scrubbyj427 Posted September 22, 2020 #781 Posted September 22, 2020 Very nice Chuck. Can’t wait to see more. Chuck 1 Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 - 5th rate 32 gun frigate (on hold for now) HMS Portland 1770 Prototype 1:48 - 4th rate 50 gun ship
Chuck Posted September 22, 2020 Author #782 Posted September 22, 2020 Thanks guys. Before I do the cheeks on the other side I will build another main headrail. I have built about a dozen so far and this next one should be the winner. Chuck Ryland Craze, Jack H, Stuntflyer and 2 others 5 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY
JpR62 Posted September 22, 2020 #783 Posted September 22, 2020 This search for perfection and innovation always impresses me. It is superb ! Thank You Ryland Craze and Chuck 2 Jean-Paul 'You are not carving a bear with a chain saw here folks', Chuck Passaro, ´Queen Anne Style Barge´ manual of instructions Current builds : Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model - 1:24 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 - Syren Ship Model Company - 1:48 Santa Maria boat 1492 - Korabel (Ukraine) - 1:24 Captain John Smith's shallop - Korabel (Ukraine) - 1:32 Finished build : Queen Anne Barge - Syren Ship Model - 1:24 Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways - 1:48 Batelina - MarisStella - 1:10 Next on list : HMS Winchelsea 1764 - Syren Ship Model - 1:48
dvm27 Posted September 22, 2020 #784 Posted September 22, 2020 You have certainly mastered the laser Chuck! The hair bracket and scroll work looks just like the Navy Board versions. JpR62, Gregory, druxey and 2 others 5 GregwebsiteAdmiralty Modelsmoderator Echo Cross-section buildAdmiralty Models Cross-section BuildFinished buildPegasus, 1776, cross-sectionCurrent buildSpeedwell, 1752
Chuck Posted September 22, 2020 Author #785 Posted September 22, 2020 Thanks Greg, I cant tell you how many test versions of those were needed. 20 failed ideas for every successful idea. But each failed attempt leads to some fresh new concepts to try. The hair brackets and scrolls are each made in four parts and the cheeks in three parts. Its just a matter of removing the char and shaping them as instructed for assembly. The builder wont have to carve any beaded details or create any profile scrapers to make them. Same is true for the headrails which I will show next. Although I did find it easier to scrape away the char on these with a sharp edge of my scalpel or #11 blade. When I do the other side I will document each and every step in the process. At which time I imagine other MFGs will try and replicate this. Most headrails and cheeks are pretty sub standard on kits which I am desperately trying to rectify. Even the newest companies cant seem to figure it out. No "glue-on-photo etched-kit-like" details for me. They look too fake. Unless of course folks are satisfied with a furniture grade ship model. I dont think folks are though. So its worth spending hours and hours trying to make them better. Chuck KentM, glbarlow, Ryland Craze and 5 others 8 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY
Gregory Posted September 22, 2020 #786 Posted September 22, 2020 This is far above anything available in a kit. Beautiful work.. I don't think it would be unreasonable to try to recover some of your development cost in your pricing structure before the cheap knock-offs show up. I know there is already a lot on your plate, but perhaps sometime in the future you could offer headrail upgrade kits for kits like Syren and Confederacy. “Indecision may or may not be my problem.” ― Jimmy Buffett Current builds: Rattlesnake On Hold: HMS Resolution ( AKA Ferrett ) In the Gallery: Yacht Mary, Gretel, French Cannon
Chuck Posted September 22, 2020 Author #787 Posted September 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Gregory said: I know there is already a lot on your plate, but perhaps sometime in the future you could offer headrail upgrade kits for kits like Syren and Confederacy. Unfortunately I would need to have a model hull without any headrails made yet .....and built really well to test any parts. It would impossible for me to create headrail mini-kits for any other project other than those I am working on at the moment.....and it takes weeks and weeks to get it right. The uprights for any headrails take forever to get right. I wont even be starting those yet for the Winnie. Chuck Jorge Diaz O, KentM, Ryland Craze and 2 others 5 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY
Stuntflyer Posted September 22, 2020 #788 Posted September 22, 2020 Outstanding work as usual, Chuck. From now on we'll have to call you Laserman. .Forget the other kit guys, they won't even come close to this. I have seen the prototypes you were working on and they blew me away. Those tiny tweaks you've been making sure paid off! Mike Rustyj, Bill Brown, JpR62 and 2 others 5 Current build - Sloop Speedwell 1752 (POF) Completed builds - 18 Century Longboat (POB) , HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 (POB), HMS Winchelsea 1764 (POB) Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey
Gahm Posted September 23, 2020 #789 Posted September 23, 2020 Amazing work, Chuck! It will be impossible to achieve anything like this with 'normal' carving skills! Thomas Current Built: Model Shipways Syren (US Brig 1803) Last Built: Anfora (kit bashed) Ictineo II (1st steam powered submarine 1864)
Gregory Posted September 23, 2020 #790 Posted September 23, 2020 Can someone have pity on a landlubber and tell me what the " hair bracket " is? You can imagine what Google came up with. bdgiantman2 1 “Indecision may or may not be my problem.” ― Jimmy Buffett Current builds: Rattlesnake On Hold: HMS Resolution ( AKA Ferrett ) In the Gallery: Yacht Mary, Gretel, French Cannon
Chuck Posted September 23, 2020 Author #791 Posted September 23, 2020 Its the part of the two cheeks that are on the stem. They have the scrolls on the forward end. Gregory, KentM and Jorge Diaz O 3 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY
Ron Burns Posted October 4, 2020 #792 Posted October 4, 2020 Chuck, as usual your work is astounding. I'm so glad I went this route instead of anything else. I have a question...what size treenails do you suggest for the deck and hull? I'm going to have a bit of time killing off the chemo so I figured I could spend it making treenails (mindless and almost soothing I hope) Jorge Diaz O 1 Current Build- HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48
Chuck Posted October 4, 2020 Author #793 Posted October 4, 2020 Honestly i dont recommend them for the deck at all. I would stick to to smallish size treenails for the hull using a #77 or even #78 drill bit. Ron Burns and Ryland Craze 2 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY
Jim Rogers Posted October 28, 2020 #794 Posted October 28, 2020 Chuck have you made anymore headway? Beautiful work thus far. Regards, Jim Rogers Damn the Torpedoes , Full speed ahead. Adm David Farragut.
Chuck Posted October 28, 2020 Author #795 Posted October 28, 2020 No not really. Too much going on out of the shop lately. My son is buying a house up in the woods and we are doing lots of work on ours as well. So I am trying to beat the weather getting too cold. Its all outside work. Gonna be a few weeks before I can even consider making saw dust. The shop has almost come to a halt. My old 100 year old house needs the front porch knocked down and rebuilt before the winter rolls in. Its an old wrap around open porch that is ready to fall down. Gonna take a while. Got an old detached garage now condemned which is also coming down. Some of the guys here have seen it. Im getting too old for this stuff. BobG, JeffT, Jack12477 and 3 others 6 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY
Thistle17 Posted October 29, 2020 #796 Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) When I retired I was looking for some satisfying work and happened to join Habitat For Humanity as a site supervisor. As the "newbe" I wasn't always given the prime work of building new houses. I got my fair share of rehabs. One was a 100 year old two story monster. I won't begin to relate the problems with construction and material differences compared to modern times. Everything was a contest and a compromise. Two by fours were really two by four inches (sort of, they had dried out so much they were not quite a full dimension). I can sense what you are encountering. As a home owner I have never resolved the conflict of macro work priorities balanced against the love I have for ship model building. No less that it is a business endeavor!!! Joe Edited October 29, 2020 by Thistle17 druxey 1
KenW Posted October 29, 2020 #797 Posted October 29, 2020 Sounds to me like you have to get your son(s) involved. My boys are extremely strong and work really fast. Nothing like youth. druxey 1 Ken NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA) Current Build: Washington 1776 Galley Completed Builds: Pilot Boat Mary (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Continental Boat Providence (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Continental Ship Independence (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Rattlesnake (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Armed Virginia Sloop (from Completed Gallery) Fair American (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build Log) Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey Nautical Research Guild
Rustyj Posted October 29, 2020 #798 Posted October 29, 2020 You have my sympathy. Been there done that as they say. Wish I was closer and could help. Ken, Send your sons over so Chuck can get some time on the Winnie! 😂 druxey 1 Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
Chuck Posted October 29, 2020 Author #799 Posted October 29, 2020 Kids are al busy....taking MCATs or exams or working. Its just one of those things....we have all been there. Cant wait till its all done though. Ryland Craze and svein erik 2 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY
Guest Tim I. Posted October 29, 2020 #800 Posted October 29, 2020 Chuck, I empathize. My house was built in 1898, and has a myriad of issues. Between work and renovation on the house, I really have not had time in the past two years work on ship modeling. Hopefully, these projects will go quickly and you can get back in the workshop. - Tim I.
