Edwardkenway Posted June 25, 2020 Share #301 Posted June 25, 2020 Keep the faith EG she looks alright! She will look like lightning when "plated"😁 Old Collingwood, mtaylor, Jack12477 and 3 others 6 Quote Current builds; Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25 Providence whaleboat- 1:25 HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 Completed: HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64- finished Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - finished Non ship: SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted June 25, 2020 Author Share #302 Posted June 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Old Collingwood said: Fingers crossed bro. OC. Thank you brother, my toes are crossed also... We are half way there, the upper coat went down smooth, I just flipped it for the underside coat we will know in a few hours... Thankfully the only major spraying left is the wings, (which I think I'm going to do in Tamiya white primer then do a wet coat of future to gloss it up) I'm not going to risk this, at this point, to a rattle can of white gloss paint. And the main landing gear bay which needs masking to be sprayed aluminium.... Everything else is individually finishing parts which are all BMF, (wing tanks) or painted raw aluminium, (landing gear) before they go on. Easy Peasy compared to this... EG popeye the sailor, Jack12477, Edwardkenway and 4 others 7 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted June 26, 2020 Share #303 Posted June 26, 2020 Waiting with bated breath, EG. Ya know, you could leave it in overall black, apply national markings like the US Navy VX-4 Phantoms at China Lake, the ones with the Playboy logo. Old Collingwood, Edwardkenway, popeye the sailor and 2 others 5 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmagna Posted June 26, 2020 Share #304 Posted June 26, 2020 Ken beat me to it. When I looked at the black finish I also thought of the numerous cool Playboy and Skunk Works paint jobs 'If all else fails". I am certain that this will not be the case though and I am madly trying to find my sunglasses, (We don't need them much here in the PNW) before the big unveiling. Canute, Edwardkenway, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted June 26, 2020 Author Share #305 Posted June 26, 2020 9 hours ago, Edwardkenway said: Keep the faith EG she looks alright! She will look like lightning when "plated"😁 I've got faith brother... I just don't completely trust rattlecans.... {chuckle} I'm now in the hand finishing portion so it will be ok... Update coming... Edwardkenway, mtaylor, popeye the sailor and 1 other 4 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted June 26, 2020 Author Share #306 Posted June 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Canute said: Waiting with bated breath, EG. Ya know, you could leave it in overall black, apply national markings like the US Navy VX-4 Phantoms at China Lake, the ones with the Playboy logo. That is a thought, they do look good in black..... Canute, mtaylor, Edwardkenway and 1 other 4 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted June 26, 2020 Author Share #307 Posted June 26, 2020 11 minutes ago, lmagna said: Ken beat me to it. When I looked at the black finish I also thought of the numerous cool Playboy and Skunk Works paint jobs 'If all else fails". I am certain that this will not be the case though and I am madly trying to find my sunglasses, (We don't need them much here in the PNW) before the big unveiling. It won't be that shiny brother... besides I won't be hitting it with any spotlights..... Anyway, first metal coat is on, of course it is dark, and not there yet. It needs another sealing and metal application to be ready for showing. Pics coming in a bit.... Canute, mtaylor, popeye the sailor and 1 other 4 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted June 26, 2020 Author Share #308 Posted June 26, 2020 Last I left you all wondering if the sealing coat orange peeled.... Well I'm here to tell ya it didn't..... Very very relieved. the reason I get so worried is I had gone this far into a model once and had a sealing coat of clear over a gloss pain just ruin the whole thing.... I'm sure many of you have been there before, but when I get there I get a little anxious.... It has to be done and ruin can be the result... You learn to live with it... If that's the worst thing that ever happens to me, I'm good with it.... First coat of metal, don't expect it to be bright and shiny, there are still two steps to go yet...... Tail first.... Middle section.... Nose section..... And some overall shots.... I think the intakes came out ok, no major ripples or strange lines, not perfect mind you but more than good enough.... Now we varnish it and allow that to completely cure and we then go for the real polished effect.... More later... EG marktiedens, popeye the sailor, Edwardkenway and 4 others 7 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted June 26, 2020 Share #309 Posted June 26, 2020 "Hey brother" - I'm liking that, I so get where you are going with this it will look Stunning. OC. popeye the sailor, Edwardkenway, Jack12477 and 3 others 6 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted June 26, 2020 Author Share #310 Posted June 26, 2020 Well here is an update.... Polished metal, tell me what you think and be honest.... I'm not completely happy with it... It does look the part I think... but I would have done somethings a bit different now that I have this experience.... Tell me what you think.... EG Canute, Edwardkenway, cog and 5 others 8 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnick Posted June 26, 2020 Share #311 Posted June 26, 2020 That looks like a model plane made out of metal. So thumbs up from me 👍 Nick mtaylor, Edwardkenway, Egilman and 5 others 8 Quote Le Mirage by fnick - Corel - 1:75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack12477 Posted June 26, 2020 Share #312 Posted June 26, 2020 Me too! It's getting there ! Egilman, lmagna, popeye the sailor and 3 others 6 Quote Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardkenway Posted June 26, 2020 Share #313 Posted June 26, 2020 I got to agree with @fnickand @Jack12477 it does look like metal! Good work! can't wait to see the completed plane👍👍 Egilman, lmagna, fnick and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds; Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25 Providence whaleboat- 1:25 HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 Completed: HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64- finished Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - finished Non ship: SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted June 26, 2020 Share #314 Posted June 26, 2020 EG, it's looking good. 