mtaylor Posted October 17, 2016 Share #811 Posted October 17, 2016 Congratulations on a major milestone, Dave. A mind-numbing one at times, but a major one. Canute, CaptainSteve, Jack12477 and 2 others 5 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawdustDave Posted October 17, 2016 Author Share #812 Posted October 17, 2016 Thanks Pat, CapSteve, Mark.... Only a fellow tall ship builder would understand that feeling....right? Cheers mtaylor, Bill Hime, Jack12477 and 3 others 6 Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yancovitch Posted October 17, 2016 Share #813 Posted October 17, 2016 you got it there! :D ....... Omega1234, Canute, Jack12477 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega1234 Posted October 17, 2016 Share #814 Posted October 17, 2016 Hi Dave A long journey which has ended in a nice cold beer celebration! Well deserved. Cheers Patrick Jack12477, SawdustDave, CaptainSteve and 2 others 5 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelshipwright Posted October 17, 2016 Share #815 Posted October 17, 2016 Great work Dave, Bill CaptainSteve, SawdustDave, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Mediocrity will never do. You are capable of something better.” ― Gordon B. Hinckley Current build: Sovereign of the Seas 1637 My Book: Carving Ornamentation for Ship Models Website: Http://carvingbook.weebly.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawdustDave Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share #816 Posted October 18, 2016 Here's how she appears now at full height.... Now I can begin focusing on completing the standing rigging.... fnick, riverboat, Jack12477 and 16 others 19 Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelshipwright Posted October 18, 2016 Share #817 Posted October 18, 2016 She is looking magnificent Dave. Regards, Bill SawdustDave, mtaylor, Omega1234 and 1 other 4 Quote Mediocrity will never do. You are capable of something better.” ― Gordon B. Hinckley Current build: Sovereign of the Seas 1637 My Book: Carving Ornamentation for Ship Models Website: Http://carvingbook.weebly.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted October 18, 2016 Share #818 Posted October 18, 2016 Look perfect edmay, CaptainSteve, Omega1234 and 3 others 6 Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainSteve Posted October 18, 2016 Share #819 Posted October 18, 2016 Outstanding job, Sawdust !! SawdustDave, Canute, edmay and 2 others 5 Quote CaptainSteve Current Build: HM Granado Bomb Vessel (Caldercraft) My BathTub: Queen Anne Barge (Syren Ship Models) Log: Queen Anne Barge (an build log) Bounty Launch (Model Shipways) Log: Bounty Launch by CaptainSteve Apostol Felipe (OcCre) HMS Victory (Constructo) Check It Out: The Kit-Basher's Guide to The Galaxy Website: The Life & Boats of CaptainSteve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yancovitch Posted October 18, 2016 Share #820 Posted October 18, 2016 gorgeous...i still can't believe you did the whole thing!.....sheesh! CaptainSteve, Omega1234, SawdustDave and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted October 18, 2016 Share #821 Posted October 18, 2016 My advice would be to have a bottle of sctotch sitting next to you when your hands go numb. It will give you fortitude for the upcoming trial of nerves fuzzy vision and a lot of bad words not fit for tender ears or polite company. David B SawdustDave, Jack12477, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hime Posted October 18, 2016 Share #822 Posted October 18, 2016 Dave, Wow! Just beautiful ! Bill Omega1234, CaptainSteve, SawdustDave and 2 others 5 Quote Passion is Patience...and I am a carpenter in any scale. Current build; Endurance - 1:70 scale, Occre Current build; H.M.S. Surprise - 1796, 1:48 A L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnick Posted October 18, 2016 Share #823 Posted October 18, 2016 What they all said. Nick PS: stunning! Canute, Omega1234, CaptainSteve and 2 others 5 Quote Le Mirage by fnick - Corel - 1:75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted October 18, 2016 Share #824 Posted October 18, 2016 Jack12477, Canute, CaptainSteve and 3 others 6 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted October 18, 2016 Share #825 Posted October 18, 2016 That's a really nice model Dave; great work (and well worth enjoying ) cheers Pat SawdustDave, edmay, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donrobinson Posted October 19, 2016 Share #826 Posted October 19, 2016 That truly is amazing, fantastic build Omega1234, Canute, edmay and 4 others 7 Quote Completed: MS-AVS, Amati Trabaccolo, Dusek ship's boat, AL-Mayflower, Batelina - MarisStella, MarisStella-Trabakul Liburnian Novilara - MarisStella, 17th Century Battle Station, Ragusian Galley-MarisStella Current: Barque Stefano - MarisStella, On Hold: Amati Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawdustDave Posted October 19, 2016 Author Share #827 Posted October 19, 2016 Thanks all. Seems nice to finally be able to post some progress. Long way to go yet, but, as you know, getting past the shrouds and rat lines is like breaking free afterrunning in place for a long time. Cheers mtaylor, edmay, dgbot and 6 others 9 Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawdustDave Posted October 28, 2016 Author Share #828 Posted October 28, 2016 (edited) PROGRESS REPORT - All standing rigging completed. Some of the lines are much too white. I will be adding a slight tan stain to tone them down. Enough knot tying for now. Think I'll work on the anchor davits and build some anchors next. Someone do me a favor and