captainbob Posted January 25, 2014 #601 Posted January 25, 2014 !!!!!!!!!!!!! That's the way I would have said it also. Only louder. Bob gjdale and newbuilder101 2 Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray
tarbrush Posted January 25, 2014 #602 Posted January 25, 2014 oh Sherry!! it just made my heart hurt for you when I read your post. I know too well that sickening crash and crack sound. I am glad you are already working on fixing the damage, and that it is fixable. Your model is coming along so beautifully. best of luck with the repairs! john newbuilder101 1 Quote John future build: to finish Mary Rose http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/8507-mary-rose-by-tarbrush-scale-172-1545/?hl=%2Bmary+%2Brose completed builds: Constructo Steam Launch Louise
popeye the sailor Posted January 26, 2014 #603 Posted January 26, 2014 sad to see what happened......you can fix it........I know you can! newbuilder101 1 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch
newbuilder101 Posted January 26, 2014 Author #604 Posted January 26, 2014 Sjors: The sweater is in the closet now. I don't know about the fix being better than the original, but I am happy with it. Hopefully there will be pictures tomorrow. Bob: Actually, when it happened I couldn't make a sound - in shock I guess. John: Thanks for words of support and encouragement. I'm discovering that a lot of members here have had similar mishaps. Popeye: Thanks! Happy to report it's fixed!! Sjors, Anja, Doreltomin and 1 other 4 Quote Sherry Every goodbye is the birth of a memory... Current Build: San Felipe Finished Builds: Mayflower Build Log Gallery: Mayflower
mtaylor Posted January 26, 2014 #605 Posted January 26, 2014 Sherry, Good on you for fixing it. I think there's a curse on all model shipbuilders as everyone seems to have done this at least once. I've done it twice now. newbuilder101 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Shazmira Posted January 26, 2014 #606 Posted January 26, 2014 Ouch Sherry! I know exactly how you feel, extremely frustrating!!! Look at it this way...sweaters are always at fault, lesson learned don't wear them while building...at least your sweater only caused damage to the build and not to your person Glad to see you have the can do attitude!!! I have no doubts she will look good as new! newbuilder101 1 Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version)
Sjors Posted January 26, 2014 #607 Posted January 26, 2014 Is it already tomorrow ?????? I want to see pictures of the fix !!!!!! newbuilder101 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
newbuilder101 Posted January 26, 2014 Author #608 Posted January 26, 2014 Mark: Thank-you! I think I agree about the curse! I am sorry that your lovely Licorne was not something that could be salvaged, but am looking forward to Licorne II. Robbyn: It's really amazing that my sweater isn't in the garbage, but I really can't blame anything or anyone but myself. (even though I wanted to at the time ) No personal injury during this incident, but I have lots of experience in that department too - not nearly as drastic as yours though! Carlosys: Thanks for the encouragement! Will we see another update on your San Felipe soon? Sjors: Just for you ------- pictures on the way! Sjors 1 Quote Sherry Every goodbye is the birth of a memory... Current Build: San Felipe Finished Builds: Mayflower Build Log Gallery: Mayflower
newbuilder101 Posted January 26, 2014 Author #609 Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) So, here is the repair. There is a very faint light line across the middle of the stem piece that is much more visible in the photo (if you click to enlarge) than to the naked eye. The repair was easier than expected, since all the breaks were extremely clean. I was so intent to get it fixed that I neglected to include the process!! I drilled both parts of the stem and used toothpicks as dowels, then glued them together. The trickiest part was measuring the receiving holes in the main stem for the broken part containing the dowels. (I used a very, very low tech and unusual method with exceptional results) I was almost ready for an update just before the "great crash". The columns were fashioned and installed along with the edge piece for the quarterdeck. Also the shell decoration was fashioned and installed at the stern top. The last of the gratings are now finished and installed. I found some wonderful bead holders in the jewelry section of Michael's then flatened them and cut parts away to achieve the desired leaf shapes for both sides of the round gun ports. The exacto knife was put into action again, carving some of the stern decorations. At 1:96 scale, the inner vine and leaf pattern I wanted was just too small to carve, so I coated fine rigging line with white glue and fashioned the vines and leaves that way. I am pleased with the end result since it was to be painted gold anyway. There you have it, repairs and a little progress too. (Forgot to add that I am now experimenting with gun port linings just in case anyone spots the two that I have temporarily test fitted and forgot to remove for the photos) Edited January 26, 2014 by Sherry michael mott, russ, Adrieke and 20 others 23 Quote Sherry Every goodbye is the birth of a memory... Current Build: San Felipe Finished Builds: Mayflower Build Log Gallery: Mayflower
realworkingsailor Posted January 26, 2014 #610 Posted January 26, 2014 Nice fix, she looks none the worse for wear after her maiden flight.... Andy newbuilder101 1 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
augie Posted January 26, 2014 #611 Posted January 26, 2014 Right back on course !!!! She's looking terrific. WELL DONE ! Oh, keep practicing those leaf and vine thingies. I may need some on my next build mtaylor and newbuilder101 2 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
michael mott Posted January 26, 2014 #612 Posted January 26, 2014 A very clean repair Sherry. The way of solving the filigree carving reminds me of another builder's way of "solving" carving that is painted Gold;>) She is looking very good with each new addition. Michael newbuilder101 1 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.
