Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Posted (edited)

Thanks Dave and Erik for your input, looks like scale planking is the way to go.:)

@ Erik - I'm not sure that I can get anywhere close to your excellent planking, but I do appreciate your series of photo's showing how you approached the subject.

I will try and follow your good advice and fine example.

 

PS: I have printed out your post above and pinned it to my bench to try and keep me on track. :rolleyes:

 

Regards,

 

B.E.

Edited by Blue Ensign
Posted

Post 22

Strakes below the Wale

Before I apply the second Wale layer I intend to fit the drop planks and first two planking layers.

I start with the first plank below the wale (3/16" x 3/64") which terminates at b/h J. and meets the Drop plank that will run to the stem.

DSC07313.thumb.JPG.2c38f3e45f2b6db3918d75ab916a98a9.JPG

7313

Following advice from Kurt, Dave, and Erik I have decided to  run the planks at scale lengths and this first section runs between b/hds J and B, the next section between B and 12, and a final short strip to termination at the Square Tuck piece. This last piece has some twist in it to follow the curvature of the hull.

DSC07423.thumb.JPG.3e7dfdd6753533b0f976f170d174f89f.JPG

7423

With the first strake fitted I can move onto the Drop Plank.

DSC07429.thumb.JPG.fc50ec923f1250db3b614bcac8bbff9f.JPG

7429

The last of several card templates to form the Drop plank.

From the plan the forward end tapers to 3/32" and the aft end where it adjoins the second strake below the wale 5/32".

The drop plank was cut from 1/16" sheet and using a jig sanded down close to 3/64".

It is then a case of sand and tweak, tweak and sand to get the bally thing to fit.

DSC07436.thumb.JPG.d793581e99402bfa4a8bd8d9c1885311.JPG

7436

I stuck at it long enough to get thro' several card templates and three Boxwood versions before I got one that I could live with, which is not necessarily the standard  some of my more adept colleagues could live with.

DSC07606.thumb.JPG.ff92d73f8044b18c96a88924505714d0.JPG

7606

DSC07603.thumb.JPG.85228b781a77b95b15d4b2ddbd610c04.JPG

7603

DSC07599.thumb.JPG.f63474821df5305c271a6d2bce919fca.JPG

7599

DSC07594.thumb.JPG.42b9050e9063b1e5bfdd175feddcc197.JPG

7594

At last after seven days toil the first two strakes below the Wales are completed, altho' in need of some serious cleaning up.

I will now move on to the second layer Wales.

 

B.E.

04/04/2018

Posted

The counter and transom are finally done (I think). I am not sure why the transom doesn’t have quite the crown it should have. Everything measures correctly as far as I can see. The top center is even with the end of the center stern frames. If I rip off the top plank and make it wider, I’ll have to figure a way to extend the frame heights to match. I might just go with the way it turned out. The Surly’s transom was more like this, but that was later in her career. Any thoughts?

 

Kurt

FFF76CB1-D0BA-4D59-BFB7-7A84FA303B8B.jpeg

4FA1571B-AF3E-437F-87C1-1EE57B545D88.jpeg

Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey

Posted

I studied the plans again and again and just as I was getting set to deconstruct I figured it out. I had made the side bulkheads running up from the last gun port to the transom too high. When I brought it down to where it should be everything comes much closer to how it should look. 

Yeah,  

 

I hope.

 

Kurt

Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey

Posted

Nice job on the drop plank BE,yes,it was bit of a pain to get it right. My first attempt was not good enough (a couple of tiny gaps) so was ripped out and replaced. Had no problem on doing the other side,lesson learned. Apart from that the planking was/is straight forward.

 

Regards.

 

Dave :dancetl6:

Posted

This really must be my lucky day!  The fashion pieces turned out okay and were really simple to do. For some reason I thought they were difficult. The hairdryer for shaping wood is the bomb! I never really had used it much until now, beats soaking and waiting. Like you I did both on some things.

 

Kurt

Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey

Posted

B.E.   Do intend to treenail the hull. I haven’t decided on that point yet. Looking through your past several posts I noticed you have Gromit to discuss your important decisions. The Curse of the Were-Rabbit is one of my favorite movies. Please tell him so for me.

 

Kurt

Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey

Posted

Kurt - might I suggest you create your own build log and share your pictures and approach there?  I'd be very interested to see more of your beautiful work, but it can be distracting and a little confusing for followers of BEs log to see pictures of another very similar model interspersed.  

