mtaylor Posted November 14, 2015 Share #481 Posted November 14, 2015 Great jigs and setups. I'm learning a lot. I like the brass tube for turning round from square. Brilliant!!! albert and dgbot 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabrapente Posted November 15, 2015 Share #482 Posted November 15, 2015 To turn the axle for a square, there is no need to use the 4 jaw chuck. You just need to insert the square axle in a brass tubing. To be able to apply pressure without deforming the brass tubing, 2 cuts in line are enough. fantastic trick. - I have three in my jaws around and never knew the solution mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaetan Bordeleau Posted November 15, 2015 Author Share #483 Posted November 15, 2015 The last method for centering a square part is quite precise. If you put it in a lathe collet it will be even more precise. This is how it is made in jewelry. Jewelers can teach us a lot of technics. mtaylor, qwerty2008, Jeronimo and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury S Posted November 16, 2015 Share #484 Posted November 16, 2015 Thanks for the centering tips. Just what I was looking for... Maury mtaylor 1 Quote Current diversion: Anchor Hoy c 1815 - 1825 1:48 scale Recent Builds: Fair American: 18th C. Longboat: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/2284-longboat-18th-c-by-maury-modelshipways-by-chuck/ Echo Cross Section: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/513-echo-cross-section-by-maury/ Emma C. Berry http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/203-emma-c-berry-132-pof-by-maury/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaetan Bordeleau Posted December 4, 2015 Author Share #485 Posted December 4, 2015 Applied colors to the guns and turned out very well. The last time I used black oxyde I cleaned chemically the guns before and had a lot of trouble so I did use it this time and the color turned perfect. For the carriage, possibly the color could be a lighter red but I decided to go a shade darker because when blood dries it is in a darker shade. I wanted to try Alex method for mass production of pulleys. For the guns of the seond deck I need about 100, so it is not really faster. For mass production it assures the same curves in each ones. Also included a profile of the shape of the pulley. This really facilitates further operarions . The most difficult is to turn an exact profile for the 2 V curves required. On the drawing the first cutter is use on 1 and 2. The second cutter is use on 3 and 4. This part is often not done when making pulleys Last parts, reddish brown color for the pulleys and the ropes to complete the last parts needed to complete the guns of the first deck. To make a perfect pulley is not an easy task. The best ones I saw in 25 years came from A french House name S.T.A.B. All the curves were perfect and the blocks were made from boxwood. These were made by a machine, but what this machine looked like, I guess it will be a secret for still a long time. Jeronimo, gjdale, JerryGreening and 9 others 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvm27 Posted December 4, 2015 Share #486 Posted December 4, 2015 This block making machine was discussed at Western ship model conference several years ago. It was indeed a wonder.There was talk of a commercial version but I never heard anything more of it. Perhaps the AAMM has more information. mtaylor 1 Quote GregwebsiteAdmiralty Modelsmoderator Echo Cross-section buildAdmiralty Models Cross-section BuildFinished buildPegasus, 1776, cross-sectionCurrent buildSpeedwell, 1752 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaetan Bordeleau Posted December 4, 2015 Author Share #487 Posted December 4, 2015 Hi Greg, I doubt it, There was someone on the french forum who tried to make a machine partly with a lathe but it was not a success. mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted December 5, 2015 Share #488 Posted December 5, 2015 One could always model engineer Brunel's blockmaking machinery at Portsmouth and mass-produce blocks that way.... mtaylor, dvm27 and Tadeusz43 3 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaetan Bordeleau Posted December 5, 2015 Author Share #489 Posted December 5, 2015 (edited) Brunel's blockmaking machinery at Portsmouth interesting, I did not know about this. It should be interesting to know how it works. 14 different types of machines were needed to carry out all the processes to make the blocks. Edited December 5, 2015 by Gaetan Bordeleau avsjerome2003, ggrieco, cabrapente and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 5, 2015 Share #490 Posted December 5, 2015 Have you seen how Chuck makes his blocks? There's a special cutter for the mill that he uses. I'm not sure how that would work at the larger size of your ship, however. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted December 5, 2015 Share #491 Posted December 5, 2015 And Brunel's machinery still works after 200 years! It's a fascinating story about the beginnings of industrial mass-production. davyboy, mtaylor, CaptainSteve and 1 other 4 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmajor Posted December 9, 2015 Share #492 Posted December 9, 2015 Of course it was Marc Brunel, father of Isambard Kingdom, who invented this block making machine. Marc was a Frenchman, his wife English, so IK can be regarded as a fine example of Anglo/French co-operation. mtaylor and druxey 2 Quote Ian M. Current build: HMS Unicorn (1748) - Corel Kit Advice from my Grandfather to me. The only people who don't make mistakes are those who stand back and watch. The trick is not to repeat the error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaetan Bordeleau Posted December 31, 2015 Author Share #493 Posted December 31, 2015 Sequence of Gun Installation 1- gun on deck 2- ropes 3- rope coil maker 4- Compare in red; gun angle and in green; rope angle Because the nail with eye shape must be install on a deck beam, this cause strange alignment. Ideally a deck beam should be straight in line with the middle on the gun opening but sometimes other consideration have priority. 