Cyclone-Class Destroyer 1902 by Valeriy V - scale 1:45 - Russian Imperial Navy

[Valeriy V]

Keith, information on these ships in books and articles in Russian.
  Perhaps you can buy this book online. It contains many drawings and photographs.

[Valeriy V]

These destroyers were coal-fired, had two steam engines with a capacity of 2100 horsepower, the speed of the ships was 26 knots.

[Valeriy V]

2 hours ago, KeithAug said:

Is the plating simulated using card or something more elaborate?

I hope you are keeping safe.

Thank you Keith, I'm fine thanks to heaven.  

I don't quite understand your question, are you asking about the cladding belts?

[KeithAug]

1 hour ago, Valeriy V said:

I don't quite understand your question,

Valeriy, Te hull seems to have lines running along its length. I think this is to represent the steel plates that the hull was constructed from (presumably the plates were riveted together). My question was how did you simulate the these on the hull. 

 

Thank you for the details of the power plant - it looks like triple expansion steam engine. The stokers must have had a difficult life - very cramped space, lots of coal dust,  lots of heat. It must have been hell.

Edited May 14, 2023 by KeithAug

[Valeriy V]

Keith, that's right, the hull of the destroyer was assembled with rivets. Metal sheets were overlapped to form sheathing belts.

To depict them on the model, I use a simple method - automotive putty and masking tape.I think that this method is simpler and more reliable than copper strips glued to the hull.

[KeithAug]

4 hours ago, Valeriy V said:

automotive putty and masking tape

Thank You Valeriy

[wefalck]

I know of this technique, one puts the masking tape, where the inside strakes will be and the fills the space in between to represent the outside strakes. I have never used the technique myself, but would be concerned about the edges of these 'strakes' - they could be quite vulnerable to damage such as chipping. These automotive putty do not have a lot of cohesive strength in order to allow for easy sanding and in their intended application, there would be no exposed edges.

[Valeriy V]

Chips at the edges of the strips can be easily avoided. To do this, you need to use a sharp tool and your caution.  

 

The main drawback, after the complexity, of the copper strip method is the difference in the thermal expansion coefficients of the materials.

In this case, there is a high risk of cracking and peeling of copper strips from the hull.

[Roger Pellett]

I have not found an adhesive that would bond brass, copper, etc. to a wooden hull with any confidence that the bond would not fail over time.  Even Epoxy seems iffy.  Some joints are secure, some can be easily peeled off.  I tried 3M transfer tape recommended by the guys that build models for the Navy.  The plates easily peeled away from the hull.

 

I finally used add free paper saturated with shellac and glued to the hull with PVA glue.  It worked!

 

Roger

[Valeriy V]

To glue a huge number of sheets of copper plating on an armadillo, I use ordinary hot melt adhesive.  

[Roger Pellett]

Thanks, Valeriy.  I have no experience using hot melt adhesive.  I’ll have to give it a try.

 

Roger

[Valeriy V]

16 hours ago, Roger Pellett said:

Thanks, Valeriy.  I have no experience using hot melt adhesive.  I’ll have to give it a try.

 

Roger

Roger!
There are some subtleties in this method. But I'd better tell about them after you try it. For better understanding.  

[mikegr]

On 3/6/2023 at 9:58 PM, Hsae said:

Looks like these boats were pretty wet …

They look like a hybrid between torpedo boat and destroyer

[Valeriy V]

I continue to build a destroyer.

   Parts made:
  - steam pipe
- chimney with casing
- casing of the ship's boiler room
- steam whistle

[Valeriy V]

Chimney details with casing and steam whistle

[Valeriy V]

All the details are collected together.

[Valeriy V]

Details of both chimneys are assembled.

[Valeriy V]

Fitting installation of pipes on the destroyer's hull.

[Mirabell61]

On 3/6/2023 at 7:30 AM, Valeriy V said:

Work on the body of the model has begun ...

Great diagonal Karweel plaking

 

Nils

[druxey]

Your artistry in metal never ceases to amaze!

[Ras Ambrioso]

Fantastic. I see you found the scale match LOL

[Ian_Grant]

2 hours ago, Ras Ambrioso said:

Fantastic. I see you found the scale match LOL

You mean this one??

 

[Valeriy V]

On 3/6/2023 at 9:19 PM, wefalck said:

One day I would love to see some images of your workshop

 

I remember your request.

Now you can take pictures as a destroyer has appeared for the entourage.   

[Keith Black]

 Hard to believe that mighty things come from that little space. Thank you for posting photos of your shop, Valeriy. 

[FlyingFish]

17 hours ago, Ian_Grant said:

You mean this one??

Wow, your hand is tiny, Ian.

[Valeriy V]

12 hours ago, Keith Black said:

 Hard to believe that mighty things come from that little space. Thank you for posting photos of your shop, Valeriy. 

Yes, this is a small space, parts are produced here, and their assembly takes place in the next room and it is a little larger. But even on this table, models with a length of up to two meters are quite successfully placed.

[wefalck]

Wish I had that much space ...

[FriedClams]

Wonderful brass work as always, Valeriy!  Small, but efficient looking shop. Nice.

 

Gary

[Valeriy V]

During World War I, Cyclone-class destroyers served as minesweepers. After the 1917 revolution, three destroyers ended up in the possession of Finland and were included in the Navy in 1919 under the names C1, C2 and C3.

[Valeriy V]

These three ships did not last long and in the winter of 1919, after being compressed by ice, they sank in the Bjerkezund Strait.