jbshan Posted October 29, 2015 #271 Posted October 29, 2015 Catching up a bit: I really like your copper plate stamp. Just the few pictures you've put up make the method really clear, thanks. In future, to make a piece, like your cap rail, with a flat bend, you can make a laminated assembly with several square lengths bent around the curve. Use a series of pins or nails set to the curve, or cut a block of wood to the curve and use that to determine the curve as you glue additional lengths of the square stock. A piece of plastic wrap underneath will help it release. If it's all the same type of wood, the grain shouldn't be too noticeable. Canute, Piet, JesseLee and 2 others 5 Quote Joel Sanborn http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9953-lexington-by-jbshan-dlumberyard-164-from-the-seaways-practicum-by-clay-feldman/
Beef Wellington Posted October 29, 2015 #272 Posted October 29, 2015 Just another option, Admiralty make a copper paint that has micro flecks of copper in it and it is supposed to darken over time. I really liked the colour, as its a different, but not a complete contrast to the copper plates. Piet, Canute, GLakie and 2 others 5 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop)
Piet Posted October 29, 2015 #273 Posted October 29, 2015 That looks really, really, REAAAAALLY very nice JesseLee! You could try washing the copper with diluted dishwashing soap and rinse with clean water. Use a sponge - - a little stray water on the wood won't hurt a bit, as long as you allow it to air dry. Cheers, mtaylor, GLakie, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)
Omega1234 Posted October 29, 2015 #274 Posted October 29, 2015 Hi Jesse Yep...really nice job on the copper plates. I'm in the 'patina' camp, because I've always thought it looks more weathered and, hence realistic; but that's just me. Whichever way you choose would look just as good. Nice job! Cheers Patrick GLakie, JesseLee, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora
dgbot Posted October 29, 2015 #275 Posted October 29, 2015 Wonderful coppering job Jesse. David B Canute, mtaylor, GLakie and 1 other 4 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/
DenPink Posted October 30, 2015 #276 Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) Hi Jesse As above, very nice work. Happy Birthday Denis Edited October 30, 2015 by Denis R Omega1234, mtaylor, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Complete: Sovereign of the Seas - Mantua 1:78 scale Current build: Euro Model "Royal William" Scale 1:72 HMS "Revenge" Victory Model (Amati) Scale 1:64
GLakie Posted October 30, 2015 #277 Posted October 30, 2015 Just noticed it's your Birthday Jesse! Happy Birthday! mtaylor, CaptainSteve, Omega1234 and 6 others 9 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
Omega1234 Posted October 30, 2015 #278 Posted October 30, 2015 Happy birthday Jessie!!!!! Ryland Craze, mtaylor, JesseLee and 3 others 6 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora
Jparsley Posted October 30, 2015 #279 Posted October 30, 2015 Happy birthday reklein, GLakie, Omega1234 and 5 others 8 Quote USF Constellation 1/85 AL Jparsley
Elijah Posted October 30, 2015 #280 Posted October 30, 2015 Happy Birthday! Jack12477, Ryland Craze, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote -Elijah Current build(s): Continental Gunboat Philadelphia by Model Shipways https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15753-continental-gunboat-philadelphia-by-elijah-model-shipways-124-scale/ Completed build(s): Model Shipways Phantom http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?showtopic=12376 Member of: The Nautical Research Guild N.R.M.S.S. (Nautical Research and Model Ship Society)
CaptainSteve Posted October 30, 2015 #281 Posted October 30, 2015 May I be addin' me Birthday Wishes as well, Jesse !! mtaylor, Omega1234, Jack12477 and 3 others 6 Quote CaptainSteve Current Build: HM Granado Bomb Vessel (Caldercraft) My BathTub: Queen Anne Barge (Syren Ship Models) Log: Queen Anne Barge (an build log) Bounty Launch (Model Shipways) Log: Bounty Launch by CaptainSteve Apostol Felipe (OcCre) HMS Victory (Constructo) Check It Out: The Kit-Basher's Guide to The Galaxy Website: The Life & Boats of CaptainSteve
mtaylor Posted October 30, 2015 #282 Posted October 30, 2015 Almost missed it.. Happy Birthday Jesse. May there be many many more. GLakie, Canute, Salty Sea Dog and 2 others 5 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Gahm Posted October 30, 2015 #283 Posted October 30, 2015 Very nice coppering job, Jesse! Well done! Thomas GLakie, CaptainSteve, Jack12477 and 1 other 4 Quote Current Built: Model Shipways Syren (US Brig 1803) Last Built: Anfora (kit bashed) Ictineo II (1st steam powered submarine 1864)
JesseLee Posted October 30, 2015 Author #284 Posted October 30, 2015 Thanks everyone for the kind comments, likes & all the birthday wishes! Jesse Jack12477, Canute, Salty Sea Dog and 5 others 8 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle
lambsbk Posted October 30, 2015 #285 Posted October 30, 2015 Great job Jesse and HAPPY BIRTHDAY. GLakie, Omega1234, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Dave U.S.S. Constitution 1:96 Revell build with fiber optic lighting
Piet Posted October 31, 2015 #286 Posted October 31, 2015 A belated happy birthday JesseLee. Cheers, JesseLee, GLakie, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)
_SalD_ Posted October 31, 2015 #287 Posted October 31, 2015 Hi Jesse just catching up. Your plating came out great, nice job. I decided not to do anything with my plates and just let them age over time. For the edges and corners you might want to try a wallpaper seam roller. I used one and it keeps the plates down nicely. Try it on a scrap piece and see if it might help, don't press too hard. Oh, and happy BD. mtaylor, JesseLee, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote Sal Nautical Research Guild Current USCG Harriet Lane - Model Shipways Complete U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways New York Pilot Boat 'Phantom' 1868 - Model Shipways
