mobbsie Posted December 16, 2015 Share #1381 Posted December 16, 2015 Hi Mark, Lovely planking mate and the colour variation looks great. With regard to the use of steel wool, I'm with Bob on this, you could also put a good wax finish on, the hull colours would really stand out. If you do go with the steel wool mate, wear a crash hat, (protection from the frying pan). Be Good mobbsie Canute, Omega1234, src and 4 others 7 Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted December 16, 2015 Share #1382 Posted December 16, 2015 Steel wool can cause problems with finish as well. Either use bronze wool or run a magnet over everything after using steel. You'll be surprised at how many particles will be picked up! CaptainSteve, mtaylor, Piet and 7 others 10 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted December 16, 2015 Share #1383 Posted December 16, 2015 Mark, That looks great! Regarding steel wool, Druxy beat me to it. Try a maroon scrubby pad instead of steel wool that way if you do put a second coat over it you dont run the risk of the steel rusting and causing stains. You can get various grades of pads at Rockler. Home depot caries the maroon, you may have other options where you live. Sam Canute, Omega1234, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted December 16, 2015 Share #1384 Posted December 16, 2015 late to the party Mark............congratz on such a wonderful job! the hull looks great! the wood may have been more porous in those areas......I wouldn't sweat over it.........unless you inspected all of the wood, it would be hard to get a uniform color. now you need to get the other side looking the same, then you can raise that glass. I'll be raising one for ya! sweet look'in finish! Piet, Canute, GLakie and 2 others 5 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyz Posted December 16, 2015 Share #1385 Posted December 16, 2015 (edited) Defy the admiral? Whoa, that's bold! If it was my hull I would probably not use steel wool because of the fine metal particulate it leaves behind, but rather go for the 3M Scotch-Brite hand pads. The maroon colored #7447 is a silicon carbide general purpose pad that has the grit equivalence of 360-400. This is the steel wool equivalent to #00-#000. If you can find it you can follow that up with the light gray colored #7448 ultra fine pad with a grit of 800-1000. It also is a silicon carbide abrassive, the equivalance to #0000 steel wool. Tom Edited December 16, 2015 by wyzwyk GLakie, Omega1234, Piet and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbug Posted December 16, 2015 Share #1386 Posted December 16, 2015 Beautiful stuff mark! That's really, really nice looking work. Something to envy for sure for those of us who struggle mightily with hull planking. And of course - particularly given my recent post regarding furling or unfurling the Santa Maria's main sail - I'm predisposed toward agreeing with the Admiral. :-) - Bug mtaylor, Piet, GLakie and 3 others 6 Quote - Bug Current Build: HMS Pegasus - Vanguard Models Completed Builds - Augie's USF Confederacy AL Santa Maria - Heavily Bashed AL San Juan Nepomuceno AL Swift Pilot Boat Cris Craft AL Stagecoach Ship Blog - The Lehman Shipyard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventynet Posted December 16, 2015 Share #1387 Posted December 16, 2015 Truly remarkable job Mark, especially considering it's a single planking job! Wow! Let us know what you end up buffing it with please. Best, Ian Canute, GLakie, Piet and 2 others 5 Quote Builds in progress - Speedwell - by Syren Ship Model Company Builds completed - Hayling Hoy - by David Antscherl - Naval Cutter Cheerful - by Syren Ship Model Company - Cape Cod Catboat - by Bluejacket - Gokstad - by Dusek - Ship's Boat - by Dusek - Brazzera - by MarisStella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 16, 2015 Author Share #1388 Posted December 16, 2015 Mark, I don't know if you've written something about this. But I don't have any idea, wha do you do the whole work of a POF model (or a Hahn styled frameing) and plank both sides of the hull? The planking job looks really nice Christian, As with all things.. Admiralty orders. "All ships are to be finished. Not left looking like they need more work." And it looks like this one will be getting sails as she's been pushing on that. So......... orders is orders. I've got a pile of different grades of Scotch-Brite that I forgot I had. Bought them for a different project. Hmm... we'll see. Once I get the other side done... It's actually looking less glossy today so maybe it wasn't fully cured when I took the pictures. popeye the sailor, toms10, GLakie and 9 others 12 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg the peg leg sailor Posted December 16, 2015 Share #1389 Posted December 16, 2015 Hi Mark, Lovely planking mate and the colour variation looks great. With regard to the use of steel wool, I'm with Bob on this, you could also put a good wax finish on, the hull colours would really stand out. If you do go with the steel wool mate, wear a crash hat, (protection from the frying pan). Be Good mobbsie And ear muffs Quote "Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! " Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landlocked123 Posted December 17, 2015 Share #1390 Posted December 17, 2015 DITTO ON GRANT!!!! SWEET! John