
realworkingsailor Posted May 14, 2013 Author #447 Posted May 14, 2013 Well... It happened again... This time the fore topgallant mast *%#€% Just starting to taper and "snap" another morning's work down the $#!++er Ratzafratz!! Back to square one again... Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
trippwj Posted May 14, 2013 #448 Posted May 14, 2013 Dangit, Andy - maybe you need to tackle them thar minuterer masts during the evening? They seem to be somewhat off-colour and not receptive to abrasion during the morning. :( Or, perhaps, use a more ninja like approach when you sneak up on the buggers. :ph34r: gjdale, mtaylor, augie and 1 other 4 Quote WayneNeither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.Epictetus
realworkingsailor Posted May 14, 2013 Author #449 Posted May 14, 2013 I don't know really what happened... I carefully checked the grain the the wood... I'd only just started... I'm sure I was not applying too much pressure... I dunno.... Maybe the weather has something to do with it.... Time for a new strategy... Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
augie Posted May 14, 2013 #450 Posted May 14, 2013 You think a little humidity might help? Never thought of that. Takes a good while for wood to re-equilibrate at a higher moisture content....and it won't stay there very long. Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
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