popeye the sailor Posted July 9, 2013 Share #781 Posted July 9, 2013 no need to justify Andy........some things do take priority. good to have folks to help you.......sounds like a huge undertaking. you still have the motor boat right? Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdsaplala Posted July 9, 2013 Share #782 Posted July 9, 2013 Splendid serving-work on the shrouds, Andy, they look great Quote Best regards,AldoCurrently Building: HMS Pegasus (Victory Models)-Mothballed to give priority to Triton HMS Triton (first attempt at scratchbuilding) Past build:HM Brig Badger (Caldercraft), HM Brig Cruizer, HM Schooner Ballahoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted July 9, 2013 Author Share #783 Posted July 9, 2013 no need to justify Andy........some things do take priority. good to have folks to help you.......sounds like a huge undertaking. you still have the motor boat right? Yup, I still have my other boat to enjoy Looking at Mike Mott's thread, I'm not the only one taking time away for 1:1 (or 1:2 or whatever) projects.. Aldo, thank you very much. Have you been able to manage any hobby time lately? Andy popeye the sailor 1 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share #784 Posted July 16, 2013 Well... here I find myself back in the city for a couple days... had to run some errands...and chores.... (laundry... ) So while waiting for the machine to cycle through I made a stab at some rigging fittings... ok... one rigging fitting... Made my first attempt at one of the bowsprit bobstay collars. A most complicated bit of serving if ever there was. Two eyes served and spaced out far enough to accomodate a heart...or something to that effect. I met with partial success. No issues with the actual construction of the collar. Starting with the first eye, I served about 9mm of line. I tied it off and removed it from the serving machine. I formed the eye by passing the end though a couple strands, and secured it with a dab of glue. When that was dry I measured off what I thought was enough line to wrap around the heart, plus a couple millimeters, and made another 9mm run of serving. Made the second eye the same as the first, then when it was dry, served the intervening line. I then added the heart and seized it in place. I was feeling pleased with myself untill I held it up under the bowsprit.... uh oh.... not enough space between the eyes and the heart... hrm.... well... chalk one up as a learning experience.... I'll be heading back up north tomorrow, too hot to stay in the city.... dafi, Ferit, hamilton and 2 others 5 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted July 16, 2013 Share #785 Posted July 16, 2013 Stay cool, Andy. Peggy will wait. Nice heart and eyes.. Pity they are too big. One of the pitfalls we seem to run into on these things is just when we think we got it whipped, oops.... not so. realworkingsailor 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted July 16, 2013 Share #786 Posted July 16, 2013 Once you've sussed out the technique as you seem to have done Andy, it's just a matter of trial and error, frustrating as that may be. Not looking forward to those fiddly bits either. B.E. realworkingsailor 1 Quote Current Build: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-164-scale Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ finished 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ finished HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shazmira Posted July 17, 2013 Share #787 Posted July 17, 2013 So glad to see others are taking a break from building too. It is the time of year to spend outdoors after all realworkingsailor 1 Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted July 17, 2013 Share #788 Posted July 17, 2013 Looking at Mike Mott's thread, I'm not the only one taking time away for 1:1 (or 1:2 or whatever) projects.. Andy just wait till I find a couple of 1:2 people to sail the new model Michael realworkingsailor 1 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamilton Posted July 17, 2013 Share #789 Posted July 17, 2013 Nice work, Andy, even if this one doesn't do the job - as BE says - trial and error (with me it seems mostly trial...) Maybe you can mail that collar out to me in Vancouver - I might be able to use it on the Blandford....though the heart would be way out of scale.....enjoy getting out of the big smoke - we're not as hot as you out here, but I still can't wait to get out to the Islands end of next week! More relief from yard work than from heat.... hamilton realworkingsailor 1 Quote current builds: Corel HMS Bellona (1780); Admiralty models Echo cross-section (semi-scratch) previous builds: MS Phantom (scuttled, 2017); MS Sultana (1767); Corel Brittany Sloop (scuttled, 2022); MS Kate Cory; MS Armed Virginia Sloop (in need of a refit); Corel Flattie; Mamoli Gretel; Amati Bluenose (1921) (scuttled, 2023); AL San Francisco (destroyed by land krakens [i.e., cats]); Corel Toulonnaise (1823); MS Glad Tidings (1937) (in need of a refit); HMS Blandford (1719) from Corel HMS Greyhound; Fair Rosamund (1832) from OcCre Dos Amigos (missing in action); Amati Hannah (ship in a bottle); Mamoli America (1851); Bluenose fishing schooner (1921) (scratch); Off-Centre Sailing Skiff (scratch) under the bench: MS Emma C Barry; MS USS Constitution; MS Flying Fish; Corel Berlin; a wood supplier Colonial Schooner Hannah; Victory Models H.M.S. Fly; CAF Models HMS Granado; MS USS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share #790 Posted July 17, 2013 Andy just wait till I find a couple of 1:2 people to sail the new model Michael Just find a suitable pair of volun-tolds and chop 'em off at the knee... Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share #791 Posted July 17, 2013 Mark, it's that whole trial and error bit.... Mostly error... But when it comes to these things, if I have the power to change them, I will. I may spend another year and a half on rigging, but it will be right in the end. I'm already considering redoing the mizzen stay collar. I hadn't yet wrapped my head around serving the thing when I made it... Now that I have it figured out, (and a piece already the right size to copy from), shouldn't take me too long to whip off another. BE... Not counting glue drying time... Which isn't really that long (using GS Hypocement... highly recommended!) I've managed to make up a successful replacement collar in about half an hour. I have to make a note to commit my measurements to a piece of paper before I forget... Robbyn.... There's almost nothing quite like soaking in the lake up to your neck, with a nice cold beer... Ham, sorry to say, but I may find further use for that collar yet... Besides, the intermediate serving suffered a little when I removed the heart... Have fun out on the islands Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdsaplala Posted July 17, 2013 Share #792 Posted July 17, 2013 .....Aldo, thank you very much. Have you been able to manage any hobby time lately? Andy Thanks, Andy, I'm currently glued to the computer redrafting some new bulkheads for my Triton so it may be a while before my workshop sees some fresh sawdust. Very nice and clean serving work, Andy,based on this excellent job, I can predict that you'll master this new technique in no time realworkingsailor 1 Quote Best regards,AldoCurrently Building: HMS Pegasus (Victory Models)-Mothballed to give priority to Triton HMS Triton (first attempt at scratchbuilding) Past build:HM Brig Badger (Caldercraft), HM Brig Cruizer, HM Schooner Ballahoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted July 17, 2013 Share #793 Posted July 17, 2013 trial and error is a funny animal........sometimes you can whip something out without even thinking about it, and then there are other times, the more thought you put into it, the worse it gets. you've done a splendid job with the hull Andy........I think your rigging will be no different realworkingsailor 1 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted July 19, 2013 Share #794 Posted July 19, 2013 Hi Andy, Been a while since I last looked in mate, lovely serving work on the shrouds, your heart looked good as well, pity about it not being right but you gained valuable experience and knowledge in it's making. Doesn't matter how long it takes to do the rigging as long as you go at a pace your happy with. I, like all the guys and gals who are following your build know it's going to be right when your done. Enjoy the summer mate, and have a beer for me. mobbsie realworkingsailor, augie and trippwj 3 Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shazmira Posted July 21, 2013 Share #795 Posted July 21, 2013 Soooo......not to sound like you know who...but are you working on her, or still enjoying vacation? Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted July 21, 2013 Author Share #796 Posted July 21, 2013 Well... Up and down, really. Had to head south this weekend for a family thing yesterday, heading back north again in a few minutes... So not much building, no.... But with the heat, doing my best beer-adled hippo impression.... Floating in the lake up to my neck with cold ale in hand, (held out of the water, of course).... Andy trippwj, mtaylor, Shazmira and 3 others 6 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted July 21, 2013 Share #797 Posted July 21, 2013 lol- dont get that the wrong way around realworkingsailor 1 Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 Belle Poule 1834 by Kevin - OcCre - 1/90 - French frigate - started June 2024 - - On hold MHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished Hercules by Kevin - OcCre - 1/50 - Tugboat - Finished - May 2024 Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted July 29, 2013 Author Share #798 Posted July 29, 2013 I'm putting Sjors on notice...... Another run down to the city for the usual reasons (laundry...errands etc), so a little build time gets snuck in. Hence the following advisory: There will be photos forthcoming in the near future, like tomorrow, EDT, at some point.... Andy mtaylor, SkerryAmp and Shazmira 3 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkerryAmp Posted July 29, 2013 Share #799 Posted July 29, 2013 Excellent, must feed the Sjors! -Adam realworkingsailor and mtaylor 2 Quote -Adam Current Builds Santa Maria - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB MayFlower - Model Shipways (5/32"=1') POB Blue Shadow - Mamoli Revolutionary