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BANYAN

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  1. The current level of completion has seen the figurehead and channels added. The decorations have been largely completed and the figurehead was built up and refined by club member Geoff Martin (who also designed and built the bulwarks jig, and completed most of the hull construction) - this figurehead is only just over 18 mm total. Another member (Geoff Peters completed the copper plates and I have added the channels and about to embark on adding the remain deck and hull fittings. I have also opened the holes for the Tube Scuttles which were a combination airing port and light port designed by Oliver Lang. This brings us up to date with her current status. cheers Pat
  2. The bullwarks, roughtree timbers etc at this scale are very thin, and also as this ship was constructed without full frames (no projected timbers), we needed to develop a jig which is shown in the photos below. The jig screwed to the deck (in locations that will be covered later) and expands outwards. The bulwarks were then built up against this jig which supported them during construction. The jig will be fitted again soon to allow us to cut out the various ports and access gates. We decided to experiment with the deck as the scale size of the 6 inch wide deck planks would have proved to be a nightmare in planking. The deck arrangements were drawn up in CAD and then printed on timber veneer which was then glued down to a false deck. This has proven to be a reasonable approach for this model (cost and time); although, we have yet to deal with the glue joint . cheers Pat
  3. As mentioned in the earlier posts, we have been moving ahead with the build and the hull has been completed, including the copper plating. The screw Built by Chris Ramsey) to the Maudslay design, does rotate but we did not bother with the feathering at this scale. This design of the feathering screw did not require the whole screw to be raised, but was rather locked in the feathered position when under sail. cheers Pat
  4. Thanks for looking in and comments Keith and Greg. Keith - more like 13 (most while I was still working) Greg: see http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14596-hmcss-victoria-1855-172-by-banyan/#entry453812 cheers Pat
  5. Research I do not intend to post copies online of the plans I have developed of this ship as there are some unscrupulous people out there whom turn them around for their own profits (as has been evidenced recently). However, I will provide a background discussion on the research effort that has gone into this ship. I think I have tracked down almost all known drawings, lithographs, plans, photos etc of HMCSS Victoria and it is a great pity the Government, Navy or other Australian authority have not kept any significant records etc. It is almost like they washed their hands of the Victorian Colonial Navy L The above image is an out of copyright lithograph of a painting of the Victoria by J Taylor c1860. The image was obtained from (held by) the State Library of Victoria Identifier: H6503 There is only one painting that I am aware of that I do not have a copy of. I have managed to purchase copies of all known photographs, wood cut etching (London Illustrated News) and lithographs etc. The owner of the only known surviving/existing plan of the ship, a single sheet drawn by Oliver W Lang (ships designer) which includes the side profile, sheer and waterlines. There is also a separate drawing of the ship's boilers, both of which have been kindly provided by the owner to let us take a copy in return for permanently displaying the model in his Museum (HMAS Castlemaine) when it is completed. The only other known set of plans have disappeared from the Victorian Records Office (and no, the set discussed earlier are not those). I have also assembled every newspaper article, journal articles, magazine articles I can find, including a copy of the Geoffrey Ingleton collection of related documents. The services of a researcher in the UK were also engaged, whom has tracked down and provided copies of a lot of the correspondence between the various parties, authorities and family members etc (including Lang, the ship's agent, ship-build overseer (Commander Lockyer, RN), the Colonial Office and the Victorian Parliamentary Records office). The rest of the supporting information has been derived from searching through contemporary articles, journals, records, reports, publications etc to get the details of the listed equipment and fittings stated in the Contract. I have also had some very useful help from a historian and author whom has done a lot of research on the history of the ship, but not the ship itself. See: http://users.vic.chariot.net.au/~ianmac/vicship.htm All of the information collected will be donated to interested not-for-profit parties on completion, probably either the Australian War Memorial or Navy Heritage Centre, but as the Naval heritage/history people do not seem to rate this ship it will probably be the earlier.
