Bitao Posted June 23, 2021 Share #1 Posted June 23, 2021 Hello everyone, it's great to be back on this forum again. The original plan was to take at least half a month off after 《YOUNG AMERICA 》and move on to the next project. But I'm used to being in the studio every day, enjoying the intense and difficult process. I've been reading all THE books I've bought these days, and I've decided to start making 《THE NAIAD FRIGATE 1797》. I also chose it because I like a boat with a complicated interior. More importantly, the whole process and Mr. Edt's drawings made me feel very precise, very human, very easy to understand. At least I don't have to spend any more time doing research. I will have a holiday soon, the hot Beijing lets me bury in the home earnest manufacture, and the determination completes it! It took me more than three months to learn and prepare before I started building my last boat, and this time it took me only four days to build it. It's still a tough ship for me, but I'm willing to share my every move with you, even if it means going through the inevitable process of failure. But I think perfection is the goal of all of us. druxey, Tony Hunt, Keith Black and 30 others 32 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted June 23, 2021 Share #2 Posted June 23, 2021 Off to a great start! aviaamator, Keith Black and mtaylor 3 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury S Posted June 24, 2021 Share #3 Posted June 24, 2021 The precision of your work is amazing. Maury Keith Black and mtaylor 2 Quote Current diversion: Anchor Hoy c 1815 - 1825 1:48 scale Recent Builds: Fair American: 18th C. Longboat: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/2284-longboat-18th-c-by-maury-modelshipways-by-chuck/ Echo Cross Section: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/513-echo-cross-section-by-maury/ Emma C. Berry http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/203-emma-c-berry-132-pof-by-maury/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitao Posted June 24, 2021 Author Share #4 Posted June 24, 2021 Do a little bit every day to make sure I'm making progress. Some words and sentences have to be looked up by translation software to be understood because the English descriptions on the pictures are difficult to read. And I'm used to using MM units, each of which needs to be converted and double checked. Slow down. Strive to achieve every detail can meet the requirements of the drawings. Thank you for your attention. marktiedens, druxey, WalrusGuy and 26 others 28 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted June 24, 2021 Share #5 Posted June 24, 2021 Lovely work. If you can buy a duodecimal scale rule online that has a 1:48 scale on it, that would save you time and headaches! Keith Black, Saburo, allanyed and 3 others 5 1 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin P. Posted June 24, 2021 Share #6 Posted June 24, 2021 Your work is beautiful and unbelievably fast. Ill be following along with interest, as I did with your Young America. mtaylor, Keith Black, billocrates and 1 other 3 1 Quote Current: US Brig SYREN - Model Shipways - Scale 1:64 Completed: HMS TRITON - Cross Section - Scale 1:48 / Gallery Secret Vessel MOREL - Master Korabel - Scale 1:36 / Gallery 18th Century Armed Longboat - Model Shipways - Scale 1:24 / Gallery HMS BOUNTY Launch - Model Shipways - Scale 1:16 / Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted June 25, 2021 Share #7 Posted June 25, 2021 Very clean joinery Bitao. I really like the contrasting wood colors that show off your workmanship! Allan Keith Black, billocrates, Bitao and 2 others 4 1 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitao Posted June 27, 2021 Author Share #8 Posted June 27, 2021 Thanks for the likes and anticipation. This part of the progress seems very slow, but in fact because the operation of a bit more grinding, I failed three times to reach the standard. Because each plane radian changes greatly, the part clamps the difficulty, simply uses the spade knife manual repair. So it seems that surface finish is not as perfect as machine finish. aviaamator, popash42, KentM and 18 others 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted June 27, 2021 Share #9 Posted June 27, 2021 Part of the beauty of a wooden ship model is the hand craftsmanship, not a machine-perfect finish! Those bollard timbers and cross-chock look just fine. RichardG, michael mott, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitao Posted June 27, 2021 Author Share #10 Posted June 27, 2021 50 minutes ago, druxey said: Part of the beauty of a wooden ship model is the hand craftsmanship, not a machine-perfect finish! Those bollard timbers and cross-chock look just