popeye the sailor Posted March 21, 2013 Share #121 Posted March 21, 2013 nice job! Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJSoane Posted March 21, 2013 Share #122 Posted March 21, 2013 Michael, Words escape me. The metal work is exquisite, and it is exceptionally helpful to see how you did it. Are you using a small jeweler's torch? Mark Quote Current build: HMS Bellona 74, ca. 1760, 1:64 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/196-hms-bellona-by-sjsoane-scale-164-1760-as-designed/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted March 21, 2013 Share #123 Posted March 21, 2013 Michael, I turn my back for a day and you've got a heap more done! Lovely work, mate! John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSiemens Posted March 21, 2013 Share #124 Posted March 21, 2013 Incredible metal work. You have some real talent. Quote Daniel We're ship in bottle builders, it's an occupational hazard. www.siemensbottlingco.blogspot.com http://www.bottledshipbuilder.com Current Builds: Bermuda Sloop Wood Krafters Pirate Ship Completed: 20 Gun Frigate Olympic 470 Bermuda Sloop Super Mini Queen Anne's Revenge German Cutter Mercury Santa Maria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overdale Posted March 21, 2013 Share #125 Posted March 21, 2013 This lovely model is very much in the tradition of those huge Victorian model sailing yachts that are now so valuable they are in glass cases and we never see them sailing. Really looking forward to seeing this finished and taking it's rightful place on the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted March 21, 2013 Author Share #126 Posted March 21, 2013 Russ, thanks, Silver soldering always feels a bit nerve wracking for me. Popeye, thanks for following along. Mark, thanks for the compliment, regarding the torch, it is an air acetylene one and the tip is a medium size, I have a smaller tip but have misplaced it. My friend the silversmith does use a torch about the same size. John, thanks, that'l teach ya for turning around! Daniel, thanks I think it all has to do with that 10,000 hour rule, I have been doing metal for a long time, and I really enjoy it. Dale, Thanks, I think that some of those models you speak of were probably an influence in my early years when I spent hours in places like the South Kensington Science museum and Greenwich. Getting her in the water is a very motivating goal. The interesting thing about working on this model is that for me it feels more balanced than some of the other projects that I have worked on over the years. There is so much scope for working on different materials and elements from wood to metal and fabric. I am also learning so much by reading all of the wonderful build logs that are shared within this wonderful community of ship and boat builders. I am actually looking forward to working on the sails, and firing up the old treadle sewing machine. Michael Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted March 21, 2013 Share #127 Posted March 21, 2013 Michael, Brass work on the chainplates is as usual excellent. What's that piece of 'stone' you use for soldering. Have seen it before on a build log somewhere ... Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted March 21, 2013 Author Share #128 Posted March 21, 2013 Hello Carl on this page scroll down to see the honeycomb soldering block. they are not that expensive and the honeycomb is great because you cat put rods in to hold and line things up. http://www.silversupplies.com/catalog/new_product/soldering_block.shtml or go to this link http://www.fdjtool.com/Category/965_1/Solder_Blocks.aspx I purchased mine at the local silver smiths supply house in Edmonton. Michael Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted March 22, 2013 Author Share #129 Posted March 22, 2013 I managed to get one of the chainplates roughly shaped today it is mostly tapered with a parallel section below the spacing block. I thought a decorative flourish works for the bottoms. The screws are 1 inch long 4x40 brass machine screw.I need to reshape the head to get rid of the slots. Most of the day was used up collecting some firewood and helping a friend move some steers and Heifers. Michael druxey, PeteB, EdT and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted March 22, 2013 Share #130 Posted March 22, 2013 Michael, You're half a farmer! Thank you for the info on the honeycomb soldering block Those chainplates look good, better than the first you made. It has a look of strength about it, what the first one missed. Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted March 22, 2013 Author Share #131 Posted March 22, 2013 Carl, the first chainplate was not actually a chainplate it was just a test on a scrap to sort out how to fold and solder the loop. This is a final shape and now just needs cleaning up a little more. Michael Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted March 22, 2013 Share #132 Posted March 22, 2013 Michael. Love the chain plate with that little detail at the bottom. You're a real craftsman but you are an artist also. Bob Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopeful Posted March 22, 2013 Share #133 Posted March 22, 2013 HI Michael, Glad you are back. Really enjoy your workmanship and detailed log. She sure is a big gal! Will enjoy following your build from here. Cheers, Hopeful aka David Quote Completed Sharpie Schooner: (Midwest) Current: Sultana (MS) Current: Phantom (MS) Next: Lady Nelson (Amati Victory) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted March 23, 2013 Author Share #134 Posted March 23, 2013 Bob thanks for those kind words. here is a link to a one man art show I had a few years ago. http://s5.photobucket.com/user/my30mm/library/artshow%20dec%2005?page=1 David