look back at the second pic in #828 and tell me what the technical name for the "fan rigging" running from the top down to the shrouds.... starts with 4 blocks, then 8 "flyers" with 16 belaying points.Heck of a challenge to get the tensions right. Cheers Edited October 28, 2016 by SawdustDave JesseLee, mtaylor, CaptainSteve and 11 others 14 Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted October 28, 2016 Share #829 Posted October 28, 2016 Very impressive ship, Dave. I'm feasting on the details. SawdustDave, CaptainSteve, Omega1234 and 3 others 6 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbshan Posted October 28, 2016 Share #830 Posted October 28, 2016 (edited) Try 'futtock shrouds'. Or not. That might be in Anderson. I'll give it a look. From mizzen forward, correct? Edited October 28, 2016 by jbshan SawdustDave, Canute, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Joel Sanborn http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9953-lexington-by-jbshan-dlumberyard-164-from-the-seaways-practicum-by-clay-feldman/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted October 28, 2016 Share #831 Posted October 28, 2016 Wow Dave! Jesse mtaylor, Omega1234 and Canute 3 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawdustDave Posted October 28, 2016 Author Share #832 Posted October 28, 2016 (edited) Na....jbshan. I should have been more clear in my question. The rigging I am asking about runs from beneath the second top of the missen mast....four lines with single blocks.....then 8 blocks....then 16 ties onto the main mast shroud. Also ran into this type of rigging at the bow sprit mast. It's a real booger, I have never run into before. Took a few tries to work out the geometry and getting good tensions. Edited October 28, 2016 by SawdustDave Canute, CaptainSteve and Omega1234 3 Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted October 28, 2016 Share #833 Posted October 28, 2016 (edited) Dave, I have no idea what it's called either but the Wasa had it also. Seemed to be common for the era.. so there must be a name for it besides "headache" or "reason to consume large quantities of alcohol". Edit: I checked Mondfeld... They're simply called "stays". Later those blocks and lines were not used. Edited October 28, 2016 by mtaylor Omega1234, Canute, CaptainSteve and 2 others 5 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbshan Posted October 28, 2016 Share #834 Posted October 28, 2016 Don't hit me with that big stick. Mizzen topmast stay. They only lasted a short while either side of 1650. Perhaps the idea was to keep the center clear for the mizzen lateen yard. The fan of the lines would have spread the load over more of the after main shroud to which they belay. They were found on both English and European ships. JesseLee, CaptainSteve, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote Joel Sanborn http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9953-lexington-by-jbshan-dlumberyard-164-from-the-seaways-practicum-by-clay-feldman/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawdustDave Posted October 28, 2016 Author Share #835 Posted October 28, 2016 Jbshan.... You be da MAN! Although I like Mark's "Reason to drink large quantities of alcohol".... Will also accept "Reason to pull hair out in large chunks!" Hope the genius who suggested that bright idea had to walk the plank in shark infested waters. Ok by me to never run into them again. CaptainSteve, edmay, JesseLee and 3 others 6 Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted October 28, 2016 Share #836 Posted October 28, 2016 I believe they are called "crows feet" - have done a few myself. Awesome looking ship! Mark CaptainSteve, dgbot, SawdustDave and 3 others 6 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted October 28, 2016 Share #837 Posted October 28, 2016 Mark Crowsfeet were later than this and went from the front of the top to a euphroe and back up to the top, repeatedly. See the first pic/drawing attached. These run between the stays and involve blocks... bunches of blocks. You can see them on the shot of my Wasa attached. Omega1234, Canute, SawdustDave and 8 others 11 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye2sea Posted October 29, 2016 Share #838 Posted October 29, 2016 Marktiedens is right. They are indeed called crows feet and they were in use on some French and Dutch ships until very late 1600's Regards, SawdustDave, Jack12477, edmay and 4 others 7 Quote Henry Laissez le bon temps rouler ! Current Build: Le Soleil Royal Completed Build: Amerigo Vespucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted October 29, 2016 Share #839 Posted October 29, 2016 That's good to know then. I Googled and dug around and all I found on crowsfeet were one's like I posted. Just can't trust Google anymore..... Jack12477, SawdustDave, Omega1234 and 2 others 5 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawdustDave Posted October 29, 2016 Author Share #840 Posted October 29, 2016 (edited) So, now we have a name for the hair-pulling rigging.... "Crows foot" Then, I assume what I've been wrestling with would be called "Double Crow's Foot". Whatever we call it, I came to the shop this morning and, after careful study, concluded the entire bowsprit rigging had too much slack and had to be re-tensioned. This took four cups of coffee and almost as many hours.Still not perfect, but as good as it's going to get. Edited October 29, 2016 by SawdustDave michael mott, Jack12477, EdT and 10 others 13 Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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