Germania Nova 1911 by KeithAug - FINISHED - Scale 1:36 - replica of schooner Germania 1908

BANYAN · April 15, 2020

Nice work Keith, those protection bars should come up a treat. I used the same process but wood rather than metal batons in one skylight, then rather than chance the drilling had the batons for the protective bars photo etched (cheating I know )

cheers

Pat

Retired guy · April 15, 2020

Very nice work Keith, looking at the real boat did they ever have some nice carpentry wow must have cost a small fortune 👍

Regards

Richard

KeithAug · April 15, 2020

10 hours ago, BANYAN said:

photo etched (cheating I know )

Pat - I would have done the same had I not been impatient. Not sure the photo etch industry is open at the moment in the UK.

9 hours ago, Retired guy said:

the real boat did they ever have some nice carpentry

Richard - Yes - the woodwork was well done. I don't think I could afford a weeks hire let alone the cost of building. I think it resold recently for about 15 million euros.

Edited April 15, 2020 by KeithAug

druxey · April 15, 2020

Quite an achievement, Keith: 96 holes, no drill breakage and no evidence of the drill bit wandering either! Well done.

KeithAug · April 15, 2020

4 minutes ago, KeithAug said:

I think it resold recently for about 15 million euros.

My memory failed me - she is currently on sale for a mere 5 million euros, just popping out to see if the bank will give me a loan!!!!!

BANYAN · April 16, 2020

12 hours ago, KeithAug said:

My memory failed me - she is currently on sale for a mere 5 million euros, just popping out to see if the bank will give me a loan!!!!!

Keith, just offer to exchange your model for the real thing; same quality of workmanship

cheers

Pat

KeithAug · April 16, 2020

On 4/15/2020 at 12:51 PM, druxey said:

Keith: 96 holes, no drill breakage

Than you Druxey - I have about 100 more to do on other skylights so I have set myself a challenge.

18 hours ago, BANYAN said:

Keith, just offer to exchange your model

Pat, Unfortunately I couldn't afford the running costs - which I suspect is why Germania has been on sale twice in the last 3 years. It is used for charters and I suspect Covid 19 has put paid to that for a while. I suspect it will sell quite cheaply.

KeithAug · April 16, 2020

I spent some time working on the skylights - quite fiddly work. I like trying something new but I can be quite slow until I have worked out the technique.

You can see from the photo that the bars stand above the glass.

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Having made the skylight frames I glued the predrilled brass surrounds into the rebates with CA glue.

I then drilled the frames through the holes.

I then made a former for bending the brass bars out of a scrap of nylon. This was milled to the required size. The bars were made out of .020" diameter hard brass wire . This was wound round the former while keeping plenty of tension on it. Once wound the wire was held in place by an elastic band.

The hoops were then cut using a piercing saw.

The bars turned out identical but had to be re bent to create the 90 angle.

The bars were then inserted into the frame. In the next photo the depth to which the bars are inserted is being controlled by a piece of perspex temporarily placed above the frame. The end of the perspex can be seen as the triangular shape on the lower edge of the frame.

With all the bars for the first window inserted the bars were pressed hard against the perspex and then glued with CA from the reverse side.

I dont have very large hands but you can see the lights are about as big as my thumb nail. The yellow of the windows is because they are being protected by masking tape.

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The rear view shows the glued projections of the bars - these were cut off and filed flat.

Once finished the windows are no longer very obvious.

I will slightly rebend the bars to even up slight difference in spacing before mounting.

Edited April 16, 2020 by KeithAug

wefalck · April 16, 2020

Crisp job, as always !

It is a good idea to glue the brass frames onto the wooden frames first and then drill and insert the bars. I remember me struggling with alining the brass frames and bars before installing them on the wood ... It is often so important to do things in the 'right' sequence, which sometimes is not the obvious or the prototype one.

The bars have to be distanced from the glass, otherwise they would not protect it - anything bouncing against the bars would push them into the glass and possibly break it.

BANYAN · April 17, 2020

Nice result Keith; a good process you have developed. I'll tuck that idea away also .

cheers

Pat

Bedford · April 17, 2020

Yeah Keith, I reckon if you had the time to gather all your little manufacturing techniques together in one thread without all the other stuff it would be an invaluable practicum.

KeithAug · April 17, 2020

Thank you Eberhard, Pat and Steve - also thanks to everyone for the likes.

I finished installing the skylights and completed the small piece of flat surface. Not much explanation necessary but here are a few photos:-

I did slight adjustment to some of the bars with the point of a scribe until all the spacing looked even.

I still need to add the hinges and vents and of course will need to paint them with poly.

Bob Cleek · April 17, 2020

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Those "mystery padeyes" continue to intrigue me, although the mystery may never be solved. At the risk of "flogging the poodle," I wonder if they might be for securing the sheets of a loose-footed storm trisail? Just one more option in the "multiple choice test" where the answer "none of the above" may be the only correct one.

Beautiful work on the skylight bars! Thanks for sharing your fine workmanship.

Hubert Boillot · April 17, 2020

Wow ! Another master lesson 👍 !