Thanks for dropping by. A long time ago I was given a block of Lignum Vitea, it is tough as nails but slippery, due to the oils within the structure of the wood. First I made a dowel Then indexing along I cut the grooves for the shrouds and lower brackets. Then a different form tool to round the edges there is no sanding the finish is just from the tool. Next the blank was cut into smaller blanks with a jewelers. Then a small brass split chuck was made to hold the rough blanks The shaping tool for the face First one I am really impressed with the way this wood turns on the lathe. Now I need to sort out a jig to drill the holes. That rope does look like old hemp rope. Michael druxey, ggrieco, PeteB and 4 others 7 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted March 23, 2013 Share #135 Posted March 23, 2013 A real renaissance man! Love the art exhibit, Michael. And your progress pictures make me smile. Lovely work, as usual. Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted March 24, 2013 Share #136 Posted March 24, 2013 Just incredible. I disappear for a bit and shazam... art. Amazing deadeyes and chainplates. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hexnut Posted March 24, 2013 Share #137 Posted March 24, 2013 I agree with Druxey, great to see the gallery art as well as the art you are creating with this build. Some of your sculpture has sort of an Isamo Noguchi feel to it, love the juxtaposition of organic and precisely crafted elements.. (Sorry, i will I get warning points for pretentious artspeak in a model ship forum? ) Anyway, really inspiring stuff! Quote Regards, Bob Marvin Muscongus bay Lobster Smack -Midwest- 1:24- (1st wooden build) Gertrude L. Thebaud Mini-Mamoli 1/200 kitbash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted March 24, 2013 Share #138 Posted March 24, 2013 you are so so clever. Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 HMHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished St-Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted March 24, 2013 Author Share #139 Posted March 24, 2013 Druxey ,Mark, Bob, and Kevin, thank you so muck for those kind words. I used the same slit chuck to drill the holes in the deadeyes. by adding the hose clamp it worked to hold the deadeye. and rotated on the 1/4 inch dowel held in the mill vice. I like to use a centre drill for the wood sometimes especially since the holes were close to the curved part of the deadeye. After threading the rope through the deadeyes they look to be OK proportion wise. Now I just have to finish the rest of them. Michael Leo-zd, EdT, garyshipwright and 4 others 7 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted March 24, 2013 Share #140 Posted March 24, 2013 Michael: Very nice work. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted March 24, 2013 Share #141 Posted March 24, 2013 Michael, Sharp indeed, maybe change the colour of the rope between the deadeyes to get some contrast ... Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted March 24, 2013 Share #142 Posted March 24, 2013 Michael, The chain plate, deadeye and lanyard all look good. Will there be an easy way to release them when you want to lower the mast for transit? Bob Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted March 24, 2013 Share #143 Posted March 24, 2013 Michael, I've had a computer problem for a couple of days and am just catching up again. Great stuff as usual, mate! John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted March 24, 2013 Share #144 Posted March 24, 2013 Michael: Taking a second look, are your deadeyes aligned properly? I think they should be turned around opposite so that the middle hole of the upper deadeye is at the top and the one on the lower deadeye is at the bottom. I do not know why I did not see the first time around. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jo conrad Posted March 24, 2013 Share #145 Posted March 24, 2013 Hi Michael, if you turn these crack deadeyes through 180° ( the holes for the middle loops to be at the uppermost and lowermost corner of this triangular setup) they will work and look properly. At least that´s the way I´ve always seen them rigged. Must have to do with the stability of the wood itself. My chapeau to your work, man. Nosing into your log has become one of my daily treats. Germanus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted March 24, 2013 Share #146 Posted March 24, 2013 Russ, Nobody saw it, because we were all blinded by the bright and shiny quality of the work!!! Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted March 24, 2013 Share #147 Posted March 24, 2013 Ooh! You're right, Russ. I missed it too!!! John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted March 24, 2013 Author Share #148 Posted March 24, 2013 Carl, bob, John, Thanks for looking in. Carl you mentioned a contrast in colour, I thought there was already quite a contrast. Russ, Thanks for the heads up, These are not actually attached to anything at the moment Just looking at the overall proportions. I am going to use some black thread to make the shrouds I think I will be able to make the length just long enough without lengthening the rope walk. Michael Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted March 24, 2013 Author Share #149 Posted March 24, 2013 (edited) Russ, Germanus, Carl, John. thanks for your thoughts, and information. Here is a correction, and this is just to get a sense of what I am dealing with. Michael Edited March 24, 2013 by michael mott PeteB and EdT 2 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted March 24, 2013 Share #150 Posted March 24, 2013 Michael: THAT looks great. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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