fine. I agree with you very much! In fact, in the eyes of many people, as long as the machine processing out of the precise parts can make the perfect work. In fact, in my opinion, this is wrong! Because it is not difficult to accurately process any single part, it is the assembly process that is difficult. In this process, machining deviation, material deformation deviation, positioning deviation must be effectively adjusted. This process can not be replaced by any machine. Any tool can not substantially improve personal technology will only improve efficiency and accuracy, otherwise with numerical control equipment is not easy to complete any work? But what I see is that a lot of people do not understand this basic knowledge, blindly trust the role of numerical control. Of course, I don't deny that some parts can not be processed without numerical control and have better results, such as engraving parts or some outfitting parts; these parts often do not need too precise assembly position but can be performed independently, so the effect will be better. But not only do we enjoy the process of making the model, but also the ability to adjust it manually, which is the most important thing. So I do not look forward to complete CNC machining of the kit, in my view, that is just complex building blocks, the final assembly will not have accurate results. After all, the precision of the final product can adjust the scope is too limited, and deviation is inevitable for anyone! tlevine, Saburo, PerMarePer Terram and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitao Posted June 29, 2021 Author Share #11 Posted June 29, 2021 Today, I found some problems and mistakes. It doesn't affect the whole structure, but it does bother me. Also, some of the materials are not ideal. So I decided to start from scratch and throw everything away. I need to take a break and start over. This post will be deleted in three days. I'm sorry to disappoint you. BANYAN, Keith Black, Siggi52 and 8 others 9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted June 29, 2021 Share #12 Posted June 29, 2021 I'm sorry that you are not happy with your work so far. It looks to be of very high quality to my eye. What exactly is unsatisfactory? Saburo, Keith Black and mtaylor 3 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitao Posted June 29, 2021 Author Share #13 Posted June 29, 2021 27 minutes ago, druxey said: I'm sorry that you are not happy with your work so far. It looks to be of very high quality to my eye. What exactly is unsatisfactory? I'm a little OCD. It doesn't seem like much to others, but I can't forgive myself. So I don't want to leave it until the end, but it's only been 11 days, and I've worked really hard. But thinking that the process would take longer, I decided to give up and start over. Maybe I pushed too hard. It's a good time to take a few days off, get in the mood, and clean up the studio. I think every pursuit of perfection will have a bad time, to overcome their own is the greatest difficulty. Thank you for the attention and the likes, I will not give up, after a few days I will start again. KentM, Keith Black, billocrates and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvm27 Posted June 29, 2021 Share #14 Posted June 29, 2021 I have done the same Bitao. It will take you less time to reach the same point in the project and you will be happier with the results. druxey, KentM, tkay11 and 5 others 8 Quote GregwebsiteAdmiralty Modelsmoderator Echo Cross-section buildAdmiralty Models Cross-section BuildFinished buildPegasus, 1776, cross-sectionCurrent buildSpeedwell, 1752 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitao Posted June 29, 2021 Author Share #15 Posted June 29, 2021 16 minutes ago, dvm27 said: I have done the same Bitao. It will take you less time to reach the same point in the project and you will be happier with the results. Mistakes are hard to live with. It affects the mood behind it. The fastest time to complete a piece of work is at least a year, compared with more than ten days of regret, it is nothing. Maybe it's better to start over. billocrates, tkay11, KentM and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted June 29, 2021 Share #16 Posted June 29, 2021 I understand your position on this. You need to be happy and satisfied with your work, however good it may appear to others. Looking forward to your second start. Keith Black, tkay11, bruce d and 5 others 8 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitao Posted June 29, 2021 Author Share #17 Posted June 29, 2021 druxey,You're absolutely right! I never care what other people say about me, but my principles and bottom line don't change. Rather than destroying a work of art, it