rafine Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share #91 Posted August 31, 2015 Thanks so much Augie, Druxey, George and the "likes". You're so right Druxey. I'm afraid that I had a case of foolish overconfidence this time. Bob mtaylor, GLakie, augie and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury S Posted August 31, 2015 Share #92 Posted August 31, 2015 Very clean! Maury Canute and GLakie 2 Quote Current diversion: Anchor Hoy c 1815 - 1825 1:48 scale Recent Builds: Fair American: 18th C. Longboat: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/2284-longboat-18th-c-by-maury-modelshipways-by-chuck/ Echo Cross Section: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/513-echo-cross-section-by-maury/ Emma C. Berry http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/203-emma-c-berry-132-pof-by-maury/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted September 1, 2015 Author Share #93 Posted September 1, 2015 Thanks so much Maury and the "likes". Bob Canute, GLakie and mtaylor 3 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheasant Posted September 3, 2015 Share #94 Posted September 3, 2015 just starting to read about "Cheerful". Would like to do her, but like you don't have the tools to do a complete scratch build. How did you order the planking from Crown? What else did you specifically order from them? After "Essex". she looks really appealing! Cheers, Terry mtaylor and GLakie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 3, 2015 Share #95 Posted September 3, 2015 Excellent planking! GLakie 1 Quote -- Jason www.crowntimberyard.com Current Builds: US Brig Syren MS Imperial Russian Cruiser Varyag - Artwox Model Echo Cross Section: SMSNJ Group Build Completed Builds: 18th Century Longboat MS USS Olympia Encore Member: Nautical Research Guild (NRG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted September 3, 2015 Author Share #96 Posted September 3, 2015 Thanks so much Terry, Jason and the "likes. Terry, I ordered strip sizes called out in Chuck's practicum and a couple of others that I thought I might need. The quantities were rough estimates and I expect to need more of some sizes as I go along. In addition to the strips, I also ordered some sheets of various thicknesses that seemed like they would be necessary or useful. I also had some sizes of strip and sheet on hand from previous projects. I'm afraid that I didn't save the order sheet to be able to tell you exactly what I got. Bob Erik W, semorebutts, GLakie and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik W Posted September 4, 2015 Share #97 Posted September 4, 2015 Bob, Your planking is coming along great! I've been considering building the Cheerful as my second build, but have been wondering if it's feasible since I also don't own a table saw. It's nice to see that you're making it work. To follow up on Terry's question. Did you put together a custom order with Crown? Or did you just order the quantity of wood you needed by ordering the appropriate number of 10-pack packets? I'm trying to figure out how the cost of ordering the already cut strip-wood compares to ordering the block sizes and buying a Brynes table saw. I assume ordering the strip-wood is still less expensive than purchasing wood blocks and a table saw. Erik GLakie and Jack12477 2 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Cheerful - Scratch Build - 1:48Finished build: 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted September 4, 2015 Author Share #98 Posted September 4, 2015 Thanks so much Erik. It seems most of your questions have now been answered by the new offerings from Crown. It appears that it will be easier to get what you need to do Cheerful.. Bob Chuck, Canute, GLakie and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted September 5, 2015 Author Share #99 Posted September 5, 2015 Lower hull planking progresses. Chuck says that Cheerful can be planked without spiling by edge bending the planks (and has proved it beautifully on his own model). Well, so far, so good. I have now done the upper belt of the port side lower planking. While it doesn't look anywhere as good as Chuck's, I'm reasonably satisfied. Each plank was first tapered, then bent, then edge beveled where necessary for a tight fit. I followed the butt pattern shown in the plans.I must admit that it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks, and I went back to my old methods of plank bending, using water and heat, rather than the method used and shown by Chuck. In any event, it's now on to the same work on the starboard side. Bob Chuck, GuntherMT, egkb and 30 others 33 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpstateNY Posted September 5, 2015 Share #100 Posted September 5, 2015 Hi Bob, Looks awesome to me...lines on the Cheerful are lovely. She looks like she is really a fun build. Cheers, Nigel. GLakie and Canute 2 Quote Current Build Logs: H.M.S. Triton Cross Section, USF Confederacy Model Shipways Completed Log: Red Dragon Artesania Latina Gallery: Red Dragon: Artesania Latina Member: Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted September 5, 2015 Share #101 Posted September 5, 2015 Looking pretty darn good from here Bob! GLakie and Canute 2 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLakie Posted September 5, 2015 Share #102 Posted September 5, 2015 Gotta agree Bob. The planking looks fine. Canute 1 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted September 5, 2015 Share #103 Posted September 5, 2015 (edited) excellent work Bob, beautiful planking, clean and accurate... Nils Edited September 6, 2015 by Mirabell61 GLakie and Canute 2 Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted September 5, 2015 Share #104 Posted September 5, 2015 Lower hull planking progresses. Chuck says that Cheerful can be planked without spiling by edge bending the planks (and has proved it beautifully on his own model). Well, so far, so good. I have now done the upper belt of the port side lower planking. While it doesn't look anywhere as good as Chuck's, I'm reasonably satisfied. Each plank was first tapered, then bent, then edge beveled where necessary for a tight fit. I followed the butt pattern shown in the plans.I must admit that it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks, and