Vought F4U-1A Corsair by Edwardkenway - FINISHED - Revell - 1:32

[Old Collingwood]

Looking real good so far  - I have never heard that trick  and to be honest I would find in uncomfortable  to use the hover on the floor while wearing womens tights......cough cough cough....😆

 

OC.

[Edwardkenway]

6 minutes ago, Old Collingwood said:

to be honest I would find in uncomfortable  to use the hover on the floor while wearing womens tights......cough cough cough....😆

I did close the blinds😅

Seriously though I think it was mentioned in Craig's Scharnhorst build log.

[lmagna]

That's right blame it on Craig! 

[Old Collingwood]

Its this site  - does something to us, turns us into  - Popcorn munching  food  o holics  -  ladies tights wearing  model makers.😆😲😛

 

OC.

[Egilman]

47 minutes ago, Old Collingwood said:

Popcorn munching  food  o holics  -  ladies tights wearing  model makers.

Well, skirts are cool, but I draw the line at wearing dresses....

[Old Collingwood]

11 minutes ago, Egilman said:

Well, skirts are cool, but I draw the line at wearing dresses....

And Bra's  even if we do get men boobs   lol.

 

OC.

[Danstream]

Hi Edwardkenway, if you have not yet considered it, I might suggest to apply drops of white glue, in successive applications, to the knobs of the PE levers to make the knobs to appear more 'rounded'. Good progress otherwise, waiting to see more.

Best regards,

Dan.

PS. Are you sure the cockpit interior was yellow and not green?

[lmagna]

15 hours ago, Old Collingwood said:

Its this site  - does something to us, turns us into  - Popcorn munching  food  o holics  -  ladies tights wearing  model makers.

 

14 hours ago, Old Collingwood said:

And Bra's  even if we do get men boobs   lol.

Speak for yourself OC. 😵

[popeye the sailor]

I mentioned it...........I've taken a woman's nylons and put it over the nozzle of the vac.   hasn't failed me yet   

[mtaylor]

This is beginning to sound like Monty Python's "The Lumberjack Song".    <Mark backs away slowly.....>

 

[Edwardkenway]

 

47 minutes ago, mtaylor said:

This is beginning to sound like Monty Python's "The Lumberjack Song".    <Mark backs away slowly.....>

 

Buttered scones for tea anyone?😅

 

4 hours ago, Danstream said:

Hi Edwardkenway, if you have not yet considered it, I might suggest to apply drops of white glue, in successive applications, to the knobs of the PE levers to make the knobs to appear more 'rounded'. Good progress otherwise, waiting to see more.

Best regards,

Dan.

PS. Are you sure the cockpit interior was yellow and not green?

Thanks Dan, I'll  do that!

I used Tamiya cockpit green but the flash went off on the 2nd photo. I'm going to give it all another coat before picking out the detail colours. Thanks for your interest and much appreciated help and advice 👍

[lmagna]

1 hour ago, mtaylor said:

"The Lumberjack Song".

I think it would have sounded better if it had been a French Canadian lumberjack accent.

53 minutes ago, Edwardkenway said:

I used Tamiya cockpit green

Is that a version of Zink Chromate Green? or just something Tamiya came up with?

 

Edited May 21, 2021 by lmagna

[Edwardkenway]

5 hours ago, lmagna said:

Is that a version of Zink Chromate Green? or just something Tamiya came up with?

I think it's Tamiyas version of the zinc chromate green, how close it is to the real colour I'm not sure!

[Egilman]

Probably late but Tamiya's Interior green is a couple of shades darker than MM's ZC green, absolutely accurate for an early birdcage F4U-1 or 1A corsair....

 

This is the basic early corrosion treatment and the colors used to about mid '43... (stolen from Large Scale Planes)

 

From what I've gathered over many years for an F4U-1 and some Early -1"A"

 

-"Salmon" ( with Indian red paste in the chromate base to achieve the shade color/tone)- on everything as a secondary primer coat in interior and exterior application. Fuselage, tail sections, outer wing panels, cowling interiors.

 

This is excluded in... 

 

- Cockpit- dull dark green/interior green derivative of a Vought/Brewster/Goodyear application and variations based on paint stocks and manufacture at the time. Excluded are from "Salmon" are the tops/ bottoms of the wing center section, parts of forward fuselage, eg: accessory section covers and sometimes tail gear wheel bay, colors explained below.

 

-"Yellow" zinc chromate primer- exterior of center wing section throughout production. At times the tail gear bay and engine accessory section depending on production block time frame saw "Yellow" zinc chromate in these areas. But later became standard on F4U-1"A" production.

 

There's more to this but these are basics.

 

Images illustrating this from the same source......

The images I believe are from an early corsair some sources say it was recovered from Lk Michigan and being restored up there and others say it is from an F4U-1 Corsair being restored in Pensacola FL...

 

Video of a Corsair being restored in California....

 

So dark ZC Green on the cockpit, ZC yellow everywhere else that will show, open engine and fuselage panels pink salmon.....

 

That's what they were....

 

Hope it helps....

[CDW]

You are doing a great job with that cockpit Edward. Very nice work. Looking forward to following along with your build of the Corsair.

 

 

[CDW]

On 5/14/2021 at 8:30 PM, Roger Pellett said:

As a kid growing up in the 1950’s in a suburb of Akron, Ohio I remember flights of these flying overhead.  Goodyear Aircraft built them in a plant at the Akron Municipal Airport.  This would have been during the Korean War.

