No Idea Posted June 1, 2019 Share #301 Posted June 1, 2019 Byrnes table saw for sale in the UK and he's selling a thickness sander too. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Byrnes-Model-Machines-Table-Saw-Accessories/264344805686?hash=item3d8c2da136:g:UfAAAOSww4Zc8a3S Don't say I don't look out for you guys :) druxey, Matle, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted June 1, 2019 Share #302 Posted June 1, 2019 Thanks mate mtaylor 1 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeaidanh Posted June 3, 2019 Share #303 Posted June 3, 2019 I love mine so much that I want a second that always cross cuts and the other is the ripper! druxey and mtaylor 2 Quote Previous Build: LA gun deck cross section. Previous Build: Lancia Armata. Panart 1:16 Previous Build: HMS Pickle. Jotika Build. HMS Triton cross section 1:32. Shelved awaiting improved skills: Chuck"s Cheerful. Current build. Tender Avos. HM cutter Alert. : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsutcliffe Posted June 3, 2019 Share #304 Posted June 3, 2019 On 6/1/2019 at 2:08 PM, No Idea said: Byrnes table saw for sale in the UK and he's selling a thickness sander too Nicely priced as well, not, although the thicknesser is a bit more reasonable Quote The clerk of the cheque's yacht of sheerness Current build HMS Sirius (1797) 1:48 scratch POF from NMM plans HMS Winchelsea by chuck 1:48 Cutter cheerful by chuck 1:48 Previous builds- Elidir - Thames steam barge Cutty Sark-Billings boats Wasa - billings boats Among others 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Idea Posted June 4, 2019 Share #305 Posted June 4, 2019 7 hours ago, paulsutcliffe said: Nicely priced as well, not, although the thicknesser is a bit more reasonable For the UK market it’s actually a very good price. If you bought it brand new, once you’ve paid taxes and shipping that saw would be about £950 mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelF Posted June 5, 2019 Share #306 Posted June 5, 2019 Many thanks to No Idea for posting the link to the ebay auction. I was the only bidder and am now the proud owner of a Byrnes saw for the starting price of £450. Or at least I will be when I pick it up - just a 140 mile round trip sometime in the next few days. My old Preac saw still works, but it's no longer in production and I find it very hard to source replacement blades in the UK. I've been hankering (lusting!) after a Byrnes for ages but have always been put off by the shipping and import costs. They were horrendous for the Preac many years ago, and I hate to think what they would be now, so I was delighted to see one listed locally. I can't wait to get working with it, and am going to start by re-reading all the tips and advice on the forum. There were a couple of bidders for the thickness/sander which went for £280.01 - slightly more than the opening price but still reasonable. That auction ended an hour or so before the saw auction, so I was anticipating at least as much interest for the latter and was bracing myself and my wallet for a potential bidding war . So I was pleasantly surprised when I put in the only offer. Perhaps all my fellow UK modellers already have Byrnes saws! Off to bed now, very happy 😁 Derek Altduck, druxey, Bill Tuttle and 5 others 8 Quote Cheers, Derek Current build: Duchess of Kingston On hold: HMS Winchelsea Previous builds: HMS Speedy, English Pinnace, Royal Yacht Caroline (gallery), Victory Cross-section (gallery), US Clipper Albatros, Red Dragon (years ago!) On the stocks: 18th Century Longboat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billt Posted June 5, 2019 Share #307 Posted June 5, 2019 Congratulations Derek! You won't be disappointed. I've only had mine a few months but love it. It's a great little saw. Bill DelF and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Cleek Posted June 6, 2019 Share #308 Posted June 6, 2019 3 hours ago, DelF said: My old Preac saw still works, but it's no longer in production and I find it very hard to source replacement blades in the UK. If you aren't already aware, Jim Byrnes will sell you a custom-sized arbor adaptor for any size saw blade you have, so if you have problems sourcing Imperial-sized arbors in the metric UK, your problem will be easily solved. mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted June 6, 2019 Share #309 Posted June 6, 2019 Derek, This might be of value then: Byrnes Saw Operation.pdf The source of blades for this guide recently shut down, but there are others out there. It has lots of great tips. DelF 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Idea Posted June 7, 2019 Share #310 Posted June 7, 2019 This has probably been asked a million times before - but are there any blade suppliers in the UK? If so what do you buy exactly? Ta Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelF Posted June 7, 2019 Share #311 Posted June 7, 2019 Hi Mark I haven't sourced any for the Byrnes saw yet. I've had a hard time finding any blades for the Preac - the main problem being their small diameter. I managed to get one from Amazon recently (https://www.amazon.co.uk/0-5mm-Thickness-Circular-Slitting-Blade/dp/B009XPCT02/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Sourcingmap+blade&qid=1559927411&rnid=1642204031&s=diy&sr=1-1). I've also had success with arceurotrade.co.uk - just search for slitting saws. Hope this helps, and thanks again for highlighting the eBay listing! Derek Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Cheers, Derek Current build: Duchess of Kingston On hold: HMS Winchelsea Previous builds: HMS Speedy, English Pinnace, Royal Yacht Caroline (gallery), Victory Cross-section (gallery), US Clipper Albatros, Red Dragon (years ago!) On the stocks: 18th Century Longboat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Cleek