druxey Posted February 19, 2016 Author Share #151 Posted February 19, 2016 Ed: The frames are bent in wet, without any heat necessary. They are of such small dimension that this is easily accomplished under slight compression to 'spring' them into place. EdT, Jack12477, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdT Posted February 19, 2016 Share #152 Posted February 19, 2016 As I suspected. Do you glue them wet/damp, or let them dry in place first? Ed paulsutcliffe, mtaylor, Canute and 5 others 8 Quote All EdT posted material Copyright 2016 Edward J Tosti Young America - extreme clipper 1853 Young America POB Version Modeling the Extreme Clipper Young America Vol 1 1:60 HMS Naiad 1797 The Naiad Frigate Vol I The Naiad Frigate Vol II1:96 Victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted February 19, 2016 Author Share #153 Posted February 19, 2016 Glue 'em damp, and clean up any excess glue with a damp brush, Ed. WackoWolf, Canute, michael mott and 6 others 9 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted February 19, 2016 Author Share #154 Posted February 19, 2016 Aft frames are now in, with some fine adjustment still required. A ruler is included in the photos as requested. paulsutcliffe, Erebus and Terror, dj.bobo and 32 others 35 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie da fly Posted February 20, 2016 Share #155 Posted February 20, 2016 (edited) Druxey, the frames for my dromon will be a bit over double the thickness in both dimensions compared with yours. Do you think your 'wet bending' technique would work for them as well, or should I use heat as well? Steven Edited February 20, 2016 by Louie da fly Canute 1 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler La Lomellina - Theoretical Reconstruction of a Genoese carrack sunk in 1516 FINISHED Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share #156 Posted February 20, 2016 I have no idea, as it will depend on the specie of wood you will be using, Steven. You will need to experiment with both moisture and heat. Canute, WackoWolf and mtaylor 3 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remcohe Posted February 20, 2016 Share #157 Posted February 20, 2016 I totally missed the start of this beautiful build. On the upside I had a lot of catching up to do so Druxey you you made my day extra special Your choice of subject is great and your execution out of this world. I will stick to workboats as this barge is out of my league Remco Canute, mtaylor, Jack12477 and 6 others 9 Quote Treat each part as if it is a model on its own, you will finish more models in a day than others do in a lifetime. Current build HMS Kingfisher MSW 1.0 log click here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share #158 Posted February 20, 2016 Remo: I've seen your beautiful work and you are under-selling yourself. I'm trying to be in your league! dvm27, mrjimmy, Remcohe and 6 others 9 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvm27 Posted February 20, 2016 Share #159 Posted February 20, 2016 Whatever league you and Remco are in, the rest of us are huge fans. You guys hit it out of the park every time (sorry...baseball season is upon us again). mrjimmy, Wintergreen, Jack12477 and 4 others 7 Quote GregwebsiteAdmiralty Modelsmoderator Echo Cross-section buildAdmiralty Models Cross-section BuildFinished buildPegasus, 1776, cross-sectionCurrent buildSpeedwell, 1752 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahuna Posted February 20, 2016 Share #160 Posted February 20, 2016 Sorry I'm very late to the party. Wonderful work and excellent explanations - thanks for sharing this! mtaylor, Canute and Jack12477 3 Quote Frank Completed: Skipjack Kathryn; Dunbrody Sectional Model; Paragon (modified Mayflower) Scratch Build; Planning a Sectional Model of Dunbrody NRG Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share #161 Posted February 20, 2016 This will be the last update for a few days: the frames have now all been bent in. I'll be back in a week or so. Thank you all for following and liking this log. michael mott, Engelmann, Cap'n Rat Fink and 47 others 50 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siggi52 Posted February 20, 2016 Share #162 Posted February 20, 2016 It looks great Druxey. When I think that I would build something similar next winter, I start shivering. Regards, Siggi cog, Canute, druxey and 2 others 5 Quote Regards, Siggi Recent build: HMS Tiger (1747) Captains Barge ca. 1760, scratch build HMS Dragon 74 gunner 1760, scratch build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussben Posted February 20, 2016 Share #163 Posted February 20, 2016 Beautiful work as usual Druxey, a pleasure to watch a master at work. Ben WackoWolf, Jack12477, dvm27 and 3 others 6 Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted February 20, 2016 Share #164 Posted February 20, 2016 A week ...!!! That will be hard on my patience ... this build takes away the dread for the day ...have been looking forward to it's development ... such a stunning execution of technique ... marvelous result ... WackoWolf, druxey, Jack12477 and 4 others 7 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted February 20, 2016 Share #165 Posted February 20, 2016 I can only repeat what the others have said. Have a good week and hopefully we can be patient here in the gallery. Canute, dvm27, WackoWolf and 1 other 4 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share #166 Posted February 20, 2016 Thanks so much, everyone. A footnote: I fully expected the shell and frames to have spread until the internal members such as thwarts are fitted. This has proved not to be the case so far: the hull is 'on spec', with an overall beam of 6' 1½" (6' 0" moulded, plus 1½" for the planking). We'll see if this is stable when I come back to the model. Bill Hime, cog, WackoWolf and 4 others 7 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted February 20, 2016 Share #167 Posted February 20, 2016 She looks delightful, Druxey. John druxey, mtaylor, cog and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie da fly Posted February 21, 2016 Share #168 Posted February 21, 2016 A beautiful build of a beautiful vessel. What more can I say? Steven druxey, cog, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler La Lomellina - Theoretical Reconstruction of a Genoese carrack sunk in 1516 FINISHED Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted February 21, 2016 Share #169 Posted February 21, 2016 The hull is a fine piece of art as it is. Just like a lovely leaf floating on the water. Bob mtaylor, dvm27, druxey and 1 other 4 Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookster Posted February 22, 2016 Share #170 Posted February 22, 2016 Wow! I'm lost for words. I still can't get over how small this is.... Perfection mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Wes Cook Current Build: USF Constitution (Model Shipways) USF Essex (Scratch build) MS Syren (build log lost, need to rebuild) Future Builds: MS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the learner Posted February 22, 2016 Share #171 Posted February 22, 2016 All too familiar! Great job. I still have my plug and plan on building 2 more boats in the near future Guy Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerhardvienna Posted February 24, 2016 Share #172 Posted February 24, 2016 Hi druxey This is a great little ship, thanx for showing! Could be a model to build for me too, I`m following. I love all that gold, and the way you build the hull gives me some advise. Regards Gerhard mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Problems just mean: solutions not yet found Models in progress SMS DANZIG http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12842-sms-danzig-1851-by-gerhardvienna-radio-150-scale/ USS CAIRO http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13282-uss-cairo-by-gerhardvienna-live-steam-radio/ Baby Bootlegger 1/10 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13625-baby-bootlegger-110-radio-by-gerhardvienna/ Swiss paddlesteamer RIGI 1848 1:50, after plans from the Verkehrshaus Zürich, rescaled to original length Anchor tugboat BISON, 1:50, plans from VTH, scratch Finished models See-Ewer ELBE, Constructo kit 1:48 German fastboat after plans from german Reichskriegsmarine measure unknown (too ugly to show up!) German traffic boat for battleships WW2, 1:50, after plans from Jürgen Eichardt, scratch German Schnellboot TIGER P6141 VTH plans, scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erebus and Terror Posted February 24, 2016 Share #173 Posted February 24, 2016 This is like sculpture. Amazing. Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Building Terror Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvm27 Posted February 25, 2016 Share #174 Posted February 25, 2016 I have had the pleasure of holding and examining this little jewel of a model today and it is even more impressive in person. It is surprisingly small, light and translucent. It's quite perfect! I believe Druxey is building it on spec so perhaps some lucky MSW member will end up with it. Remcohe, Wintergreen, Canute and 7 others 10 Quote GregwebsiteAdmiralty Modelsmoderator Echo Cross-section buildAdmiralty Models Cross-section BuildFinished buildPegasus, 1776, cross-sectionCurrent buildSpeedwell, 1752 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbshan Posted February 25, 2016 Share #175 Posted February 25, 2016 I have had the pleasure of holding and examining this little jewel of