 

Roger

 

As a kid in elementary school in the early 1960's, I had a classmate from Honduras who told me they had Corsairs in the Honduran air force. I found this very hard to believe at the time and was surprised when I grew older to learn they actually did fly them just as my friend said they did. Growing up, I never saw a Corsair in flight, only read about them and saw photos in magazines and encyclopedias. The Corsair aircraft were used by the Honduran's as late as 1969 in the Soccer Wars. 

 

[Javlin]

She is coming along quite Nice Ed! Kevin

[CDW]

When you see these guys rebuilding a Corsair as in the video posted by EG, makes you wonder how they mass produced them so quickly during WW2. Skilled workers for sure.

[mtaylor]

32 minutes ago, CDW said:

When you see these guys rebuilding a Corsair as in the video posted by EG, makes you wonder how they mass produced them so quickly during WW2. Skilled workers for sure.

Make that lots of skilled workers.  I've seen photos of aircraft assembly from WWII and it's amazing how many workers were in and around each one during the building phase.   And also during the subassembly phase.   No CNC machines or computer welding then either.

[CDW]

Just now, mtaylor said:

Make that lots of skilled workers.  I've seen photos of aircraft assembly from WWII and it's amazing how many workers were in and around each one during the building phase.   And also during the subassembly phase.   No CNC machines or computer welding then either.

 

That's what makes it so impressive. Many of those skilled workers were made as I am sure there could not have been that many seasoned workers available when the war first broke out. Very mechanically complicated processes.

 

[mtaylor]

8 minutes ago, CDW said:

 

That's what makes it so impressive. Many of those skilled workers were made as I am sure there could not have been that many seasoned workers available when the war first broke out. Very mechanically complicated processes.

 

If one looks at WWII factories... many workers were women.  I should probably say most by wars end.  Women who had never held a job before much less done anything like build an airplane.  As the war went along, more and more women entered the workforce to replace the men who either joined or were drafted into the military.  I had aunts who did this.  One joined the army and was Einstein's driver in Los Alamos whenever he was there.  The others worked in factories building things... aircraft, etc.   A pretty amazing thing and time when you think about it.  

[lmagna]

What was sad was that in all too many cases those women took those well paying jobs, (at the time) as a requirement because their husbands were away and they needed the income for their families. Some of those men never returned but the jobs went away rapidly for the women anyway after the war and even though they had proven that they were as skilled as any man in aircraft construction, all of the post war jobs went to the returning men, some whom had never driven a rivet in their lives. This was not a black and white 100% event but the numbers of women who were able to keep their jobs in the "man" trades diminished  to almost pre war levels in the late 40s and early 50s.

Edited May 26, 2021 by lmagna

[mtaylor]

17 hours ago, lmagna said:

What was sad was that in all too many cases those women took those well paying jobs, (at the time) as a requirement because their husbands were away and they needed the income for their families. Some of those men never returned but the jobs went away rapidly for the women anyway after the war and even though they had proven that they were as skilled as any man in aircraft construction, all of the post war jobs went to the returning men, some whom had never driven a rivet in their lives. This was not a black and white 100% event but the numbers of women who were able to keep their jobs in the "man" trades diminished  to almost pre war levels in the late 40s and early 50s.

 

Thanks for adding that, Lou.   Yes, seems like industry wanted to go back to the old ways.  Sad times for many of them after the war with no job and a husband or boyfriend who wasn't coming back.

[Egilman]

My father went into the army in early '42, my aunt Alice took a job with Pratt & Whitney in late '42 at their Bridgeport, CT. plant assembling aircraft engines.... she eventually moved to their Waterbury CT. plant in '44... She was trained to assemble aircraft engines.... R-2600's to start eventually R-2800's... 

 

She passed in 2006 at 82... but not before retiring in '95 as a senior engine line supervisor, (assembling turbines) Not all of them lost their jobs to returning servicemen, some were good enough to have long careers after the war....

Edited May 27, 2021 by Egilman

[knightyo]

Fascinating times.  My aunt was a WASP in WWII, and may have  flown these.  I definitely remember hearing that she flew Mustangs.  As a little kid, I was very intimidated by her.  She was as tough as nails.  

 

Alan

[Javlin]

You know Guys just a little tidbit I have noticed from the newsreels of the times when you watch the factory workers clocking in they are not heavy set!The diet back then was so much better than today's methinks a small observation.

[CDW]

On 5/27/2021 at 8:53 PM, Javlin said:

You know Guys just a little tidbit I have noticed from the newsreels of the times when you watch the factory workers clocking in they are not heavy set!The diet back then was so much better than today's methinks a small observation.

 

A lot of that skinniness was because the country was just coming out of the Great Depression. People couldn't afford food that made them fat. Soup lines and all of that. 

[popeye the sailor]

gotta also consider that there wasn't too much of the 'fast food' junk either.........home cooked meals from scratch and all that    jee........think of all the chemicals and additives we eat every day?!?!? 

[Edwardkenway]

I've not gave up on this, just not had the time or inclination to sit inside, too many distractions, I'll be back when the weather turns. 

Many thanks for watching 😉

Cheers

[Edwardkenway]

Well summer seems to be over, rain a cold weather for the last few days, so in-between planking Winchelsea I have been doing little bits on this

Gluing the hinge parts of the wings, 

and making up the landing gear.

I will be getting back to the cockpit in the next couple of weeks. 

Thanks for popping by and the likes😉

Cheers