 

BE - my apologies for hijacking your log - I can remove....

Cheers,
 
Jason


"Which it will be ready when it is ready!"
 
In the shipyard:

HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate)

Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700)

Finished:

HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop)

Posted

Thank you Jason, and thanks for your apology Kurt, I also think you should start your own log that we can all engage with, but don't fret about it.:)

on with the build.....

Post 23

Fixing the Wales

 For this 1/32" x 5/32" strips are used.

DSC07703.thumb.JPG.ddeaf90aaa8419c5482840e6f9616480.JPG

7703

Not too onerous to fit as clamping is fairly easy along the hull.

DSC07705.thumb.JPG.e9042df5f9fc3fc0c26706c054e1be4e.JPG

7705

Before they are fitted I painted the top edge of the upper wale strip and bottom edge of the lower strip where they will meet the Boxwood finish.

I decided to fit the wale strips in one length gluing progressively along the hull. This I felt allowed me to maintain a better natural curve  to the upper wale strip, and as they stand proud of the hull marking the butt joints with a micro saw blade was fairly easy.

Once fixed the forward 1" of the wale was sanded, scraped, and pared down to almost nothing where it meets the stem.

DSC07708.thumb.JPG.db7adcd5d7ab85d7fc254ef1fd20fe9b.JPG

7708

Cleaned up I then applied three coats of  thinned paint; I won't complete the painting until the rest of the hull has been planked.

I  decided to use Caldercraft Admiralty 'Metal Black' water- based paint, which is less shiny than their 'Dull black' version.

DSC07722.thumb.JPG.ddbe668717e4fed3f010a4b341acbea4.JPG

7722

DSC07725.thumb.JPG.4770d0d11e99bcebea6e3d52162d4d14.JPG

7725

DSC07726.thumb.JPG.e37fdca8540e514c02f62ddc94f87bf1.JPG

7726

DSC07727.thumb.JPG.29143e7e81fad3ec56f3669c6b52d96c.JPG

7727

A period of general cleaning up now follows, and some revision and preparation before I continue with the planking.

 

B.E.

07/04/2018

 

 

 

Posted

Very nice work  - good enough for nelsons navy.

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

Posted

Very nicely done, beautiful work on the planking, really looking the part with the wales added.  Definitely agree with your decision to use the metal black colour.  Looking fantastic.

Cheers,
 
Jason


"Which it will be ready when it is ready!"
 
In the shipyard:

HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate)

Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700)

Finished:

HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop)

Posted

Great work as always BE.  I agree with Jason, the metal black is really sharp looking.  

Mike

 

Current Wooden builds:  Amati/Victory Pegasus  MS Charles W. Morgan  Euromodel La Renommèe  

 

Plastic builds:    Hs129B-2 1/48  SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48  Five Star Yaeyama 1/700  Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama  Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700  Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32   IJN Notoro 1/700  Akitsu Maru 1/700

 

Completed builds :  Caldercraft Brig Badger   Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle  Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700   Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350

F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72  Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48  Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48  Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48  Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72

Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya  Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16

 

Terminated build:  HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn)  

 

On the shelf:  Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits

 

Future potential scratch builds:  HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans)

Posted

Cheers Guys, :)

 

Post 24

The first planking Belt - Preparation

I intend to follow Chuck's methods as closely as I can from this point on.

So it's tick strips and pinstripe tape to try and get somewhere, anywhere, :rolleyes: close to Chuck's example.

 Eight additional 3/16" wide strips required for this first belt at the centre.

Simple enough to determine the limit of the eight strakes  below those already fitted at the centre bulkhead using the tick strip.  

DSC07782.thumb.JPG.14fb166a1a278d9b7ac87f9fcf89a6a9.JPG

7782

The stern position at the square tuck is easy to see.

DSC07784.thumb.JPG.32bcd29a396399eab53931c00a4e6ee4.JPG

7784

Counting down on the plan the first belt seems to terminate  around the stem scarph joint at the bow.

DSC07780.thumb.JPG.8115f68ba1627a6d6803a309e488684e.JPG

7780

A tricky business getting the tape on, bally stuff was very reluctant to stay put and getting a nice run of tape along the hull took some time.