Canute Posted October 31, 2015 #288 Posted October 31, 2015 Well done on the coppering Jesse. And a happy belated birthday. GLakie, Salty Sea Dog, CaptainSteve and 3 others 6 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild
JesseLee Posted October 31, 2015 Author #289 Posted October 31, 2015 Thanks everybody! Piet, mtaylor, GLakie and 1 other 4 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle
JesseLee Posted October 31, 2015 Author #290 Posted October 31, 2015 Getting frustrated. Need to pin the pintles. Been messing with it for several days. Don't have a soldering torch. Have a cheap iron but that wont work. CA isn't holding. Cant figure out how I'm going to get the pins to permanently hold. Canute, CaptainSteve, Omega1234 and 4 others 7 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle
Jparsley Posted October 31, 2015 #291 Posted October 31, 2015 I have no idea Jessie Wish I could help After everything I've seen you do I have faith you'll figure it out Your a master at engenuity GLakie, Piet, Omega1234 and 1 other 4 Quote USF Constellation 1/85 AL Jparsley
jbshan Posted November 1, 2015 #292 Posted November 1, 2015 Epoxy comes to mind for the pintles, but a pic would help. Salty Sea Dog, Omega1234, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Joel Sanborn http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9953-lexington-by-jbshan-dlumberyard-164-from-the-seaways-practicum-by-clay-feldman/
gjdale Posted November 1, 2015 #293 Posted November 1, 2015 I'm inclined to agree with Joel, if soldering isn't an option, then epoxy is probably a good choice. CaptainSteve, Canute, GLakie and 2 others 5 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout
rtropp Posted November 1, 2015 #294 Posted November 1, 2015 Hi Jessie, Before I bought my torch I used Solder-it, a low temperature soldering paste. It is available from Amazon, among other places. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0058ED0GO?keywords=solder%20it&qid=1446389742&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1 Ideal for speeding up soldering tasks Works with the heat of a match or lighter Will join 22 different combinations of metals Easy-to-use, no mess, no-waste syringe 7.1 grams . No, its not as good as silver soldering, but that requires a pretty good investment and can be difficult to master. It seems to hold up well, especially in areas that do not experience much pressure or pull. Mine, so far, have held up just fine. Richard You might want to try it. Salty Sea Dog, kier, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote RichardMember: The Nautical Research Guild Atlanta Model Shipwrights Current build: Syren
Burroak Posted November 1, 2015 #295 Posted November 1, 2015 Ok somebody slide over, I need a front row seat! Jesse your off to a great start. Thanks for sharing your build log with us. Greg mtaylor, JesseLee, CaptainSteve and 3 others 6 Quote GREG H.
JesseLee Posted November 1, 2015 Author #296 Posted November 1, 2015 Thanks for the input. I might try the epoxy. Will it hold something with such a small surface area to be bonded? (22 ga. brass wire). Richard, I'll have to check the Solder-It out. I had something like it called Miracle Weld, a paste that was just like that. It didn't work but that was 15-20 years ago. If you have had good results with the Solder-It I will look into it! Welcome Greg! Thanks for the encouragement. Input is always welcome! Jesse mtaylor, GLakie and Canute 3 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle
clearway Posted November 1, 2015 #297 Posted November 1, 2015 Belated birthday greetings Jesse- i drill into the hull and use brass pins held with super glue gel which sets faster than epoxy but doesnt need to be a tight fit like normal superglue. keith Piet, mtaylor and GLakie 3 Quote
jbshan Posted November 1, 2015 #298 Posted November 1, 2015 There should be enough of a gap to keep things secure. Use extra and file back to the correct shape. Pic is of the rudder post (left) and stern post (right) on an Arab craft. Pin on rudder drops into the gudgeon on stern post, gravity holds it in place. Yours probably has more of a zig zag edge where the pintles are set in a notch in the rudder post. GLakie, Piet, mtaylor and 5 others 8 Quote Joel Sanborn http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9953-lexington-by-jbshan-dlumberyard-164-from-the-seaways-practicum-by-clay-feldman/
JesseLee Posted November 1, 2015 Author #299 Posted November 1, 2015 My instructions say to solder or glue that pin that drops from the pintle & through the gudgeon. Nothing is holding for me. After studying the picture I think I can have the pin come straight down out of the notch in the rudder post. When it is all assembled no one will be able to tell that is coming down out of the wood & is not actually attached to the pintle. It will still work the same. I can still glue it where it touches the pintle on the inside too. Canute, Piet, Omega1234 and 1 other 4 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle
mrangus Posted November 2, 2015 #300 Posted November 2, 2015 Hey Jesse haven't checked in for a while, coming along nicely. I was on the road last week and happened to catch Master and Commander. What a great ship to build - I'd be watching the movie every week if I was working on the ship.... btw... happy birthday! JesseLee, Piet, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote
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