Hubert

Zbip57 · April 18, 2020

On 4/17/2020 at 2:33 PM, Bob Cleek said:

Those "mystery padeyes" continue to intrigue me, although the mystery may never be solved.

Rather than tying the helmsman to the wheel in a storm, they can chain him down to those pad-eyes! :piratetongueor4: ☠️

Sceatha · April 18, 2020

Now this thread is a real lesson!

Roger Pellett · April 19, 2020

The mystery padeye, How about an attachment point for a block to sheet home a large reaching “fisherman” Staysail?

Roger

Omega1234 · April 19, 2020

Hi Keith

Before I shower you with the praise that you most definitely DESERVE...there’s a conversation that’s going on in my head. It goes something like this:

”Me: Keith...if I click my fingers twice, is it true that by some form of scientific Magic, that a small sprinkling of your skills and talent are going to rub off on me...???’ Pretty please?’

”You: Dream on Patrick, dream on”....Hehehe

Seriously though, Keith, I’m always in awe of what you do.

All the best and stay safe.

Cheers

Patrick

FriedClams · April 19, 2020

Excellent job on the skylights Keith, they look terrific. I especially like your work on the bar guarding. Repetitive, evenly spaced details like this require such precision as the eye will quickly pick out the slightest irregularity. Very nice work as always.

Gary

noel_colledge · April 19, 2020

Might be a bit obvious, but if the boat is for sale with a broker would it be worth dropping them an email to ask them directly. You might get cold shouldered but you never know..

KeithAug · April 23, 2020

Thank you Hubert and Sceatha.

On 4/19/2020 at 1:55 AM, Roger Pellett said:

The mystery padeye, How about an attachment point for a block to sheet home a large reaching “fisherman” Staysail?

Roger - a possibility - but all the other deck attachment points are of the conventional eyebolt type.

On 4/19/2020 at 10:33 AM, Omega1234 said:

All the best and stay safe.

Thank you for the complements Pat. I sometimes wonder how you manage at miniature scale so I too find your work impressive. As for staying safe its difficult not to be when confined to barracks. I think this is going to be going on for a long time.

On 4/19/2020 at 3:29 PM, FriedClams said:

Repetitive, evenly spaced details like this require such precision

Thank you Gary, modesty compels me to point out that the mill did all the hard work.

On 4/18/2020 at 8:17 PM, Zbip57 said:

Rather than tying the helmsman to the wheel in a storm, they can chain him down to those pad-eyes! ☠️

Zbip - yes others have suggested this use - although I am not altogether convinced. A short life line attached somewhere near the centre line is a better way of keeping the helmsman on board.

On 4/19/2020 at 6:59 PM, noel_colledge said:

but if the boat is for sale with a broker would it be worth dropping them an email to ask them directly

Noel - good Idea but it would spoil all the guessing fun. I might try it though.

Retired guy · April 24, 2020

You say "Thank you Gary, modesty compels me to point out that the mill did all the hard work." but we still have to steer it ☺️

Love the safety bars Keith they just look spot on 👍

Regards

Richard

Omega1234 · April 24, 2020

Thanks Keith.

As for “being confined to barracks going on for a while yet’, sadly I think you’re right. Who knows when this dreadful mess is going to end. I’m certainly missing being able to hug my son and daughter (and their respective spouses).

I just guess we have to do what we have to do.

Cheers

Patrick

KeithAug · April 27, 2020

Thank you Richard.

On 4/24/2020 at 6:44 AM, Omega1234 said:

I’m certainly missing being able to hug my son and daughter (and their respective spouses).

Yes Patrick - the same here. Thank god for video conferencing.

I am slowly working my way through the deck houses - so this is sort of a repeat of previous posts. That being the case I'll post the photos with a minimum of text.

As previously I started with a sketch scaled from the plan and augmented with measurements taken from photos. Each square on the sketch represents 0.1".

I made more window frame edge strip.

I made more brass edge strip. Another 88 0.6mm diameter holes all drilled with the same carbide drill used for the previous 96 holes - now a total of 184 holes. Is this a record?

The edge strips were installed as per previous post.

April 27, 2020

Very beautiful, absolutely nice work !

Keith Black · April 27, 2020

More great work as usual, Keith. Great seeing a posting from you.

paulsutcliffe · April 27, 2020

That's got to be a record, well done, I only managed three this afternoon before having to dig out a new drill 0.5mm

mtaylor · April 27, 2020

184 holes... all with the same bit? That would be a record. Call the Guinness Book of World Records.

KeithAug · April 28, 2020

Thank you Boris and Keith.

Mark / Paul thank you for following my exploits with my carbide drill, its an old friend and I will miss it once it has gone.

Today was wet so I got on with the protection bars.

I also needed to make the hinge straps - these are .04" wide and i decided the best way to make them was to file flats on either side of .04" brass rod. I did this by taking a piece of wood, cutting a slot in it .03" deep and then gluing the rod in it and filing off one side. Then a second slot was cut .02" deep and the rod was flipped over and re-glued before filing off the other side. Thus producing a strip of .04"x .02".