5-6 guns installed 7- Small cameras to take pictures inside. I still have to compare with a small portable camera 8- All the parts on the first deck are ready, still just to install to complete the first deck. michael mott, janos, Landrotten Highlander and 21 others 24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted December 31, 2015 Share #494 Posted December 31, 2015 And out of chaos...order! Lovely works and progress, Gaetan. Landrotten Highlander, CaptainSteve and mtaylor 3 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted January 1, 2016 Share #495 Posted January 1, 2016 Breathtaking, Gaetan. Something for me to aspire to... CaptainSteve 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albert Posted January 1, 2016 Share #496 Posted January 1, 2016 Hi Gaetan,very nice work. mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviaamator Posted January 1, 2016 Share #497 Posted January 1, 2016 Breathe, Mark, breathe deeply, there is still a lot of exciting! CaptainSteve, mtaylor, avsjerome2003 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Y Posted January 2, 2016 Share #498 Posted January 2, 2016 Your "under construction" "mess" on the deck is very charming! mtaylor, avsjerome2003 and CaptainSteve 3 Quote Current build: Beavers Prize - POF 1:48 (Hahn style) Side builds: Schooner Polotsk by Master Korabel 18th Century Longboat by MS Finished: 21ft English Pinnace by MS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaetan Bordeleau Posted January 7, 2016 Author Share #499 Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) Webcam pictures; colors very bad, point of view appropriate, depth of field interesting Edited January 7, 2016 by Gaetan Bordeleau Jeronimo, paulsutcliffe, janos and 29 others 32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaetan Bordeleau Posted January 7, 2016 Author Share #500 Posted January 7, 2016 + few other mtaylor, rtropp, avsjerome2003 and 36 others 39 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landlocked123 Posted January 8, 2016 Share #501 Posted January 8, 2016 There is nothing left to say but AMAZING!!!!!! Best, John RichardG, CaptainSteve and mtaylor 3 Quote Member: Connecticut Marine Model Society Nautical Research Guild Model Ship World "So we beat on, boats against the current, bourne back ceaselessly into the past" F. Scott Fitzgerald - The Great Gatsby "If at first you don’t succeed.......skydiving is probably not for you” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLakie Posted January 8, 2016 Share #502 Posted January 8, 2016 Really beautiful work Gaetan! The photography is mind-blowing! mtaylor, paulsutcliffe and CaptainSteve 3 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted January 8, 2016 Share #503 Posted January 8, 2016 Ah! Now I understand why the companion ladders are the S-shape they take. It now makes sense. Lovely progress. What is the box that looks like a ticket booth? mtaylor, paulsutcliffe, CaptainSteve and 3 others 6 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaetan Bordeleau Posted January 8, 2016 Author Share #504 Posted January 8, 2016 Live animals for the officers only. The ladder clears the rope but not really for the oven. Anyway that cable was only use to rise the anchor cable. Landrotten Highlander, GLakie, CaptainSteve and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted January 8, 2016 Share #505 Posted January 8, 2016 This is the real ship, right? It sure does look real..... gjdale, CaptainSteve, GLakie and 1 other 4 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmajor Posted January 8, 2016 Share #506 Posted January 8, 2016 Gaetan, I am left speechless. I don't know which of the photos is my favourite, they are all stunning. GLakie, mtaylor and gjdale 3 Quote Ian M. Current build: HMS Unicorn (1748) - Corel Kit Advice from my Grandfather to me. The only people who don't make mistakes are those who stand back and watch. The trick is not to repeat the error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Y Posted January 8, 2016 Share #507 Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) Hmm, have you thought about organising a "tours" inside the ship using that webcamera? You know, kids nowadays stream the live video of them playing games, it would be interesting to see a live stream of your camera walking around the ship! ok, just joking. It is really impressive to see one of that rare ship models, not ship model models. Now a lot of things make sense, after looking on your photos! Edited January 8, 2016 by Mike Y mtaylor, avsjerome2003, CaptainSteve and 1 other 4 Quote Current build: Beavers Prize - POF 1:48 (Hahn style) Side builds: Schooner Polotsk by Master Korabel 18th Century Longboat by MS Finished: 21ft English Pinnace by MS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaetan Bordeleau Posted January 9, 2016 Author Share #508 Posted January 9, 2016 Thank you for your comments. Now here are the results of my little test with 3 different level of camera: webcam Life cam from Microsoft, small portable Nikon Coolpix and standard camera from Canon. Best shots are from the cheapest, the webcam even if colors are not so good. One of the reason is the fact that with the webcam, the photo can be seen on a program before to take it. This is very helpful. This advantage is not present with the 2 other camera. Microsoft first 2 and Nikon the others: janos, CaptainSteve, Landrotten Highlander and 16 others 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaetan Bordeleau Posted January 9, 2016 Author Share #509 Posted January 9, 2016 ...and the rest from Canon tlevine, druxey, albert and 22 others 25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landrotten Highlander Posted January 9, 2016 Share #510 Posted January 9, 2016 What I like about the Nikon and Canon pictures is there enhanced feeling of debt - makes you forget you are looking at a model. GLakie, CaptainSteve and mtaylor 3 Quote Heghlu'meH QaQ jajvam Slainte gu mhath L.H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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