War Brigantine. (Fict) (1:64) POB (Recommissioned as the Kara June) On The Shelf Waiting so Patiently USRC Ranger - Corel (1:50) POB 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways (1:4) POF La Nina - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB U.S Brig Syren - Model Shipways (1:64) POB Completed Builds Phantom NY Pilot Boat - Model Shipways (1:96) Solid Hull Decommissioned Builds (Time and conditions were not good to these. They have been cancelled =( ) Willie L Bennett - Model Shipways (1:32) POF USRC Harriet Lane - Model Shipways (1:128) Solid Hull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted July 29, 2013 Share #800 Posted July 29, 2013 He grows impatient. And I'm out of Purina Sjors Chow. realworkingsailor and mtaylor 2 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lb0190 Posted July 29, 2013 Share #801 Posted July 29, 2013 I've thought about suggesting a software enhancement that would do the following: once your on the build log of your choosing, click a button and the only posts you see would be the ones with pictures. We could call it the SJORS or the UNOHOO button... realworkingsailor, mtaylor and gjdale 3 Quote Regards, Larry ---------------------------------------------------- Current Build US Brig Niagara Completed Builds George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat Future Builds 18th Century Longboat by MS HM Cutter Cheerful Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted July 30, 2013 Share #802 Posted July 30, 2013 looking forward in seeing your progress Andy! realworkingsailor 1 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted July 30, 2013 Author Share #803 Posted July 30, 2013 He grows impatient. And I'm out of Purina Sjors Chow. I thought he ate only "Pedigree"..... Either way, he's only getting the dry stuff.... There's no way I'm shovelling that rancid canned crap..... Kevin, mtaylor, SkerryAmp and 1 other 4 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted July 30, 2013 Share #804 Posted July 30, 2013 I can still read English guys So Andy, how about pictures instead of pedigree?????? Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted July 30, 2013 Share #805 Posted July 30, 2013 Now that you mention it Sjors, it IS tomorrow and getting late on the East coast. I shall return. Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted July 30, 2013 Author Share #806 Posted July 30, 2013 Late??? It is currently 12:20.... I still have almost half a day left! augie 1 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted July 30, 2013 Author Share #807 Posted July 30, 2013 Ok.. for Mr Super-Impatient-Sjors (and all the rest of you kind folks) some photos... Been working away at the main shrouds, one more pair to go on each side. Edging my way slowly towards a bout of rattling... I figure when I get the lower standing rigging done, I'll have a shot at getting the lower shrouds taken care of. Also made a brief stop over under the bowsprit. got the inner bobstay collar done to my liking. Made an attempt at the inner bobstay. It is supposed to be doubled and served all over, but I had issues getting a stong enough splice... I may yet revisit that bit again before this is over.... Andy Blue Ensign, augie, gjdale and 11 others 14 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkerryAmp Posted July 30, 2013 Share #808 Posted July 30, 2013 Egads another one - can tell from the full shot there will be so much rigging, so much line! (Intimidating to newbies like myself, can picture myself in a ball on the floor wrapped in rigging line sobbing into the night! ). Great start on it though, and the colors of the ship - really fantastic!! -Adam Quote -Adam Current Builds Santa Maria - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB MayFlower - Model Shipways (5/32"=1') POB Blue Shadow - Mamoli Revolutionary War Brigantine. (Fict) (1:64) POB (Recommissioned as the Kara June) On The Shelf Waiting so Patiently USRC Ranger - Corel (1:50) POB 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways (1:4) POF La Nina - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB U.S Brig Syren - Model Shipways (1:64) POB Completed Builds Phantom NY Pilot Boat - Model Shipways (1:96) Solid Hull Decommissioned Builds (Time and conditions were not good to these. They have been cancelled =( ) Willie L Bennett - Model Shipways (1:32) POF USRC Harriet Lane - Model Shipways (1:128) Solid Hull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted July 30, 2013 Share #809 Posted July 30, 2013 Thanks Andy That rigging looks great !!!!! Nice job on the lanyards and shrouds. Please go on and I know what to do…. realworkingsailor 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lb0190 Posted July 30, 2013 Share #810 Posted July 30, 2013 Andy, The rigging (and everything else) looks great! I'll reference your photos when I get to this stage. Quote Regards, Larry ---------------------------------------------------- Current Build US Brig Niagara Completed Builds George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat Future Builds 18th Century Longboat by MS HM Cutter Cheerful Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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