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That's a hole-in-one Mark! You're lucky as well that French warships seem to only have one pair of hawse holes. I always have trouble getting the second pair exactly right. -
I’ve always used water stones but really like the diamond ones better as they sharpen much faster. The trade off is price though. But, as Druxey wrote, the Veritas guide is a must regardless of the stones you use.
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On a professional woodworkers site his process is to halve the distance to the pencil cut line with each pass. This works well for me. It does take some practice to keep your chisel vertical but you'll definitely get better at it over time. I just purchased some diamond sharpening stones and leather strop and they are working better for me than my old water stones.
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Safe edges are files which cut on only two surfaces (or sometimes three) and are perfectly flat on the other sides. They are great for refining corners. The pillar files by Grobet on page 12 of https://www.grobetusa.com/content/NEWFile2014.pdf are good examples. Many carpenters grind the edges of their files to make their own. I don't disagree with Druxey that you don't need a mill to make perfect joints. I just bought a Kell honing guide and love it. But mills are a lot of fun!
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The dean of POF ship modelers used only a jewelers saw so you are in good company. You should be able to make nice keel slots by scoring both sides with a chisel and working from the center out with a chisel. You need a really sharp chisel and much has been written on that subject here already. You can also purchase small square files with the cutting teeth only on the top and bottom. this helps refine the edges.
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Which ever method you choose if using clamps please consider using small scraps of wood between the clamp edges and the plank. I can see a small divot in the plank adjacent to the clamp edge. Scraps provide even gluing pressure across the joint with no marring from the clamp edge.
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If you're building a second version make the first keel/false keel assembly slightly thicker with the tissue paper extending beyond the edges. Use a new blade to trim the excess paper to the margins. Then run through your thickness sander or over sandpaper affixed to a smooth surface for final dimensioning. You should get a perfectly clean paper edge this way.
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Innovative tool Kevin! For planking I would use tapered offcuts as wedges slipped between the ledge of the margin plank and the deck plank being glued. You can generate a surprising amount of pressure with tapered wedges. It's also efficient as you can just narrow them for the next run of planking.
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The use of the thin tape to make the reinforcing rings is very clever and looks very convincing Toni!
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Chuck makes a good point Siggi. Adding that fine molded detail is difficult, especially around curved surfaces. I assume you are using a scraper.
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Not sure your scraper will work with the rising wood attached but it would be a simple thing to knock off the lower edge of the rising wood with a v gouge if you add the rising wood after gouging the keel rabbet. There are many micro chisels with V-gouges available. for example: https://www.etsy.com/listing/829851705/6pc-ramelson-sub-mini-wood-carving?gpla=1&gao=1&&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping_us_a-craft_supplies_and_tools-tools_and_equipment-tools-other&utm_custom1=_k_Cj0KCQjwrJOMBhCZARIsAGEd4VFVN-rbOsnoV5afiynLCTWedCa7SWmgSkYYybXi-DfKyItXOfDjyaEaArPBEALw_wcB_k_&utm_content=go_12569400892_126353655504_507394790794_aud-459688892115:pla-295604191622_c__829851705_443242358&utm_custom2=12569400892&gclid=Cj0KCQjwrJOMBhCZARIsAGEd4VFVN-rbOsnoV5afiynLCTWedCa7SWmgSkYYybXi-DfKyItXOfDjyaEaArPBEALw_wcB
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It is easier to add the false keel sections together directly onto the keel as it is difficult to achieve a good bond over the angled tarred joint. I first glue a strip of black archival tissue paper over one surface, trim it when dry then perforate with pinholes. I seem to get a better bond this way. Additionally I would add the rising wood before cutting the rabbet as the bottom edge of the rising wood is incorporated into the rabbet.
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They are laser cut in one layer and all the planking is laser inscribed. I had built them originally of three ply layers but always had warping. After a year or so Chucks are still perfectly flat. I have also noted many Navy Board models where the tops have significant warpage. David's amazing carvings are all secured in place (see prior page).