👌 You've buffed the paint? mtaylor, Egilman, Edwardkenway and 2 others 5 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted June 26, 2020 Share #315 Posted June 26, 2020 I agree also it looks really good, I think what might be distracting away from the fine finish is not having the rest of the plane completed - then it will really shine through and look mighty impressive. Your doing a fine job bro.👍 OC. mtaylor, Edwardkenway, lmagna and 3 others 6 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted June 26, 2020 Share #316 Posted June 26, 2020 Looks pretty good to me,too. Just curious - can you do multiple layers,or is it just 1 or 2 & done, with no further benefit of doing more? Mark popeye the sailor, mtaylor, Old Collingwood and 3 others 6 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted June 27, 2020 Author Share #317 Posted June 27, 2020 Hi everyone, Sorry I didn't get back faster, but I've been without the site for at least the last 12 hours..... just won't connect for some reason... I dunno I guess I'm not the only one either..... Anyway, I'll be posting some pics in a bit and addressing your comments my friends... EG Old Collingwood, Canute, lmagna and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted June 27, 2020 Author Share #318 Posted June 27, 2020 16 hours ago, fnick said: That looks like a model plane made out of metal. So thumbs up from me 👍 Nick 14 hours ago, Jack12477 said: Me too! It's getting there ! 14 hours ago, Edwardkenway said: I got to agree with @fnickand @Jack12477 it does look like metal! Good work! can't wait to see the completed plane👍👍 Thanks Guys... That is the point of these powders, put a metal finish on a pre-painted subject... that actually looks like metal..... It's amazing in the effect it has.... It does have some issues though and I'm still figuring out the right technique of applying and preserving it... Jack12477, Old Collingwood, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted June 27, 2020 Author Share #319 Posted June 27, 2020 13 hours ago, Canute said: EG, it's looking good. 👌 You've buffed the paint? Hi Ken, Thanks... There is no paint except the underlying base coat which has been sealed... the rest of it is metal powder rubbed into the surface in successive layers over their own sealing coats... When I first tried this on the intakes, I got it wrong and had to strip them and do it over.. The metal finish came off as a very very thin sheet of metal, thinner than leafing sheets after the paint let go.... When you apply it, your actually buffing metal into the finish... Edwardkenway, popeye the sailor, Jack12477 and 4 others 7 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted June 27, 2020 Author Share #320 Posted June 27, 2020 12 hours ago, Old Collingwood said: I agree also it looks really good, I think what might be distracting away from the fine finish is not having the rest of the plane completed - then it will really shine through and look mighty impressive. Your doing a fine job bro.👍 OC. Thanks Brother, I'm still figuring out how I want to get this one finished, I"ve put another sealing coat over the current finish and am going to buff in another coat of metal... But I think I'm going to paint off the wings first before I powder buff it out again...... It's a beautiful surface finish, but very very easily damaged also.... Finding a permanent finish sealer for it is going to be an issue here... Jack12477, Canute, mtaylor and 5 others 8 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted June 27, 2020 Author Share #321 Posted June 27, 2020 10 hours ago, marktiedens said: Looks pretty good to me,too. Just curious - can you do multiple layers,or is it just 1 or 2 & done, with no further benefit of doing more? Mark Hi Mark, it's got two on it now, I'm going to do a third but I'm going to paint off the wings first.... there is no way to handle it when the metal finish is buffed on... so right now it is in sealer so I can handle it... Now would be the time... marktiedens, popeye the sailor, lmagna and 5 others 8 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted June 27, 2020 Share #322 Posted June 27, 2020 catching up with your exploits........I must say, that is one shiny finish {so far}. looks great! you should be happy with it........if not, you can always bolt it to your car hood mtaylor, Canute, Edwardkenway and 2 others 5 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted June 27, 2020 Author Share #323 Posted June 27, 2020 Ok, another set of shots with two layers of metal... We had a bright sunny morning today so I figured that I would take it outside and see what it looks like in real natural light.... She looks the part for sure.. But, in figuring out how to seal it I screwed it up a bit, (very very easy to do, finger oils just ruin the finish even accidentally) So I've resealed it cause I can't currently handle it in BMF, it destroys the finish... As you can see, it goes back to being dark.... So the way forward is to paint off the wings, then when they are finished mask them off and redo the metal coat... all the while doing more testing on a clear finish that won't destroy the polished metal look... Otherwise this has been a huge waste of time... EG Edwardkenway, Canute, Old Collingwood and 4 others 7 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmagna Posted June 27, 2020 Share #324 Posted June 27, 2020 I agree with pretty much everyone else on the finish EG. It defiantly looks like raw polished metal. My only comment would be in the form of a question rather than a suggestion. Is there any way or do you intend to do some panel line accents so that you can break up the long uninterrupted length of polished silver? Right now it is looking a little