mtaylor, Piet, GLakie and 2 others 5 Quote Member: Connecticut Marine Model Society Nautical Research Guild Model Ship World "So we beat on, boats against the current, bourne back ceaselessly into the past" F. Scott Fitzgerald - The Great Gatsby "If at first you don’t succeed.......skydiving is probably not for you” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piet Posted December 17, 2015 Share #1391 Posted December 17, 2015 Looking just beautiful Mark. Love the colors. Cheers, Omega1234, Canute, Seventynet and 2 others 5 Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnobiumPunctatum Posted December 17, 2015 Share #1392 Posted December 17, 2015 (edited) You're absolut right, Mark. Order is order. I only got the order to finish my sloop, before I start another project. So I am very happy with my admirality Edited December 17, 2015 by AnobiumPunctatum Piet, mtaylor, Seventynet and 4 others 7 Quote Regards Christian Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36 On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777 Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48 "Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etcher Posted December 17, 2015 Share #1393 Posted December 17, 2015 Wow, reading through builds like this I'm not sure whether to be inspired or just give up! Great work. GLakie, WackoWolf, Salty Sea Dog and 6 others 9 Quote Darren Current Builds: Berlin Tram by OcCre Lady Eleanor by Vanguard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted December 17, 2015 Share #1394 Posted December 17, 2015 Wow, reading through builds like this I'm not sure whether to be inspired or just give up! Great work. Inspired,of course! Omega1234, GLakie, Seventynet and 4 others 7 Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAnderson Posted December 17, 2015 Share #1395 Posted December 17, 2015 I'm new to this one Mark. What a beautiful planking job. Seeing work like this is intimidating at best. I could only dream of doing something like this some day. Paul Omega1234, mtaylor, Piet and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 18, 2015 Author Share #1396 Posted December 18, 2015 Thanks for the "likes" and the comments. Yes.. Admiral's orders are not to be questioned. Then to, part of my Christmas present arrived today, and that re-enforced the following of orders. Happy day is coming... the rest of the present is due in tomorrow. Wow, reading through builds like this I'm not sure whether to be inspired or just give up! Great work. Please don't give up. I find a bit of patience, a bit of stubbornness, and a willingness to scrap something and start over goes a long way. This really is my first scratch build of a full ship. The Triton was a good learning experience and confidence builder. I'm not perfect but trying.... For the record, this is my second shot at this ship. The first was sent to the breakers yard due to stupidity and not thinking on my part. MarkBeautiful planking!One of your comments seem to have gone unnoticed. I have the same problem now and can't explain it. My favourite solution was using sawdust & glue for patching up gaps. Strangely it worked for a while but now I end up with black spots rather than the planking colour. No idea why. I tried it with white PVA and also with yellow Triton. I've got a hunch that this phenomen is somehow in connection with the wood itself. On Rattlesnake the planking material was river birch and it was OK. Now for Le Canot I planked in pear and I end up with black spots. Strange.Janos Janos, That's interesting you had problems with pear also. Very strange. I'm new to this one Mark. What a beautiful planking job. Seeing work like this is intimidating at best. I could only dream of doing something like this some day. Paul Thanks Paul.. See my answer to Etcher. avsjerome2003, Canute, Jack12477 and 6 others 9 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega1234 Posted December 18, 2015 Share #1397 Posted December 18, 2015 (edited) Hi Mark You've got me intrigued now! Did you get to peek a look at your pressie? Can you divulge? On the other hand, being an ex-Marine, you wouldn't have peeked, would you? Cheers Patrick Edited December 18, 2015 by Omega1234 Canute, mtaylor, Jack12477 and 3 others 6 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg the peg leg sailor Posted December 18, 2015 Share #1398 Posted December 18, 2015 Hi Mark You've got me intrigued now! Did you get to peek a look at your preside? Can you divulge? On the other hand, being an ex-Marine, you wouldn't have peeked, would you? Cheers Patrick I'm intrigued as well.A good soldier knows when to surrender or to fight! Greg Quote "Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! " Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 18, 2015 Author Share #1399 Posted December 18, 2015 (edited) Hi Mark You've got me intrigued now! Did you get to peek a look at your pressie? Can you divulge? On the other hand, being an ex-Marine, you wouldn't have peeked, would you? Cheers Patrick Sure, I can divulge... but not take pictures or "try it out". I was allowed to inspect the contents and then it has to be put away for the next 7 days and a wake-up. A new laser tube for the laser cutter. It will boost power from roughly 32W steady state to 45W steady state. I'm hoping to cut 3/16" boxwood in one pass