HMS Enterprise by Kevin - CAF - 1/48 - August 2020

[Kusawa2000]

Good day; I was checking out the enterprise on the CAF website and they have list "specifications A" and "specifications B" for prices on the Enterprise. Could someone tell me what is the difference? Are then installments of the kit or different wood that is being used? Just curious on what is the cost and what it involves.

 

Thanks ahead for any information,

 

Mike Draper

[ASAT]

Hi Mike, from my understanding the level differences of the kit is the consistency of the color/grain  matching of the wood  used in the billets? Tankerman posted this in the Review of this kit when the same question was asked....

 

 

The specifications of HMS enterprise are B and C

B. C material: cherry and maple

B. CWood carving: Boxwood

B. CMetal parts: Brass

 

B: window: Bovine bone

😄 window:Boxwood

 

B has less wood color difference

 

C is in stock, B needs to book (I need to select timber) the estimated processing time is 3-4 weeks

 

I hope this helps,

 

Chris

 

I think the above should read: B. and C. material: etc, etc,  so they are the same except for transom lights material and wood color and grain... I think...   Lou

[Kevin]

good evening Mike

 

Tom can deliver the kit in 3 separate packages, you will also have freight and import duties on top

set 1 Keel and rib 350$

set 2 Decks and guns 300$

set 3 Carving and other accessories  348$

 

sending a PM to cafmodel will get their attention, but it is a national holiday at present

[Trussben]

The ribbands would be temp while the hull was constructed, normally 4x4" full size timbers and they would run along the line of the floor/futtock joints ( where each of the frames was chock jointed to the next piece ).

[Kevin]

1 hour ago, Trussben said:

The ribbands would be temp while the hull was constructed, normally 4x4" full size timbers and they would run along the line of the floor/futtock joints ( where each of the frames was chock jointed to the next piece ).

Thank you, i am at present leaving them off as i am putting in extra deck beam supports, as i plan some extra internal detailing

[Beef Wellington]

Wow, catching up from the very start, so glad you are creating a build log, you look to be making pretty speedy progress.  This looks like an awesome kit and you're doing such a wonderful job.  Looking forward to more....I want this one day 🙂  

[Kusawa2000]

3 hours ago, ASAT said:

Hi Mike, from my understanding the level differences of the kit is the consistency of the color/grain  matching of the wood  used in the billets? Tankerman posted this in the Review of this kit when the same question was asked....

 

 

The specifications of HMS enterprise are B and C

B. C material: cherry and maple

B. CWood carving: Boxwood

B. CMetal parts: Brass

 

B: window: Bovine bone

😄 window:Boxwood

 

B has less wood color difference

 

C is in stock, B needs to book (I need to select timber) the estimated processing time is 3-4 weeks

 

I hope this helps,

 

Chris

 

I think the above should read: B. and C. material: etc, etc,  so they are the same except for transom lights material and wood color and grain... I think...   Lou

Chris: Thanks! the website for CAF isnt a big help in a description but I had a sneaking suspicion it was different types of wood that determined the 2 different packages. Im just window shopping at this point. Still have to finish the Agamemnon and also have the Winchelsea in the hopper as well. 

 

MIKE

[Kusawa2000]

3 hours ago, Kevin said:

good evening Mike

 

Tom can deliver the kit in 3 separate packages, you will also have freight and import duties on top

set 1 Keel and rib 350$

set 2 Decks and guns 300$

set 3 Carving and other accessories  348$

 

sending a PM to cafmodel will get their attention, but it is a national holiday at present

Kevin: That is something I may want to consider. Good to know I have options. Was there any problems in shipping or did you get everything in a reasonable time frame? 

 

Mike Draper

[Kevin]

11 minutes ago, Kusawa2000 said:

Kevin: That is something I may want to consider. Good to know I have options. Was there any problems in shipping or did you get everything in a reasonable time frame? 

 

Mike Draper

@cafmodel are excellent to deal with, from ordering and payment through Paypal its about 10 days to the UK, Shipping is pricey due to covid limited carriers at present they are using TNT/Fedex, 

I ordered part 1 including Jig 7.5KGS shipping was another $72 and about $50 for customs

parts 2 and 3 are here as well now so about the same again, i believe next time i will bite the bullet get the lot to cut the cost down

[Kevin]

33 minutes ago, Beef Wellington said:

Wow, catching up from the very start, so glad you are creating a build log, you look to be making pretty speedy progress.  This looks like an awesome kit and you're doing such a wonderful job.  Looking forward to more....I want this one day 🙂  

welcome Jason

This is for me the ultimate build, possibly the last big scale i will ever be able to afford  do, so i am not going to worry so much about it, and just do it,

intentions are for internal decks, masting and sails, in a 3 to 4 year time scale, its a great kit, and fun at the same time, as its all the elements i have dealt with in the past and now i get to understand how and why they are made like that

[Kusawa2000]

20 hours ago, Kevin said:

@cafmodel are excellent to deal with, from ordering and payment through Paypal its about 10 days to the UK, Shipping is pricey due to covid limited carriers at present they are using TNT/Fedex, 

I ordered part 1 including Jig 7.5KGS shipping was another $72 and about $50 for customs

parts 2 and 3 are here as well now so about the same again, i believe next time i will bite the bullet get the lot to cut the cost down

Kevin: thanks. its the best way to contact them through their website email? or are they a member of MSW?