like a Royal Naboo starship instead of the more broken and discolored surface of an operational F-104 Especially the heated skin areas just aft of the arrester hook. Like I said just a question. I wouldn't even be able to get the finish you have so far. Edwardkenway, Jack12477, popeye the sailor and 3 others 6 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted June 27, 2020 Share #325 Posted June 27, 2020 It reminds me of the old (80-90s) American Airlines polished metal scheme (used to love that scheme on MD11's. OC. Edwardkenway, Canute, Jack12477 and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted June 27, 2020 Author Share #326 Posted June 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, lmagna said: I agree with pretty much everyone else on the finish EG. It defiantly looks like raw polished metal. My only comment would be in the form of a question rather than a suggestion. Is there any way or do you intend to do some panel line accents so that you can break up the long uninterrupted length of polished silver? Right now it is looking a little like a Royal Naboo starship instead of the more broken and discolored surface of an operational F-104 Especially the heated skin areas just aft of the arrester hook. Like I said just a question. I wouldn't even be able to get the finish you have so far. Thank you Lou.... There is one pic I posted that even remotely resembles that CGI glowing spaceship and I took it deliberately to capture the sun reflection, I had a reason and in the right position that is exactly how an F-104 or any other polished bare aluminum metal airplane looked...... The rest of the pics looked darned close to the real thing... If your talking about those tiny what looks like individual panels, (they really aren't) I think that would be next to impossible to replicate. And the panels on the rear fuselage, those aren't heat discolored they are a different metal altogether.... The proof of this is in all the full color photos of these birds in Vietnam in painted camo. (including that different colored tail) you don't see the camo paint discoloring and burning off like you do on an F-100... They had a system of bypass airflow which kept the outer fuselage panels relatively cool while in flight and cool enough when on the ground so you could touch them with the engine running... they were warm yes, but not warm enough to burn..... I haven't found out yet what metal they were made of, but there were three bands, two outer narrow bands and a middle wide one. I'm pretty sure the inner band was stainless, and I believe the two outer panels are titanium..... But I haven't found out yet and not all of them had the same panel patterns... That aircraft is #13269 of the 69th fighter training squadron out of Luke AFB in '68-69 (the Fighting 69th) and is an F-104G so the tail panels wouldn't match anyway..... I have a pic of 57-0915, the sister ship to 57-0914 which is currently on display at the Lockheed Palmdale plant.... Currently in overall aircraft grey, (too expensive to keep it in bare metal) they have left the tail in it's natural finish, a steel band, a silver colored band and another steel band.... This, (along with 57-0914) was one of the two aircraft used to win the William Tell trophy by Cpt. Toffieri.... and is what I need to copy, if I can.... But to answer your question, I haven't figured that one out yet..... Old Collingwood, lmagna, Jack12477 and 4 others 7 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted June 27, 2020 Author Share #327 Posted June 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, Old Collingwood said: It reminds me of the old (80-90s) American Airlines polished metal scheme (used to love that scheme on MD11's. OC. Yeah all those polished aluminum fuselages have that whitish tinted blueish reflective look, that is what I'm aiming for, if I can preserve it... Edwardkenway, mtaylor, Old Collingwood and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDW Posted June 27, 2020 Share #328 Posted June 27, 2020 Here is a 30 second video of a partly polished F-104A Edwardkenway, mtaylor, popeye the sailor and 2 others 5 Quote Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted June 27, 2020 Author Share #329 Posted June 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, CDW said: Here is a 30 second video of a partly polished F-104A Yep freshly polished, they looked like a mirror.... That's not what I'm going for.... This is more along the lines of what I'm going for..... But I don't think I"m going to get it in any case... When they weren't freshly polished they took on the whitish haze of aluminum while retaining a bit of reflectivity.... which in bright sunlight would give it a bluish cast... But I"m pretty sure I'm not going to be able to do it.... I was going to mask off the fuselage and paint the wings before I polished it again... this is how far I got... That's lightly grabbing frisket masking tape just touched then pulled for repositioning.... took the finish right along with it.... Tore off the finish without any pressure at all.... so I"m going to have to figure another way... this showed a lot of promise to do an accurate metal finish...... But it's just too fragile to work with.......... Jack12477, Canute, popeye the sailor and 3 others 6 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDW Posted June 27, 2020 Share #330 Posted June 27, 2020 Just now, Egilman said: I was going to mask off the fuselage and paint the wings before I polished it again... this is how far I got... That's lightly grabbing frisket masking tape just touched then pulled for repositioning.... took the finish right along with it.... Tore off the finish without any pressure at all.... so I"m going to have to figure another way... this showed a lot of promise to do an accurate metal finish...... But it's just too fragile to work with.......... Wow, that's a bum deal after all that work. It's hard for me to tell from the photo how much of the finish was pulled off. All the way down to the primer? Hope you can recover the finish. By the way, the walk-around video is super good. Well worth watching. popeye the sailor, Jack12477, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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