  6. Background HMCSS Victoria was the first major defence vessel ordered and built by the Victorian Government, with her order placed in 1854. The ship was ordered to provide defence for the Colony during the ‘gold rush’ era as there was a perceived threat and fear that the riches of the Colony may prove very inviting to foreign interests; especially Russia. The ship was designed by Oliver William Lang, naval architect and then the master-shipwright of Pembroke Dockyard, as a one-off design. He designed the ship for no cost to Victoria on the proviso that he be given a free-hand in her design. The ship was built by Young, Son and Magnay at Limehouse Docks, on the Thames in London in six months in the latter part of 1855. HMCSS Victoria was delivered in January 1856 and arrived in Victoria 31 May 1856. The ship had classic lines and was often remarked in the Press and by the public as a beautiful ship. She was fitted out lavishly in mahogany with fittings the equivalent of a luxury yacht. The main engines, boilers and marine engineering equipment were built by George Rennie and Co. at the adjacent Blackfriars Engineering; and, the innovative feathering screw designed and supplied by Maudsley. According to her Build Certificate (27 July 1855) she is described as: ‘…round stern, carvel built steam-vessel 'Victoria' – that the said vessel has a half woman figure head, is flush decked and has a lower deck before and abaft the engine room , with platforms below the same – that the length from the fore-part of the stern aloft to the after part of the stern post is one hundred and sixty six feet – the broadest part above or below the main-wales is twenty seven feet, the depth of the engine room from the upper side of the floor to the upper side of the beam is fourteen feet nine inches; and the burthen is five hundred and eighty tons (OM).’ For further background on this ship, see the following site: http://www.cerberus.com.au/hmcs_victoria.html The following link provides a summary of the life of her Captain, William Henry NORMAN, who commanded her throughout her service life. http://www.cerberus.com.au/muster_dadabik/index.php?table_name=crew&function=details&where_field=ID&where_value=90
  7. Hi folks, the new project. I am not the sole builder of this model which is a club project for the Ship Modelling Society of Victoria. I am coordinating the build, doing the research, drawing the plans and assisting in the build process. I am providing this log as she is an interesting ship and I thought members may be interested. While designed as a warship along the lines of the contemporary Arrow and Vigilant Classes of Gun Dispatch vessels, she was operated in various roles, with only a very short period of active duty as a commissioned ship during the Maori Wars in New Zealand. Her Majesty’s Colonial Screw Sloop (HMCSS) Victoria was built for the defence of the Colony of Victoria during the gold rush era. The above image is a copy of a purchased image from The Illustrated London News which shows her during her Builders Trials. Additionally, as much of the hull construction has already been completed, I will provide a summary of this part of the build only.
  8. Nice work Elijah, she is looking great. I like the slipway you have mounted he on. cheers Pat
  9. Coming along very nicely Sjors - I can't get over how much ornamentation these ships had. cheers Pat
  10. Thanks for looking in and congratulatory comments Russ, BE and John. Russ - thanks, it was your early support in ther battle station build that got me into 'bashing' the kit so much. BE - thanks for your help with the pennants also mate. John - I really appreciate your assistance in the detail photos of the replica rigging you took for me . ...and, yep, I would much rather scratch the case cheers Pat
  11. Well folks, "enough is enough" - I still have two boats to make (in very slow time) but they will be added to the display case as separate items and not onboard the model. So, although there are a few more items I would like to add, and a few fixes i would still like to make, I think I will call it quits and declare this one finished The following photos show her in her final fit; but, I must apologise for the quality of the one in her case. I will take better shots of her in her home when I can control the reflections a little better The photos will be in three posts. cheers Pat
  12. Greg, paravanes are large and bulky, and depending on where stowed could be difficult to manoeuvre around the ship unless there was a nearby derrick / crane that had a long enough reach to lift the paravanes and put them outboard (for lowering into the sea). I would have expected these to be closer to the quarterdeck or bow? Paravanes were mainly used for mine sweeping, or in a secondary role as a splash target for gunnery practice, depending on how they were configured. The configuration would make them either tow directly astern or swing out onto the quarters astern (minsweeping etc). See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paravane_(weapon) This article talks of them being towed from the bow, but in my time I only saw them used from aft - the bow m,akes sense for minesweeping purposes though. The magazines may have been for ready use ammo for the smaller guns? cheers Pat
  13. Hi Greg, unusaual for paravanes to be stored inside a turret? Some nice detail there. cheers Pat
  14. She's looking mighty fine Russ, can't wait to see her with her sails. cheers Pat
