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😬 Well, I almost completely FUBARed this model. Having glued up the internal formers for the right wing (pics later), I commenced gluing up the same for the left wing. Each wing structure consists of about 16 pieces -- pretty impressive framing for a card model. As I got down to the last two parts for the left wing, something seemed off. And then I noticed it: I had inadvertently and incorrectly oriented the two main spars, causing the second wing to not be a left wing but rather a second right wing! Yikes!! Happily, the carpenter's glue had not completely set, and I was able to get the wing disassembled and re-assembled properly. Whew -- that was a close one! 😮

Chris Coyle
Greer, South Carolina

When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk.
- Tuco

Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane

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Ouch, sounds like something I would do 🤐  Glad to hear you were able to correct it!

Mike

 

Current Wooden builds:  Amati/Victory Pegasus  MS Charles W. Morgan  Euromodel La Renommèe  

 

Plastic builds:    SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48  Five Star Yaeyama 1/700  Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama  Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700  Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32  Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72  IJN Notoro 1/700  Akitsu Maru 1/700

 

Completed builds :  Caldercraft Brig Badger   Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle  Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700   Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350

F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72  Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48  Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48  Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48

Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya  Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16

 

Terminated build:  HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn)  

 

On the shelf:  Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits

 

Future potential scratch builds:  HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans)

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Hmmm, must be the air you breath through your face mask, not enough fesh air ... glad you could salvage that one. It is hard to fly with two right wings, so I'm told

Carl

"Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson
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I've done that.........can't say that I liked it either  ;)   I'm sure that dealing with paper,  it would have been much worse.......glad you caught it early enough.

 looks really good so far!

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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On 1/14/2021 at 4:39 AM, cog said:

It is hard to fly with two right wings, so I'm told

 

That is true, but no part of an aircraft is essential to landing it! 😝

Chris Coyle
Greer, South Carolina

When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk.
- Tuco

Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane

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10 minutes ago, ccoyle said:

 

That is true, but no part of an aircraft is essential to landing it! 😝

That might be true, but for the person flying it, that's not true if they intend to walk away from the landing.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Landing a plane = Plane meets ground.....

This is easy to do provided one can get it up in the first place....

All things that go up must eventually come down..... (Sir Isaac Newton)

And no nothing is essential to making that happen..... As with all planes it will eventually happen no matter what anyone does....

 

The main thing is that a man can influence how that is accomplished..... and I imagine it becomes a serious interest if the man happens to be inside when it comes down....

Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale

In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale

Completed: M8A1 HST  1930 Packard Boattail Speedster  M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer  F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C

Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433  F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale

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35 minutes ago, Egilman said:

Landing a plane = Plane meets ground.....

This is easy to do provided one can get it up in the first place....

All things that go up must eventually come down..... (Sir Isaac Newton)

And no nothing is essential to making that happen..... As with all planes it will eventually happen no matter what anyone does....

 

Yep, that was the essence of my previous post -- it might have been a little too subtle for some readers. 😉

Chris Coyle
Greer, South Carolina

When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk.
- Tuco

Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane

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  • 4 weeks later...

Finally an update. Have been working on this project slowly, interspersed with with bits of boat building. I now have White Tail's fuselage completed to the same stage as Spanish Nationalist. Remind me not to build any more airplanes with W engines -- three cylinder head covers per plane got kind of tedious. 😬

 

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Chris Coyle
Greer, South Carolina

When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk.
- Tuco

Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane

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glad to see it didn't deter you from doing a good job........they look super! ;) 

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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very nice, i found card much harder than wood to get a decent result, hence to non progress of the SD14

Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on
 

All the best

Kevin :omg:


SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS.
KEEP IT REAL!

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Thanks, Kevin. I am making slow progress on this project despite the lack of updates -- just waiting to complete some stuff before posting pics.