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With Speedwell back in her home port I can commence the rigging. I have not sat idly by during her absence though and have fully prepared her masts and spars to expedite rigging upon her return. I will be using ropes and tackle made by Chuck as they are the finest commercially available in my opinion. As well I will be using Johann's excellent Creole log for inspiration. All the masting, sparring and rigging is fully described in volume two of the Speedwell series so I won't be going into quite as much detail as previously. As my last rigged model was constructed over twenty years ago I expect to proceed at a glacial pace. For me the process is more enjoyable than looking at the finished product. In the photo below one can see the unusual tops which are present on the contemporary model. I found them aesthetically unpleasing and have constructed the more traditional top I am used to seeing. If anyone can cite a contemporary model with the original tops constructed as per Speedwells I would appreciate a photo.
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Best of luck on your build. As David suggested, at a minimum you'll need to become proficient with a jewelers saw as there are many complex futtocks in the model. Taking your time and learning how to use files properly can result in an excellent model (as evidenced by Harold Hahn).
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Great set of photos Chuck. Did you happen to note that besides the excellent carvings the builder actually carved the volute scrolls of the hance pieces in a delicate floral (?) pattern (1109). I thought it was damaged at first but then noted this feature on all the scrolls. I can see how members of the Admiralty could be influenced at the prospect of receiving one of these models as a gift.
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Harold Hahn method
dvm27 replied to Essayons's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
When we contemplated the swan class build I asked designer David Antscherl to loft the jig for the Hahn style method. But even for a sixth rate the jig was very complex for properly lofted frames and I decided to build upright. Having built several Hahn style models I actually found building upright just as easy and more fun (I suppose because it followed actual building practice and you don't have to wait for the jig to be chopped away before you truly appreciate the lines of the model). Another alternative that is popular among French builders is to build upright using a jig below the toptimber line. Not too difficult to make if you have the framing plan. -
I think anyone who has built Winnie to this stage should be more than capable of making an impressive belfry with your kit Chuck. You can only simplify things so much before it affects the quality of the final product. I've built a couple of your mini-kits and achieved great results with patience and a light touch.
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I too shall look for a similar item in the US as I am just starting to rig. Great idea Johann!
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Having pre-ordered my book months ago I just received notice that is was shipped but with the Brexit problems it will take several months to arrive. Of course I could have had the same book in two days from Amazon if I had waited. As they both come from the exact same publishing house it's stupefying how different the delivery times are. It must be wonderful to be Amazon!
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I was thinking of showing my Speedwell in progress at the show but I was afraid the temporarily placed carvings might disappear. Guess I was right to be hesitant. RIP little Chucky! I hope a disgruntled client didn’t lift it for voodoo purposes. Any unusual aches and pains lately Chuck?
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Nice job on the waterway Kevin. The purpose of the waterway was to provide a seal between the side and deck planking. Water seepage would lead to beam end and surrounding wood rot. So this timber had to be very robust and secure from moving. Hooked scarph joints are quite strong and would help prevent separation along the waterway. Some authors consider the waterway to be part of the side planking as opposed to deck planking.
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Wonderful work, doesn't appear to need much fairing at all! I see you decided to do the hawse holes at a later point. After ruining a few hawse pieces I opted to cut them in later as well. I note on my 15 year old Swan class model I've had no gaps appear between the filling pieces between the floors of the frames. Perhaps that's because it's in a case in a temperature controlled environment. I did have gaps appear in my current Speedwell model but I think that's because she's been moved frequently to areas of different temperature and humidity.
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Congratulations on completing a very difficult section Bruce! Your model is looking very nice. This is my first visit to your log and I note the gratings in the waist are very different than those on the quarterdeck. Would you consider replacing the ones in the waist with Chuck's kit versions as they are not period correct and to me detract a bit from your otherwise excellent work.
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