I went back to my old methods of plank bending, using water and heat, rather than the method used and shown by Chuck. In any event, it's now on to the same work on the starboard side. Bob Whatever method is comfortable for you and easier is the way to go as long as the end result comes out nice. Your planking looks great. David B GLakie and Canute 2 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted September 5, 2015 Author Share #105 Posted September 5, 2015 Thanks so much Nigel, Grant, George, Nils and David for the nice comments and also to all of the "likes". As always your support and encouragement are appreciated. Bob Mirabell61, Jack12477 and GLakie 3 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted September 5, 2015 Share #106 Posted September 5, 2015 Looks like that's the ticket for you. I like Chuck's method. Neat work, as always. GLakie and Canute 2 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamilton Posted September 6, 2015 Share #107 Posted September 6, 2015 Hi Bob: Just caught up on your Cheerful - she's coming together very nicely. hamilton GLakie 1 Quote current builds: Corel HMS Bellona (1780); Admiralty models Echo cross-section (semi-scratch) previous builds: MS Phantom (scuttled, 2017); MS Sultana (1767); Corel Brittany Sloop (scuttled, 2022); MS Kate Cory; MS Armed Virginia Sloop (in need of a refit); Corel Flattie; Mamoli Gretel; Amati Bluenose (1921) (scuttled, 2023); AL San Francisco (destroyed by land krakens [i.e., cats]); Corel Toulonnaise (1823); MS Glad Tidings (1937) (in need of a refit); HMS Blandford (1719) from Corel HMS Greyhound; Fair Rosamund (1832) from OcCre Dos Amigos (missing in action); Amati Hannah (ship in a bottle); Mamoli America (1851); Bluenose fishing schooner (1921) (scratch); Off-Centre Sailing Skiff (scratch) under the bench: MS Emma C Barry; MS USS Constitution; MS Flying Fish; Corel Berlin; a wood supplier Colonial Schooner Hannah; Victory Models H.M.S. Fly; CAF Models HMS Granado; MS USS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted September 6, 2015 Author Share #108 Posted September 6, 2015 Thanks so much Augie, Hamilton and the "likes". Bob Canute and GLakie 2 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gahm Posted September 9, 2015 Share #109 Posted September 9, 2015 Bob, that is a very clean, precise planking job! Well done! Thomas augie, GLakie and Canute 3 Quote Current Built: Model Shipways Syren (US Brig 1803) Last Built: Anfora (kit bashed) Ictineo II (1st steam powered submarine 1864) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted September 10, 2015 Author Share #110 Posted September 10, 2015 Thanks so much Thomas. Bob GLakie 1 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted September 16, 2015 Author Share #111 Posted September 16, 2015 I've now done the upper belt of the lower planking on the starboard side. All of the same procedures were used as on the port side. As on the port side , the planking is only rough sanded at this point. Usually the second version of any work goes faster and easier, but for whatever reason that was not the case here. In any event, it's time to face up to doing the square tuck stern. Although Chuck has made it look easy on his model, it just doesn't look easy at all when I look at the necessary work ahead of me. We shall see. Bob Stuntflyer, Remcohe, KenW and 27 others 30 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian B Posted September 16, 2015 Share #112 Posted September 16, 2015 Looking great Bob , very tidy. I am exactly at the same stage of planking and about to start from the keel up.... mtaylor, GLakie, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote HMAV Bounty 'Billings' completed ⛵ HMS Cheerful - Syren-Chuck' completed Steam Pinnace 199 'Billings bashed' - completed ⚓ HMS Ledbury F30 --White Ensign -completed 😎 HMS Vanguard 'Victory models'-- completed Bismarck Amati 1/200 --underway 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLakie Posted September 16, 2015 Share #113 Posted September 16, 2015 The planking looks splendid Bob! Nice work! mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted September 16, 2015 Share #114 Posted September 16, 2015 What Dirk said..... mtaylor, Canute, Dubz and 1 other 4 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted September 16, 2015 Share #115 Posted September 16, 2015 Super work as always Bob, Nils Canute, mtaylor and GLakie 3 Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPEXEC Posted September 16, 2015 Share #116 Posted September 16, 2015 Planks look great! GLakie and mtaylor 2 Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdbradford Posted September 16, 2015 Share #117 Posted September 16, 2015 Drats, just now finding this build. I could have used your planking techniques when I did mine on the Fair American. The shape of the hull seems similar. Yours is looking awesome and I hope to glean some insight as I continue to watch your progress. Jeff GLakie, Canute, augie and 1 other 4 Quote Current Build: Model Shipways MS2015 - Fair American Kit bash Previous Build: J-Class Endeavor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted September 16, 2015 Share #118 Posted September 16, 2015 Hi Bob, I know you'll nail it, and tree nail it too! Canute, mtaylor, augie and 1 other 4 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookster Posted September 17, 2015 Share #119 Posted September 17, 2015 Hi Bob, just looking back in on your build. Looking good sir! You're moving right along... Canute, mtaylor and GLakie 3 Quote Wes Cook Current Build: USF Constitution (Model Shipways) USF Essex (Scratch build) MS Syren (build log lost, need to rebuild) Future Builds: MS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted September 17, 2015 Author Share #120 Posted September 17, 2015 Thanks so much to all for the generous comments and the "likes". Always appreciated. Dirk, Augie and Rusty: I wish that I shared your confidence about the stern work, but I'll give it my best shot. Jeff: Funny you should say that. I actually spiled the lower planking on my Fair American. I tried the edge bending here after seeing Chuck's work and talking to him. Bob GLakie, egkb, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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