Chris Coyle
Greer, South Carolina

When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk.
- Tuco

Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane

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Okay, here is a little update. First of all, I just came off a two week spell of having essentially zero energy for modeling. First I had a routine outpatient procedure done, after which I immediately came down with COVID-19. Now despite having previously joked that in the event of COVID I would just enjoy time off work and build models for two weeks, the truth is that all I felt like doing was laying around and watching TV. On a positive note, I also lost most of my appetite and shed 10 pounds -- yay!! Overall my symptoms were mild, but I was hit hard by low energy and chest congestion, which made me feel constantly winded. So, all I managed to get done during this time was finish the wing, vertical stabilizer, and rudder for Spanish Nationalist.

 

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This is not the best wing I have ever done, partly due to the wing having so many skin sections, resulting in a finished wing with 14 longitudinal seams, eight in the small middle section alone. Seams are always a booger to do well and always seem to be visible, no matter how much care is used in the attempt. So 14 of them is a bit of a problem. This visual hiccup is something I have noticed in other finished builds of this particular kit, even though they were otherwise very good. For comparison, each wing skin on my aborted Curtiss Hawk build was a single piece, one left and one right, with no longitudinal seams. It makes a big difference.

 

BTW, part of this sequence was accomplished with the mysterious new klej (glue) I ordered from Poland. On a hunch, I tried it out on some scrap card stock and confirmed my suspicion that yep, it is just contact cement, albeit in a tube rather than in a bottle as we are accustomed to seeing it in this country. When used in the proper manner for contact cement, it works quite well, but it's not the "Miracle Card Modeling Glue" some of us had hoped for.

 

As an addendum to this update, I'll note that having a respiratory infection like COVID and working around very fine epoxy resin dust are probably not the best combination of activities, so needless to say I didn't get any work done on the Sassafras 12 over the last two weeks, either, so an update on that project will be delayed.

 

Cheers!

Chris Coyle
Greer, South Carolina

When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk.
- Tuco

Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane

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Nice to hear that you made it through as well as you did Chris. Hope things continue to go well with you and you get back to 100% soon.

Lou

 

Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence

Currant builds:

Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold)

Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral)

1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin)

Currant research/scratchbuild:

Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes

Non ship build log:

1/35th UH-1H Huey

 

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Same as what Lou said chris  -  speedy recovery to you mate.

 

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Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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2 hours ago, ccoyle said:

mysterious new klej (glue)not the "Miracle Card Modeling Glue" some of us had hoped for.

the search continues!

 

Wing looks great from here.

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Borodino (1:200 Card, Current Build)

Admiral Nakhimov (card 1/200)

Mazur D-350 Artillery Tractor (1:25 Card) 

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Here's hoping for a speedy recovery Chris,  the wing looks great btw

Current builds;

 Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25

Providence whaleboat- 1:25     HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 

Completed:

HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64- finished    Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - finished 

Non ship:  SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED

 

 

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Hope you continue to improve, Chris. And yeas resin dust , at the leas,t is a nuisance. Mask up.

Ken

Started: MS Bounty Longboat,

On Hold:  Heinkel USS Choctaw paper

Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1

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Glad to hear of your recovery moving along, Chris.   As the others say... mask up.  Double mask if you have to.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Covid 19...We've had that here too.
Indeed, you have no energy, don't feel like doing anything, nothing tastes good
After 5 months, beer still tastes bad to me, it even stinks sometimes ...

 

Can you imagine.. A Belgian who no longer likes drinking beer :blush:

 

I hope you soon recover completely and nice work on the plane

Regards, Patrick

 

Finished :  Soleil Royal Heller 1/100   Wasa Billing Boats   Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch)   Pelican / Golden Hind  1/45 scratch

Current build :  Mary Rose 1/50 scratch

Gallery Revell Bounty  Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch

To do Prins Willem Corel, Le Tonnant Corel, Yacht d'Oro Corel, Thermopylae Sergal 

 

Shore leave,  non ship models build logs :  

ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72    Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72   Autoblinda AB40 1/72   122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72   10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e)  Centurion Mk.1 conversion   M29 Weasel 1/72     SAM6 1/72    T26 Finland  T26 TN 1/72  Autoprotetto S37 1/72     Opel Blitz buses 1/72  Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72   Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72    

 

Si vis pacem, para bellum

 
 
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1 hour ago, Backer said:

Can you imagine.. A Belgian who no longer likes drinking beer :blush:

Oh that IS sad 😪 I hope those taste bud return to work soon!