newbuilder101 Posted January 26, 2014 Author #613 Posted January 26, 2014 Andy: Thanks! I think I can breathe a sigh of relief now. Crackers: Thank-you, and you're right about the encouragement here on MSW!!! I will look around and see if I can dig up some more of my art work to post - you can't see it now, but I'm blushing Augie: Thank-you! The leaf and vine thingies - I had more black bits of sticky string on me than anywhere else. It's a wonder they turned out at all! If you receive a package in the mail that looks somewhat like a black furball...it's your order of leaf and vine thingies. Michael: Thank-you! I had thought about using a polymer clay, but decided that it would be too tiny to achieve the desired result. augie 1 Quote Sherry Every goodbye is the birth of a memory... Current Build: San Felipe Finished Builds: Mayflower Build Log Gallery: Mayflower
mtaylor Posted January 27, 2014 #614 Posted January 27, 2014 Sherry, The repair is invisible. Great job. And, I love the way you did those carvings, so much so, I may steal that idea for my ship. newbuilder101 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
edmay Posted January 27, 2014 #615 Posted January 27, 2014 Great fix,well done,a master it will be,Edwin newbuilder101 1 Quote
casper1961 Posted January 27, 2014 #616 Posted January 27, 2014 Hey Sherry nice job on the repairs! I've got a good eye for details and I find it difficult to see any of the previous damage. I think she should be re-Christened the San Felipe-Phoenix I was going to say something smart like "great repair but why does she now have 2 bows? " lol but I'll save that for a rainy day Cheers Steve mtaylor and newbuilder101 2 Quote Built: Charles W. Morgan - Artesania Latina 1/50 Pilgrim 40 Trawler - Scratch 1/24 RCMP 40' Trawler - Scratch 1/24 Flower Class Corvette - Matchbox/Revell 1/72 Current: HMS Serapis - Aeropiccola 1/60 Future: NEW! Just Added: Friesland - Mamoli 1/75 San Felipe - Mantua/Panart 1/75 BonHomme Richard - Aeropiccola 1/50 Wasa - Corel 1/75 HMS Victory - Mamoli 1/90 HMS Unicorn - Corel 1/75
gjdale Posted January 27, 2014 #617 Posted January 27, 2014 Excellent repair job Sherry! Impossible to tell where the damage was now. Love the "vine and leaf thingies". newbuilder101 1 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout
tarbrush Posted January 27, 2014 #618 Posted January 27, 2014 the repair is a triumph Sherry! I love you technique for making vines & leaves. newbuilder101 1 Quote John future build: to finish Mary Rose http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/8507-mary-rose-by-tarbrush-scale-172-1545/?hl=%2Bmary+%2Brose completed builds: Constructo Steam Launch Louise
captainbob Posted January 27, 2014 #619 Posted January 27, 2014 Sherry, your idea with the thread and glue is great. I’ll have to hang on to it for my boats. Bob newbuilder101 1 Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray
Sjors Posted January 27, 2014 #620 Posted January 27, 2014 Thank you, thank you, thank you Sherry for the pictures !!!!! That fix looks amazing. I have now the feeling that you "FIX " the whole ship It is better then the original ! Anja is telling me that I have to go to scratch build. When ,and I say when , i'll do that I come to you to follow lessons ! Really a great job ! augie, mtaylor and newbuilder101 3 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
newbuilder101 Posted January 27, 2014 Author #621 Posted January 27, 2014 Mark: Well, the repair isn't quite invisible but thank-you. Steal away. I've "borrowed" many ideas from other members. Edwin: "Master"...I like the sound of that, but that is a fair distance off yet...if ever. Steve: Thanks! You caught me...you will notice that there are no photos straight on, since that would show the second bow! Grant: Thank-you. Not impossible to see the repair, but difficult. Hmmmmm....maybe if I don't wear my glasses... Carlos: Thank-you! I'm feeling happier about the repair with every kind comment. John: Thank-you! I am pleased with the repair, but mostly relieved! The leaf and vine technique - you know what they say about necessity being the mother of invention. Bob: Thank-you! If you're not careful, you will be hanging on to it - literally. Sjors: You are welcome, and thank-you! You should do a scratch build for the next time, we will welcome you to the dark side. By the time you finish Aggy, you won't need lessons! gjdale and Sjors 2 Quote Sherry Every goodbye is the birth of a memory... Current Build: San Felipe Finished Builds: Mayflower Build Log Gallery: Mayflower