should be a adherence to a certain standard. billocrates, mtaylor, druxey and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTHokiEE Posted June 30, 2021 Share #18 Posted June 30, 2021 You are on a completely different plane from me (I can’t begin to see any errors). I can empathize with wanting to build it just right for yourself. I love watching your progress and also can’t wait to see the restart. Have fun! mtaylor, Keith Black, bruce d and 3 others 6 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitao Posted July 6, 2021 Author Share #19 Posted July 6, 2021 On 6/30/2021 at 9:04 AM, VTHokiEE said: You are on a completely different plane from me (I can’t begin to see any errors). I can empathize with wanting to build it just right for yourself. I love watching your progress and also can’t wait to see the restart. Have fun! Thank you for your attention. In fact, some of the biases and omissions do not affect the overall structure of the layout. Maybe I was wrong about the painting. Maybe it's the painting. But I want to start over. In particular, the position of the bow trough of the bow slightly forward. If the hull is laid, it is in the wrong place (indicated by the Red Arrow) . Some parts used cherry wood, the effect is not good, so this start again, I will use all the pear mainly. In addition in the beginning of this period of time, I also have to process some of their own design of special fixture to assist processing, in order to improve the quality and accuracy of processing. KentM, mtaylor, druxey and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitao Posted July 17, 2021 Author Share #20 Posted July 17, 2021 A New Beginning... Ondras71, wefalck, gjdale and 24 others 27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce d Posted July 17, 2021 Share #21 Posted July 17, 2021 Well done, I am very glad to see this. It looks great. Keith Black, mtaylor and Bitao 2 1 Quote 🌻 STAY SAFE A model shipwright and an amateur historian are heads & tails of the same coin current builds: HMS Berwick 1775, 1/192 scratchbuild; a Slade 74 in the Navy Board style Mediator sloop, 1/48 - an 18th century transport scratchbuild French longboat - CAF - 1/48, on hold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted July 17, 2021 Share #22 Posted July 17, 2021 Nice clean work. Don't forget the taper of the knee of the head! mtaylor, Keith Black, billocrates and 2 others 4 1 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted July 17, 2021 Share #23 Posted July 17, 2021 Beautiful work that many can only aspire to, would love to follow your progress. Saburo, billocrates, Bitao and 1 other 2 2 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Hunt Posted July 18, 2021 Share #24 Posted July 18, 2021 Fabulous. Bitao, Keith Black and billocrates 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitao Posted July 23, 2021 Author Share #25 Posted July 23, 2021 Hello. Moving on... Jeronimo, Saburo, Siggi52 and 18 others 20 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitao Posted July 26, 2021 Author Share #26 Posted July 26, 2021 Because of carelessness, I failed again! Measurements found that the width of the sides was 4 mm smaller. I compressed the goddess's ample breasts. . . That was a cheap mistake! Prepare for the third rework... KentM, Saburo, Jeronimo and 9 others 9 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlevine Posted July 26, 2021 Share #27 Posted July 26, 2021 Ouch! mtaylor, druxey, CaptnBirdseye and 1 other 3 1 Quote Toni Chairman Nautical Research Guild Member Nautical Research and Model Society Member Midwest Model Shipwrights Current Builds: NRG Rigging Project Completed Builds: Longboat - 1:48 scale HMS Atalanta-1775 - 1:48 scale Half Hull Planking Project Capstan Project Swallow 1779 - 1:48 scale Echo Cross Section Gallery: Hannah - 1:36 scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitao Posted August 2, 2021 Author Share #28 Posted August 2, 2021 This is the third time to rework, the positioning is finally right. It's not a good idea to trust your feelings with the naked eye, wasting a lot of time and energy. . . Tony Hunt, Jeronimo, Mike Y and 23 others 24 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted August 2, 2021 Share #29 Posted August 2, 2021 Beautiful work....clean and crisp and your excellent craftsmanship is on full display. Chuck Keith Black, druxey, KentM and 5 others 7 1 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted August 3, 2021 Share #30 Posted August 3, 2021 Certainly the plan under the model helps keep the frames to the correct spread or width. Keith Black and mtaylor 2 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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