svein erik Posted October 29, 2020 #801 Posted October 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Chuck said: Kids are al busy....taking MCATs or exams or working. Its just one of those things....we have all been there. Cant wait till its all done though. wel am also to far away😲 so i cant help out.... my work is to restore/rebuilds old houses in Norway, good luck and stay safe😊
Gordleek Posted November 24, 2020 #802 Posted November 24, 2020 Is chapter 4 available as a PDF and if so where can I find it?
CaptMorgan Posted November 25, 2020 #803 Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) Under the General Product Discussions tab above and then "Downloads area for the Winnie Monograph Chapters" But here is a quick link right to the PDF file.... https://modelshipworld.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=640941 Steve Edited November 25, 2020 by CaptMorgan updated link Gordleek, Jorge Diaz O and Chuck 3 Till next time..... 😎 Steve Finished: Artesania Latina Constellation; Model Shipways USF Confederacy: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company Current Build: Syren's Winchelsea
Kusawa2000 Posted November 25, 2020 #804 Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) Everyone: Quick question.. I have already hardcopied the friezes for the stern gallery and along the hull but I want to redo them on better quality paper. But for the life of me I cant find the images that I need to download and print. Does anyone have a quick link I can use? Im getting ready to start the Winnie as I am now seeing the light at the end of the tunnel on my Agamemnon. 🙂 Mike Draper Edited November 25, 2020 by Kusawa2000 Mike Draper Whitehorse, Yukon Canada Member, Nautical Research Guild
Chuck Posted November 25, 2020 Author #805 Posted November 25, 2020 In the other tabs above......where the other discussions are ongoing. https://modelshipworld.com/forum/93-general-project-discussions-on-planking-fittings-and-monograph-chapters/ Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY
Kusawa2000 Posted November 25, 2020 #806 Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chuck said: In the other tabs above......where the other discussions are ongoing. https://modelshipworld.com/forum/93-general-project-discussions-on-planking-fittings-and-monograph-chapters/ Chuck: I have looked under each of the subject headings in that section and still cant find the freizes.. do you which know which heading? I did find them under this subject heading but I dont think they are scaled for the Winnie.. unless ya download the JPEG and then play with them until they fit.. Sorry for being a pain.. just want to make sure I get the right image. Mike Draper Edited November 25, 2020 by Kusawa2000 Mike Draper Whitehorse, Yukon Canada Member, Nautical Research Guild
Gregory Posted November 25, 2020 #807 Posted November 25, 2020 I think this may be what you need.. https://modelshipworld.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=571772 “Indecision may or may not be my problem.” ― Jimmy Buffett Current builds: Rattlesnake On Hold: HMS Resolution ( AKA Ferrett ) In the Gallery: Yacht Mary, Gretel, French Cannon
Kusawa2000 Posted November 25, 2020 #808 Posted November 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Gregory said: I think this may be what you need.. https://modelshipworld.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=571772 235.32 kB · 197 downloads Gregory: Thanks!!! exactly what the doctor ordered.. 🙂 Mike Draper Mike Draper Whitehorse, Yukon Canada Member, Nautical Research Guild
Gordleek Posted November 25, 2020 #809 Posted November 25, 2020 4 hours ago, Kusawa2000 said: Everyone: Quick question.. I have already hardcopied the friezes for the stern gallery and along the hull but I want to redo them on better quality paper. But for the life of me I cant find the images that I need to download and print. Does anyone have a quick link I can use? Im getting ready to start the Winnie as I am now seeing the light at the end of the tunnel on my Agamemnon. 🙂 Mike Draper
Gordleek Posted November 25, 2020 #810 Posted November 25, 2020 Another question on friezes; what is the best paper to print on for application to the model?
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