Sjors Posted January 27, 2014 #622 Posted January 27, 2014 Now there are 2 lady's pushing me to the dark side O dear, what I'am in to....... gjdale, mtaylor, newbuilder101 and 1 other 4 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
riverboat Posted January 27, 2014 #623 Posted January 27, 2014 You are a real "DarkSider" Sherry..... excellent work! !! Frank newbuilder101 1 Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk)
popeye the sailor Posted January 27, 2014 #624 Posted January 27, 2014 I think the persons that came up with the phrases "wearing it on your sleeve" and "pulled by their coat tails", should be publicly flogged! ......I think you collared the repairs quite well :D I didn't go looking for that faded line you spoke of.......I was just happy to see how well you made the fixes....she looks like it never happened! I saw your little upgrades.......I like the red.......stands out well against the wood grain....what color were you planning for the other idea? decorative etchings around the ports looks sweet! nice! newbuilder101 1 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch
newbuilder101 Posted January 27, 2014 Author #625 Posted January 27, 2014 Sjors: "O dear, what I'am in to......." - Sounds like trouble to me. Frank: Thanks! I think the fix made me more confident on the dark side than just the regular building. Popeye: Thanks! I wasn't sure about the red, but I'm warming up to it now. I guess I'm tired this evening, but I'm missing what you mean about "the other idea" - the port liners? Sjors 1 Quote Sherry Every goodbye is the birth of a memory... Current Build: San Felipe Finished Builds: Mayflower Build Log Gallery: Mayflower
Senior ole salt Posted January 28, 2014 #626 Posted January 28, 2014 I admire your resolve to repair, especially your attitude. S.os Dan Vadas and newbuilder101 2 Quote New Bedford Whaleboat build. Kit by Model Shipways I've been making progress on my model and according to the instruction booklet I should be painting it, at least parts of it. Are acrylic's ok ? I did apply a sanding sealer. but I want to stain the untreated floor boards which are walnut. Thanks S.O.S.
mtaylor Posted January 28, 2014 #627 Posted January 28, 2014 Now there are 2 lady's pushing me to the dark side O dear, what I'am in to....... What else can you do, Sjors? Come to the darkside. avsjerome2003, gjdale, newbuilder101 and 1 other 4 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Dan Vadas Posted January 28, 2014 #628 Posted January 28, 2014 There is a very faint light line across the middle of the stem piece that is much more visible in the photo (if you click to enlarge) Sherry - you're fibbing. There is NO line visible, even when I enlarge the pic . Great repair job! Danny newbuilder101 and avsjerome2003 2 Quote Cheers, Danny ________________________________________________________________________________ Current Build : Forced Retirement from Modelling due to Health Issues Build Logs : Norfolk Sloop HMS Vulture - (TFFM) HMS Vulture Cross-section 18 foot Cutter Concord Stagecoach 18th Century Longboat in a BOTTLE CARD Model Build Logs : Mosel Sydney Opera House (Schreiber-Bogen) WWII Mk. IX Spitfire (Halinski) Rolls Royce Merlin Engine Cape Byron Lighthouse (HMV) Stug 40 (Halinski) Yamaha MT-01 Yamaha YA-1 HMS Hood (Halinski) Bismarck (GPM) IJN Amatsukaze 1940 Destroyer (Halinski) HMVS Cerberus Mi24D Hind (Halinski) Bulgar Steam Locomotive - (Modelik) Tanker and Beer Wagons (Modelik) Flat Bed Wagon (Modelik) Peterbuilt Semi Trailer Fender Guitar Restorations for Others : King of the Mississippi HMS Victory Gallery : Norfolk Sloop, HMAT Supply, HMS Bounty, HMS Victory, Charles W. Morgan, 18' Cutter for HMS Vulture, HMS Vulture, HMS Vulture Cross-section, 18th Century Longboat in a Bottle Other Previous Builds : Le Mirage, Norske Love, King of the Mississippi
Sailor1234567890 Posted January 28, 2014 #629 Posted January 28, 2014 One of the reasons I love sailing so much is the self sufficiency aspect of it. The reason I like to build my own boats is that if I'm stuck somehwere, damage of some sort, I know that because I built the boat, I can fix anything on it. That, to me, adds to the self sufficiency aspect of sailing. I am seeing more and more on this site that model builders have the same "I can fix anything" attitude and I really like it. Good job on the repair, I can't see it either. newbuilder101 1 Quote
trippwj Posted January 28, 2014 #630 Posted January 28, 2014 Fantastic repair, Sherry. I agree with Danny and the rest - I can't pick out the lines either! newbuilder101 1 Quote WayneNeither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.Epictetus
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