Posted June 7, 2019 Share #312 Posted June 7, 2019 I expect that Jim Byrnes will continue to offer blades on his website. I expect they wouldn't be expensive to send to England. They're flat and fit in an envelope, so I suppose they could be air-mailed without any problem. DelF, No Idea and Canute 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelF Posted June 9, 2019 Share #313 Posted June 9, 2019 I picked up the saw yesterday (carefully - it really does weigh around 30 pounds!). I must say it has lived up to my expectations so far, both in terms of build quality and performance. I tried a few tests cuts when I got it home and was very impressed with the accuracy. For example, when I rip cut a strip from a board, the difference in the width of the two ends of the strip was no more than 0.01mm/.0004". I also tested the micrometer stop. The saw is fitted with the metric version, so I measured my strip, moved the fence 0.1mm cut again and remeasured. My digital micrometer reckoned I'd taken 0.09mm off. One hundredth of a millimeter difference is probably within the reading error using a micrometer and in any case I can live with that level of accuracy for model making. Today I used the saw to make a display base out of a solid oak plank. The machine had no problem at all ripping and cross cutting through 18mm/0.71" hardwood. On 6/7/2019 at 7:08 PM, Bob Cleek said: I expect that Jim Byrnes will continue to offer blades on his website. I expect they wouldn't be expensive to send to England. They're flat and fit in an envelope, so I suppose they could be air-mailed without any problem. I think I'll follow Bob's suggestion. The saw came with two carbide blades which are absolutely fine, but with 0.055"/1.4mm kerf they turn a lot of expensive timber into sawdust. Also, although the finish on the cut surfaces is perfectly acceptable, it is not quite the mirror finish I get with the Preac, so I'll probably get a couple of thinner slitting blades. Either that, or I'll pick up Bob's other suggestion and get some arbor adaptors from Jim Byrnes as I believe I can get suitable blades in the UK. Bottom line though - this is definitely my new favorite toy tool. Derek Canute, Ryland Craze, dvm27 and 4 others 7 Quote Cheers, Derek Current build: Duchess of Kingston On hold: HMS Winchelsea Previous builds: HMS Speedy, English Pinnace, Royal Yacht Caroline (gallery), Victory Cross-section (gallery), US Clipper Albatros, Red Dragon (years ago!) On the stocks: 18th Century Longboat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted June 9, 2019 Share #314 Posted June 9, 2019 Wecome to the Byrnes family Derek! It's when you have one, you can really appreciate it's worth druxey, Canute, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matle Posted September 28, 2019 Share #315 Posted September 28, 2019 On 6/1/2019 at 3:08 PM, No Idea said: Byrnes table saw for sale in the UK and he's selling a thickness sander too. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Byrnes-Model-Machines-Table-Saw-Accessories/264344805686?hash=item3d8c2da136:g:UfAAAOSww4Zc8a3S Don't say I don't look out for you guys Oh, wish I’d seen that earlier - that is one opportunity not occuring often Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Idea Posted September 28, 2019 Share #316 Posted September 28, 2019 55 minutes ago, Matle said: Oh, wish I’d seen that earlier - that is one opportunity not occuring often If I see any more I'll post it on here I've been cutting some planks on mine today and every time I use it I just get a huge smile on my face. Its so accurate and a pleasure to use. I wish Jim would build a spindle sander - I'd buy it in a heart beat! mtaylor, Ryland Craze, Matle and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbleHead Posted October 12, 2019 Share #317 Posted October 12, 2019 Yes I would have to agree with the tilting arbor by Byrnes. I have a tilting table but have never used it. I am now looking for a tilting arbor saw just for ease of operation. mtaylor, billt and Canute 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billt Posted October 14, 2019 Share #318 Posted October 14, 2019 Yes a tilting arbor would make it perfect. I haven't needed that often because I have other saws that can do that. But it would be nice if the Byrnes saw would tilt without adding another table. mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worldway Posted November 23, 2019 Share #319 Posted November 23, 2019 So another Derek has made the plunge. Today I purchased the saw with all the accessories. It's my Christmas gift, the admiral is happy because now she doesn't have to shop for me. Delivery cost to Canada is reasonable, $86 US for standard UPS or $165 US for expedited service. Considering the price of the saw, shipping is a small percentage of the total cost. I chose the standard method. I was told it would be 10 days to 2 weeks to ship. I'm sure the shipping will take a week or two. Hopefully it will be under the tree on Christmas day. I thought long and hard about purchasing the saw. A lot of the posts on this thread wondered if it would collect dust and i had the same thoughts. But I'm sure I can use it for a lot more than just ship modelling. For example, I have the plans for the Veritas Traditional Tool Chest which I bought several years ago. I think this saw would be perfect in helping me build the tool chest. Byrnes was very helpful with my order. They realized I made a mistake with the order then suggested I add to the order with the spare parts bag. For $8 it is a lot cheaper getting it now then trying to buy it later. I' m excited and can't wait for Christmas day. DelF, JohnLea, cog and 9 others 12 Quote Derek If you want to build a ship, don't drum up the men to gather wood, divide the work and give orders. Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea Antoine de Saint Exupery Current Builds Bluenose - Model Shipways - 1:64 Scale Fair American - Model Shipways - 1:48 Scale HMS Winchelsea 1764 - Group Build On Deck Guns of History Naval Smoothbore Deck Gun - 1:24 Scale Finished Builds Mare Nostrum - Artesania Latina - 1:35 Scale Guns of History Carronade - Model Shipways - 1:24 Scale Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted November 23, 2019 Share #320 Posted November 23, 2019 Congratulations Derek - prepare to fall in love! I recall when I bought mine, shipping to Australia added 50% to the price. Now, I couldn’t even tell you how much it actually cost me - only how much I love it. As the old adage goes, quality is remembered long after price is forgotten. cog, mtaylor, Nirvana and 2 others 5 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvana Posted November 23, 2019 Share #321 Posted November 23, 2019 Two machines of Byrnes I really like to get is the table saw and sander. I have the thickness sander of his and I love it. One thing when it comes to Byrnes machines, is how quiet they are. Quote Quote Quote Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelF Posted November 23, 2019 Share #322 Posted November 23, 2019 Well done Derek - you won’t regret it! Derek cog, Canute, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Cheers, Derek Current build: Duchess of Kingston On hold: HMS Winchelsea Previous builds: HMS Speedy, English Pinnace, Royal Yacht Caroline (gallery), Victory Cross-section (gallery), US Clipper Albatros, Red Dragon (years ago!) On the stocks: 18th Century Longboat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted November 23, 2019 Share #323 Posted November 23, 2019 You'll be working with a smile on your face. Good choice. Canute 1 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billt Posted November 23, 2019 Share #324 Posted November 23, 2019 Congratulations Derek, you won't be disappointed. It's a great saw. druxey, mtaylor, Nirvana and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Cleek Posted November 23, 2019 Share #325 Posted November 23, 2019 Another modeler rescued from the Dark Side and brought into the fold! mtaylor, Canute and druxey 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted November 23, 2019 Share #326 Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Bob Cleek said: Another modeler rescued from the Dark Side and brought into the fold! I'd sooner say the opposite! A creative spirit unleashed Edited November 23, 2019 by cog druxey, Canute, Bob Cleek and 1 other 4 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Idea Posted November 23, 2019 Share #327 Posted November 23, 2019 Yep I use my table saw every week and I use my thickness sander about the same too. Derek you will not be disappointed Canute, mtaylor, Bob Cleek and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torrens Posted November 25, 2019 Share #328 Posted November 25, 2019 On 9/30/2014 at 2:12 PM, AntonyUK said: Hi Boyd. We can all live without luxury things.. But it's the best out there.. So much so I am considering in investing in a Thickness sander from Jim. I use a much larger saw to rip my timber into manageable bits then into the Byrnes saw to finished size. Most of the time I need only very light sanding as the finish is soooo good. Regards Antony. Hi Anthony As the Bryne saw is made in the USA, is there a problem with the difference in voltage between the USA and the UK? If so, how did you resolve it? mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Michael member of United States Naval Institute Royal United Services Institute Society for Nautical Research Navy Records Society author of The Art of Nautical lllustration - A Visual Tribute to the Classic Marine Painters, 1991, 2001 & 2002 United States Coast Guard barque Eagle, 2013 (Blurb Photobook) former assistant editor of the quarterly journal and annual Model Shipwright and Shipwright 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Cleek Posted November 25, 2019 Share #329 Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Torrens said: Hi Anthony As the Bryne saw is made in the USA, is there a problem with the difference in voltage between the USA and the UK? If so, how did you resolve it? They're available with 110 VAC or 220 VAC motors, as the buyer wishes. There are also available step-down and step-up transformers to convert one voltage to another. Edited November 25, 2019 by Bob Cleek mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathead Posted November 25, 2019 Share #330 Posted November 25, 2019 So I am very strongly considering making this my Christmas purchase as well. However, I find the thought of reading back through a 300+ comment thread impossibly daunting. Does anyone care to provide a reasonably brief summary of the most important points to consider when buying one, especially with reference to all the possible add-ons? I have a budget and cannot just splurge on "all the goodies". I am primarily interested in sawing my own planks and other parts (i.e., frames) as I have a large stock of maple as well as cherry and other fruitwoods harvested on my property that I'd love to start using instead of shipping wood across the country. I also like the idea of making thin pieces for use in other wood artistry. Thanks for any feedback you all want to provide. RichardG, Canute, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Eric Current builds: scratchbuilt Missouri River steamboat Peerless (1893); 1:1 scale timber-framed outdoor kitchen Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1853 Missouri River steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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