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Those limewood planks are a dream to work with. I didn't really learn that edge bending was viable until after first planking and much of my second planking was finished. Ian
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Hi Robert, beautiful job. Are you not beginning to run into quite a bit of twist at the bow? I guess with your increasing taper you are able to edge bend. Please keep the pictures coming. Best, Ian
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Pulling up a chair. This sounds like a really nice kit and we already know we have a very good builder! Best, Ian
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Thanks Arthur, I will try that with the pictures. Ian
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Don, as I said to Rob I got it a specialty store in Calgary - Black Forest Wood Co. (I think they ship). But I swear I've seen it at Windsor. See my caveats to Rob. Hey thanks for the tip on the end grain. I wouldn't have thought of that but I will do that for the lidded ports. The lidless ones don't matter because the ends are planked over. Ian
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Ha, forget it Rob. I just finished up the port side lidless linings (still have to glue them) but I've been casting ahead about how to avoid gun port linings for as long as I can. Fiddly and boring. I don't know how I can say that after the endless planking. If anyone close by is interested, I bought the Padauk at Black Forest Wood Co. Others need to corroborate the utility of this wood because I have only used it for this effort. It does have some porosity that may not be ideal for everyone.
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Mike, I can't help you with the number of spiled planks you would need but would hazard it would be very limited. I think most people try to do a bit of edge bending to avoid all but the most obvious spiles - but that may not be a universally held view. The trouble with going to wider planks than those called for, except for those needed for spiling, is that they pose additional challenges because of the vertical hull curvature and they will severly limit edge bending (which is a moot point if you're prepared to spile everything anyway). I hope that may be of some use. Good luck, Ian
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The different woods look great Mike. Not that I like double planking but I think a pretty good argument can be made for not having to shore up the bulkheads with as many fillers where the number of bulkheads is too few. The other thing I found was that with a first plank already down I could choose a 4 butt shift pattern without having to worry about finding something solid to attach the occasional end. But these are just excuses to make me feel better for having to double plank. Your ship looks great. Best, Ian
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Thanks for the compliments Chris and for the likes everyone. This post is a sad excuse for getting out of the shipyard but at least I have finished lining the lidless gun ports on the starboard side of the upper gun deck. I milled and dimensioned the padauk for lining. I found this wood a pleasure to work with. It does not seem to be brittle and forms and keeps a nice edge. Cheers, Ian
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Robert, very nice approach with the battons. I wish I was behind you so that I could have stolen your ideas for the first planking. The lime wood was wonderful to work with - easy to plane and sand. The first two planks under the transom are very tricky but you've done a great job. Even N. Longridge (The Anatomy of Nelsons Ships) talks about that very plank(s): "The most difficult plank of all to shape and to fix is the aftermost plank of the first strake beneath the main wale. It curls rather than bends around the lower edge of the outer extremity of the wing transom...All I can say is boil that plank." Best, Ian
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Nice sweep up to the transome and bow Chris. Very precise. I'm sure you're happy with your spiling procedure, but just in case you want to try something else I had good success with tracing the lines onto transparent scotch tape (if that's what you call it - it's actually opaque) and then sticking the same piece on the wood to cut. Best, Ian
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I have the upper gun deck planked with one coat of WOP. Pictures follow, I can't figure out why they are displaying as landscape. For anyone following me the gun deck should be cut in half to fit and install. One thing I didn't do but would also recommend is planking the deck before installing the bulwarks. They just get in the way. Fit them first of course but then remove them for planking. On to milling the padauk and lining the lidless gun ports. Upper gun deck planked - excuse the pattern, it was my way of dealing with a good portion of the wood being light coloured and wanting to avoid clumps of similar coloured planks. I only have dark coloured planks left for the quarter deck. I leveled the ship, then put a self leveling laser to fit the mast sleeves. One coat of wipe-on-poly applied.
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Alright! Another Victory and another first time builder. You are off to a great start. I shall follow along. Best, Ian
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I'll let you know how it is to work with Don. Thanks for the vote of confidence. Rob: I've been thinking that I won't paint either the wales or the gun ports. One reason I'd paint the wales is if they look too odd intersecting the gun ports. But I figure I can always paint the lines later if it doesn't look good. And I remember our conversation about painting the sides in between the wales to hide imperfections around the gun ports (etc.). At the end of the day I'll just have to see how things look. Best, Ian
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Ok here's the plan. Unless someone knows something about these woods that might make me change my mind, I plan to use the dark wenge for my wales and the orange padauk for my gunport linings. The purpleheart doesn't seem to be a very good piece so I may not use that at all. Comments anyone?
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It will look great Rob. Are they the right thickness? If not I have a thickness sander you could use.
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Stopped working for me (and I think most others) a long time ago: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10686-is-notification-by-email-still-not-working/#entry322798
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Darn, time for a stealer I guess. It would probably be too much work and too fiddly but you could shave a quarter of both plank lines the rest of the way to the bow so that you'd have 3 plank lines of equal width
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Thanks for the compliment and encouragement Nick, cutting it in half worked a charm. I appreciate your dropping by. Best, Ian
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Rob, yet another solution from the innovation master! Best, Ian
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Robert, that's exactly what I meant - but you did a better job than I did! I like your solution for the jig. I might just borrow that idea. I toyed with the idea of attaching a mini level to a jig but when I think about it your approach is better because you don't have to worry about the boat itself shifting out of true - if I understand your method correctly. Keep up the brilliant work. Ian
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Just beautiful Nick. Keep the pictures coming. Best, Ian
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