Mike 

[Kevin]

17 minutes ago, Kusawa2000 said:

Kevin: thanks. its the best way to contact them through their website email? or are they a member of MSW?

Mike 

PM them here on MSW @cafmodel

 

[Kusawa2000]

18 minutes ago, Kevin said:

PM them here on MSW @cafmodel

 

Kevin: Thanks!!!! 

 

MIKE

[Kevin]

good evening everyone

 

there are two things in life i dread to hear

 

1. i want a divorce

2 the back end of your Enterprise is wrong

 

im sure there 100's of others

 

lol im still married so that leaves number 2

 

basicly i screwed up on the last pair of cants, which i ignored, then tried to make it look right with the transom, and then it bit me when the deck supports went in,

so i have been sorting it out the last few days, 

this all came to pass when i showed  @cafmodel

anyway, i will be putting the deck beams back in tomorrow and try to make some progress

the camera angle does not help but the port side was 5mm out

[GuntherMT]

No model is ever complete without a bit of deconstruction!

[Kevin]

Good evening everyone

Day 40 correction of transom, main deck and lower deck support beams

 

well i sorted the wrong bits out, and now everything is the same height (lol it may all be wrong, but the same wrong all over)

 

 

the main deck support is now right, i fully removed it to enable removal of cant 57, this allowed me to redo the lower deck support 

 

the 1/4 deck still needs to be adjusted but its ideal for keeping the after frames lined up

 

at present i am playing about with the 1/2 decks, but at the same time sorting the (limber boards) either side of the keel inside the hold

[scrubbyj427]

Hi Kevin, are you adding an additional lower deck to this model? She’s looking really nice.
 

JJ

[Kevin]

7 minutes ago, scrubbyj427 said:

Hi Kevin, are you adding an additional lower deck to this model? She’s looking really nice.
 

JJ

im adding the full lower deck and the two 1/2 decks, just like @iosto did, but just using the Pandora book and his photos (should be a fun watch lol)

[scrubbyj427]

Very interesting, I’m watching with much interest, considering building this next.

 

JJ

[Kevin]

11 minutes ago, scrubbyj427 said:

Very interesting, I’m watching with much interest, considering building this next.

 

JJ

come and build mine, im out of my comfort zone

[Old Collingwood]

Thats a good recovery mate  - I did have to look a few times to see the  hick up.

 

OC.

[James H]

She's looking great. 

 

I've never had to fair the inside of a hull before, so let me know how that goes.

[scrubbyj427]

Kevin, shall I PM you a mailing address?😂

 

your build looks great so far, leaving the comfort zone is good.

[ASAT]

8 hours ago, James H said:

She's looking great. 

 

I've never had to fair the inside of a hull before, so let me know how that goes.

James, I found that some 1.9lb EPP foam (like computer, electronics shipping protection) the really stiff stuff works a treat as a sanding block - easily shaped with a serrated knife, and provides enough stiffness but still conforms to a concave, curved shape.   Depending on what part of the hull you are fairing, you need various shaped blocks.....  I have also wanted to try these :  https://woodworker.com/soft-contour-hand-sanders-mssu-150-362.asp?GF=150-362

[James H]

13 minutes ago, ASAT said:

James, I found that some 1.9lb EPP foam (like computer, electronics shipping protection) the really stiff stuff works a treat as a sanding block - easily shaped with a serrated knife, and provides enough stiffness but still conforms to a concave, curved shape.   Depending on what part of the hull you are fairing, you need various shaped blocks.....  I have also wanted to try these :  https://woodworker.com/soft-contour-hand-sanders-mssu-150-362.asp?GF=150-362

I was thinking about a very thin and narrow piece of ply, maybe about 4 inches long, and wrapped in abrasive paper. Anything with varying densities could mean than they'll not act as a bulwark against any internal irregularities. 

[ASAT]

Yeah, I have made several shapes of sanders from wood also, but I found that as you move to the fwd cants and even the stern its hard to keep your block across two or three frames at a time, unless you make lots of different radiused blocks- the foam will conform and I find its easier to control the amount of material removed - YMMV...

[Kevin]

On 10/14/2020 at 7:12 AM, James H said:

She's looking great. 

 

I've never had to fair the inside of a hull before, so let me know how that goes.

sanding has been minimal, and most of that was done with a mouse sander, any thing else has been with sandpaper wrapped around parts of the framing jig, as the parts are at right angles its a very handy sanding tool

[Kevin]

good evening everyone

 

Day 41 limber boards

 

i think about half will be hidden under the half decks, and the other half might be under cargo, so yep maybe a waste od time, for enjoyment i give myself 10/10, quality of my work 2/10 

 

for those unknowing this is the lowest part of the vessel and where water collects and access is allowed to pump or bale 

 

 

[Kevin]

Good evening everyone

thank you for likes and comments

day 43 internal planking port side upto lower deck support

still has to be filled and sanded, then treenailed 

[Kevin]

good evening everyone

 

Day 44 treenailing inner planks

 

still very much work in progress, but if it dont look right, im prepared to rip it all out again, a lot of sanding still required