a model today and it is even more impressive in person. It is surprisingly small, light and translucent. It's quite perfect! I believe Druxey is building it on spec so perhaps some lucky MSW member will end up with it. Druxey talked me through a yawl in 1:64 a few years ago using a similar method. Even with my unskilled efforts, it is astounding how egg shell-like the hull is. Of course he finished his four boats he was doing far before I finished my one. :-) dvm27, Canute, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Joel Sanborn http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9953-lexington-by-jbshan-dlumberyard-164-from-the-seaways-practicum-by-clay-feldman/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerhardvienna Posted February 25, 2016 Share #176 Posted February 25, 2016 Hi druxey Maybe I did overread this, what measure do the hulls planks have? This looks so incredible thin but strong too. Great work. Regards Gerhard paulsutcliffe, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote Problems just mean: solutions not yet found Models in progress SMS DANZIG http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12842-sms-danzig-1851-by-gerhardvienna-radio-150-scale/ USS CAIRO http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13282-uss-cairo-by-gerhardvienna-live-steam-radio/ Baby Bootlegger 1/10 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13625-baby-bootlegger-110-radio-by-gerhardvienna/ Swiss paddlesteamer RIGI 1848 1:50, after plans from the Verkehrshaus Zürich, rescaled to original length Anchor tugboat BISON, 1:50, plans from VTH, scratch Finished models See-Ewer ELBE, Constructo kit 1:48 German fastboat after plans from german Reichskriegsmarine measure unknown (too ugly to show up!) German traffic boat for battleships WW2, 1:50, after plans from Jürgen Eichardt, scratch German Schnellboot TIGER P6141 VTH plans, scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share #177 Posted February 29, 2016 Thanks for the comments, gentlemen. Now I'm back, it's time to begin fitting out. The first item will be the footwaling (the floorboards). These were laid athwartships rather than longitudinally, according to the specifications for a different ceremonial barge of this period (ZAZ7154). Gerhard: the planking is 1/64" thick, or a scale ¾". Trussben, Gerhardvienna, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsutcliffe Posted February 29, 2016 Share #178 Posted February 29, 2016 welcome back, I was looking at the plan for the mayors ceremonial barge and saw it said floors athwartships, I was wondering how you were going to do that Canute, mtaylor and WackoWolf 3 Quote The clerk of the cheque's yacht of sheerness Current build HMS Sirius (1797) 1:48 scratch POF from NMM plans HMS Winchelsea by chuck 1:48 Cutter cheerful by chuck 1:48 Previous builds- Elidir - Thames steam barge Cutty Sark-Billings boats Wasa - billings boats Among others 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerhardvienna Posted March 1, 2016 Share #179 Posted March 1, 2016 Hi Druxey Thank you for this info! Is saved for "further use" Regards Gerhard mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Problems just mean: solutions not yet found Models in progress SMS DANZIG http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12842-sms-danzig-1851-by-gerhardvienna-radio-150-scale/ USS CAIRO http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13282-uss-cairo-by-gerhardvienna-live-steam-radio/ Baby Bootlegger 1/10 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13625-baby-bootlegger-110-radio-by-gerhardvienna/ Swiss paddlesteamer RIGI 1848 1:50, after plans from the Verkehrshaus Zürich, rescaled to original length Anchor tugboat BISON, 1:50, plans from VTH, scratch Finished models See-Ewer ELBE, Constructo kit 1:48 German fastboat after plans from german Reichskriegsmarine measure unknown (too ugly to show up!) German traffic boat for battleships WW2, 1:50, after plans from Jürgen Eichardt, scratch German Schnellboot TIGER P6141 VTH plans, scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted March 1, 2016 Author Share #180 Posted March 1, 2016 Paul: I have found a useful photograph of the inside of Prince Frederick's barge (copyright, so cannot show it here) that confirms athwartship boards. These appear to be about 8" to 10" wide and painted red. There are also moveable vertical footboards for the rowers - a detail I've never seen or noticed before in small boat models. I was wondering if there were turned supporting pillars under the thwarts and indeed there are. All these will keep me busy for a while! paulsutcliffe, Canute, cog and 3 others 6 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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