DSC07777.thumb.JPG.875fbe7cdf62acf81c60fb70bba1335f.JPG

7777

Hopefully I've got it right. :huh:

DSC07786.thumb.JPG.858d2af484b5506254eea827135f694e.JPG

7786

With the reference stations marked it's onto the tedious business of making up the tick strips for the rest of the bulkheads.

DSC07789.thumb.JPG.a54d1bf649003e6b37c1d76767c1bbb7.JPG

7789

For this job Cheerful is transferred to its low support base, easier on the arms and the eyes.

 

B.E.

11/04/2018

 

 

Posted

Very good B.E.The work to do all of the tick strips and marks will pay off when planking the belts.

Rusty

"So Long For Now" B) 

 

Current Builds: Speedwell

 

 

Completed Build Logs:  HMS Winchelsea 1/48   Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross SectionCutter CheerfulQueen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat

 

Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout

 

Posted (edited)

Thank you Chuck and Rusty. :)

Post 25

Planking the first belt

Chuck has set out the approach clearly in Chapter  four and I hope to follow his example.

I have tick marked each bulkhead for the first belt and tentatively  prepared the first strake below the Drop plank.

There is a fair bit to think about, marking the plank for the taper, remembering to mark the butt joints at the correct place, bevelling the plank before fitting, and marking the 'tar' line on the edge.

DSC08016.thumb.JPG.401b5eefc861d9e4e6f39b6e85552b47.JPG

8016

The first plank below the Drop Plank is very short with a butt  joint below the first port.  I prepared a longer plank to include the second butt joint which is just forward of the third port from aft.

The first butt joint was scribed, which allowed me to get a continuous run and more easily form the required lateral curve into the stem rabbet.

DSC08015.thumb.JPG.c87ce30465818cf885a49616c1a885be.JPG

8015

The third plank running to the stern was fitted separately and required a little twist where it runs into the counter.

DSC08038.thumb.JPG.469c209335b609e7ff90f27bcede1603.JPG

8038

Port side strake completed.

DSC08037.thumb.JPG.8e19ac342d6778b66deb5b7c9cf85a18.JPG

8037

I run planks port and starboard alternatively to monitor the match, and place an even stress on the hull.

DSC08040.thumb.JPG.2945c8f46163aa8ffd6d536a2ea92847.JPG

8040

Once the plank is shaped a dry fit is required to mark the butt joints, which are then cut.

The method indicated by Chuck really does take the guess work out of planking, which is not necessarily the same as saying I can match his peerless work.:rolleyes:

DSC08105.thumb.JPG.d58a17884c8a7b4ed5ecfef9894d80dc.JPG

8105

Five strakes completed below the wale, photo'd here in their unrefined state with only glue stains scraped away.

DSC08108.thumb.JPG.f80497e76d7971c3899fe526d89989a2.JPG

8108

DSC08113.thumb.JPG.ae7ed22af8889d55bd9e93da5bd67e88.JPG

8113

DSC08114.thumb.JPG.5da1133716548dfea6eec2afc96e5445.JPG

8114

DSC08115.thumb.JPG.6df40916fe66cca383c6332b93d553b8.JPG

8115

DSC08116.thumb.JPG.60a984f8d34f6ef4cf3f1e696e57f7a5.JPG

8116

I will now continue to finish the first belt. From this point onwards clamping the planks to the bulkheads gets a tad more tricky as they start to follow the round of the hull towards the keel.

B.E.

19/04/2018

 

 

 

DSC08045.JPG

Edited by Blue Ensign
Posted

Very well done B.E. 

Rusty

"So Long For Now" B) 

 

Current Builds: Speedwell

 

 

Completed Build Logs:  HMS Winchelsea 1/48   Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross SectionCutter CheerfulQueen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat

 

Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout

 

Posted

Wow -- that third plank really does have a TWIST.  Your shot from the bow really does show off your fine work -- pretty doggone close to matching the Grand Maestro Chuck, I'd say.

 

Cheers,

 

Martin

Current Build:  HMS FLY 1776

 

Previous Builds:  Rattlesnake 1781

                        Prince de Neufchatel

Posted

Excellent work BE. You really can't go wrong  following Chucks' instructions. One question,are you going to stain the hull a darker colour ? Personally I find that South American "boxwood" far too pale for my taste. The hull of my model is mainly built with dark pear,much closer to the colour of oak but that's just my preference.

 

As usual,keep up the good work.

 

Dave :dancetl6:

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...