Current builds;

 Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25

Providence whaleboat- 1:25     HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 

Completed:

HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64- finished    Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - finished 

Non ship:  SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED

 

 

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19 hours ago, Backer said:

Can you imagine.. A Belgian who no longer likes drinking beer :blush:

That is a harsh penalty that I have not heard of before. I should spread the word around here. Most people I know would take wearing masks MUCH more seriously.

Lou

 

Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence

Currant builds:

Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold)

Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral)

1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin)

Currant research/scratchbuild:

Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes

Non ship build log:

1/35th UH-1H Huey

 

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1 hour ago, lmagna said:

That is a harsh penalty that I have not heard of before. I should spread the word around here. Most people I know would take wearing masks MUCH more seriously.

Fortunately, I also like wine 👍

 

Corona :  A weird little creature, with annoying side effects.
Stay as far away from it as possible. That is the best advice I can give.

Regards, Patrick

 

Finished :  Soleil Royal Heller 1/100   Wasa Billing Boats   Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch)   Pelican / Golden Hind  1/45 scratch

Current build :  Mary Rose 1/50 scratch

Gallery Revell Bounty  Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch

To do Prins Willem Corel, Le Tonnant Corel, Yacht d'Oro Corel, Thermopylae Sergal 

 

Shore leave,  non ship models build logs :  

ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72    Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72   Autoblinda AB40 1/72   122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72   10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e)  Centurion Mk.1 conversion   M29 Weasel 1/72     SAM6 1/72    T26 Finland  T26 TN 1/72  Autoprotetto S37 1/72     Opel Blitz buses 1/72  Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72   Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72    

 

Si vis pacem, para bellum

 
 
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14 hours ago, Backer said:

Fortunately, I also like wine 👍

You AND my wife!

Lou

 

Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence

Currant builds:

Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold)

Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral)

1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin)

Currant research/scratchbuild:

Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes

Non ship build log:

1/35th UH-1H Huey

 

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On 3/21/2021 at 11:34 PM, ccoyle said:

This is not the best wing I have ever done

You could blame it on the wine, Chris. You still made quite a good job of it, if you don't mind me saying. I would look at the model, and most likely find me something simpler to build.

Carl

"Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson
Search and you might find a log ...

 

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looks good to me too Chris  ;)    hope your feeling better.

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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  • 4 weeks later...

Finally time for an update. I don't know why, but this 2-for-1 build is taking me twice as long as a regular build. 🤔😆 Anyways, I do a little here, a little there, just plodding along. The enormous parts count for the wing didn't help speed things up any. So, here's the wing for White Tail. Once again, the 7-piece set of skins for the center section defeated all of my efforts to obtain a neat result -- oh, well.

 

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Chris Coyle
Greer, South Carolina

When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk.
- Tuco

Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane

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Looks good Chris, just one question though...

 

Doesn't Nationalists wing look about a scale foot shorter than White Tails? Or is it just the perspective of the pic making it appear that way?

Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale

In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale

Completed: M8A1 HST  1930 Packard Boattail Speedster  M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer  F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C

Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433  F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale

Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter

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4 hours ago, Egilman said:

Or is it just the perspective of the pic making it appear that way?

 

Bingo! If one were a scale foot shorter than the other, I would have had much more to say about the two kits -- and not nice things, if you get my point. 😉

 

P.S. Last night I finished the horizontal and vertical stabilizer components for White Tail same as for Spanish Nationalist, so now the two planes are at the same point in their build sequences.

Chris Coyle
Greer, South Carolina

When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk.
- Tuco

Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane

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