at a good rate of speed with minimal V-ing of the kerf. If that works... I'll give 1/4" boxwood a shot. I felt (and so did some others) that I needed more power. Anyway, the extension for the cabinet is arriving tomorrow. Need to modify the case as the old tube is 850mm and the new tube 1000mm long.. and a bit bigger in diameter. Hmmm....If I got a tube big enough, I wonder if I could build a Death Star? I'm intrigued as well. A good soldier knows when to surrender or to fight! Greg Surrender? No.. attack in a different direction... err.. hmm.... Admiral... yep... surrender. Edited December 18, 2015 by mtaylor src, Rustyj, toms10 and 11 others 14 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyz Posted December 18, 2015 Share #1400 Posted December 18, 2015 Death star? Mark, don't shoot yourself in the foot. Tom Omega1234, Canute, CaptainSteve and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landlocked123 Posted December 20, 2015 Share #1401 Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) I'm still thinking sharks with laser beams!!!! After all, you have an extra now. Dr. Evil Edited December 20, 2015 by Landlocked123 dgbot, GLakie, Piet and 6 others 9 Quote Member: Connecticut Marine Model Society Nautical Research Guild Model Ship World "So we beat on, boats against the current, bourne back ceaselessly into the past" F. Scott Fitzgerald - The Great Gatsby "If at first you don’t succeed.......skydiving is probably not for you” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share #1402 Posted December 22, 2015 Thanks for the "likes" and comments. That magic milestone... All planked, sanded, and one coat wipe-on poly. I do have one small area that needs some work as it has a stain. I don't think it's blood... Lessons learned at this point.. many. 1) I should go a bit wider than the 1/8" width even if it's out of scale. Just for the eye appeal and the ease of working with the wood. 2) Use a "harder" wood, like boxwood. Pear deforms and dings easily. 3) Definitely not pear for gap-filling. Some areas went black, other areas look good. Strange stuff. I played with some scrap and it did the same thing. Either that or not use the poly and sawdust in the gap filling and live with the glue and sawdust. 4) A bit more care in the framing and fairing. I found some areas just weren't proper and had to fiddle with the frames before continuing. Now to attend to the stern... which should be fun area and not as tedious. Bobstrake, GuntherMT, Erebus and Terror and 45 others 48 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete48 Posted December 22, 2015 Share #1403 Posted December 22, 2015 That Looks Fantastic Mark, Beautiful work, I am looking forward to seeing the Transom come together. Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year Best Regards, Pete WackoWolf, GLakie, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbug Posted December 22, 2015 Share #1404 Posted December 22, 2015 Although difficult to work with - it sure is beautiful looking wood. -Bug Piet, Canute, GLakie and 3 others 6 Quote - Bug Current Build: HMS Pegasus - Vanguard Models Completed Builds - Augie's USF Confederacy AL Santa Maria - Heavily Bashed AL San Juan Nepomuceno AL Swift Pilot Boat Cris Craft AL Stagecoach Ship Blog - The Lehman Shipyard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLakie Posted December 22, 2015 Share #1405 Posted December 22, 2015 The Wipe-On Poly gave the planking a real nice finish Mark. Your diligence has paid off admirably.! Omega1234, mtaylor, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted December 22, 2015 Share #1406 Posted December 22, 2015 Looks great Mark. Bob GLakie, mtaylor, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega1234 Posted December 22, 2015 Share #1407 Posted December 22, 2015 Nice work, Mark. If I was you, I'd be eagerly cutting the hull free from the base board...but then again, I'm sometimes not the most patient guy. All the best to you and Janet for Christmas and the New Year. Happy health to Janet as well! Cheers Patrick src, WackoWolf, GLakie and 3 others 6 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burroak Posted December 22, 2015 Share #1408 Posted December 22, 2015 Mark your ship is absolutely amazing. The hull is perfect. I can only dream of that type of skill. Greg H. Omega1234, Piet, GLakie and 2 others 5 Quote GREG H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyz Posted December 22, 2015 Share #1409 Posted December 22, 2015 Sweet looking Mark! The pear wood may have given you some problems but the wipe-on poly sure looks nice. Getting the hull planked, sanded, and finished is a really nice present to yourself this Christmas. This should psych you up big time for what you want to do this coming year. I want to wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas, and I hope 2016 is all you hope it will be. GLakie, WackoWolf, avsjerome2003 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WackoWolf Posted December 22, 2015 Share #1410 Posted December 22, 2015 Mark, Time has pay you in a big way. She looks Beautiful, you have something to be proud of. May the Holidays be the best for you and the family. Canute, GLakie, Piet and 3 others 6 Quote Wacko Joe Go MSW :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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