  15. Thanks you so much John and Mark; appreciate your comments. John - next job is to complete the HMCSS Victoria which I have been researching and assisting the build. Its' back in my hands now for final fit-out with hull and coppering completed. I will start a dedicated log soon. i will also be making a start on my HMAS Vampire (3D printed project) early next year. Mark - final photos this week I hope cheers Pat
  16. Hi Alex, That deck treatment is a relatively new one (late 70's/early 80s (at least in the RAN - may have been a tad earlier in USN/RN) and is a specialised coating that not only serves as a metal deck preservative but also a non-slip surface for the deck. Back in the early 70s the RAN was still using deck-tread (sandpaper strips/patches glued to a painted deck surface) but in the late 70s started using a new treatment which had sand mixed into it; this then developed into this treatment which in the RAN was called DEVRON (a brand name I think) - I don't know where it was initially developed or by which company. It is applied direct onto a specially prepared deck, and if not abused will last several years. It is a fairly thick coating and very hard on the knees/skin. Some ships have this applied to cover the whole deck surface while other ships had it covering the majority of the deck but the last few inches near screens/bulkheads and the side were normal paint. I am not well versed in paint application techniques for models, but I would think that applying a slightly thicker paint and then using a dry brush in a random pattern may provide that look? That said, it would also depend on the scale as down at say 1:350 or so, the scale would not show this? You might also have to research the ship and see if you can find photos that show the paint pattern (full coverage or with paint verges) for the ship in the period you are modelling? I am quite interested in this as I am building a 1:350 of HMAS Vampire circa 1973/76 and this is the period this paint started appearing. In Vampire at this time, the main deck was DEVRON (with verges) while the superstructure decks were still painted and used deck tread. She did not get fullly covered DEVRON decks until the very late 70s. I hope this helps? cheers Pat
  17. Thanks Wayne, some interesting references there; that will keep me busy for awhile Good luck with the publication of your research results. cheers Pat
  18. As I have found out Per - a big scratch already which I will try to polish out with "Brasso" but at least it is on the back (nearest the wall) side of the case. cheers Pat
  19. Where did you get such a small model/figurine of Anja and the other visitors? cheers Pat
  20. Thanks for the feedback USS Frolic. It would be interesting to see if there are any references to/instructions for this practice (Wayne?); and also be great to see that model or read its description on the NMM site at least (any links available?). WRT ready use ammunition, I relate back to my own experience. In the modern navy (RAN) for some weapons, it was normally stowed in the appropriate stowage unless in refit or the like; and it was brought to the ready-use state as determined by the readiness state of the ship. I would assume that even back then, whether at war or not, the provision of the ready use ammunition would have been driven by the readiness state of the ship and that, even in peace, there was sometimes the threat of privateers etc (depending on op area), then there is also the daily (in some ships), or frequent exercising of the guns, and the morning/evening "stand-to" at dawn/dusk which would probably necessitate the use of shot-racks to store an appropriate amount of ready-use ammo? I think then that shot-racks would have been fitted (of some type), the presence or not of the shot is the remaining part of the discussion? This discussion has been interesting, and I for one, would like to see some further clarification on this latter point? cheers Pat
  21. Les, I think all you need is already posted on several of the Endeavour logs. Certainly my log shows all of my deck furniture with my preferred design and colour. I must stress though these are my interpretation of what I think may have been the fit. The fit generally conforms to the AOTS with one or two exceptions where I have used the 'replica' as my source of information. One area that I think I do not comply with either though is the use of boat crutches on the gallows. The more typical, and perhaps more correct would have been to stow the boats on the spare spars. However, to my mind the spacing of the spars to accommodate the boat hulls, and their length overall, would have had the ends of the spars overhanging the midships pumps making them almost impossible to operate, and also possibly interfering with the working of the windlass. My solution was to use crutches and stows the spars between the crutches so that they are aligned longitudinally with the centre line and the ends then between the pumps. I have not fitted the spare longer spars in my model yet, only the shorter upper spars and mast poles. You might note that I also fitted a rudder post housing as well as the rudder post sock (on the transom). There are one or two comments in the log or journal that seem to justify the presence of the rudder post housing. There are several other discussions on the position of the wheel (not the overall wheel with standards, but whether fore or aft of the drum), the length of the jib, height of the mizzen etc in other logs you will find helpful - BUT - in the end you will need to decide what you wish to do based on your interpretation of the various bits and pieces of evidence, discussion points and what you 'feel' is right or wrong. cheers Pat
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