HMS Enterprise by Kevin - CAF - 1/48 - August 2020

[dkuehn]

1 minute ago, Kevin said:

agreed, i dont have the space for the decent camera shots, I will try to do better though)

I think he meant that it would be nice if you had some James H photos available to help you see what to do as your current instructions are lacking a little. I just bought the Flirt so I'll have some James H photos to get me through that build. 

[Old Collingwood]

I see, so you still have to  shape them  yourself?

 

OC.

[Kevin]

3 minutes ago, Old Collingwood said:

I see, so you still have to  shape them  yourself?

 

OC.

yes, its more of a guide, as no doubt everyones built will be slightly different, with up to 28 futtocks per frame, and 60 of them, there has to be room for error, and of course there is me who is perhaps doing it all wrong anyway

[Kevin]

good evening everyone

 

day 10 keel and frames

 

so far 24 full frames and 6 half frames have been completed, some of them are still under weights to keep them flat

 

today i attempted to clean one of the frames up by scraping, it turned out ok, but still loads more to do and i have to find a way to do inside

 

i may have to take the keel apart, as i have forgotten the rabbit line, i would sooner do it now than after the frames are in

 

 

[James H]

That's looking real good. What did you use to scrape that frame to remove char?

[Kevin]

5 minutes ago, James H said:

That's looking real good. What did you use to scrape that frame to remove char?

a stanley blade, and yes i still have 8.5 fingers

 

[maaaslo]

kevin, out of curiosity, did you have to pay customs charge on this? if so, how much was it? i am thinking about getting something from CAF in the future, but only if tax will not be prohibitive

[Kevin]

11 hours ago, maaaslo said:

kevin, out of curiosity, did you have to pay customs charge on this? if so, how much was it? i am thinking about getting something from CAF in the future, but only if tax will not be prohibitive

i got the bill yesterday from TNT/FEDEX for £36, which means i have a £250 framing kit and £140 extra to get it here, seams a lot, and i will need parts 2 and 3 in the future, but i see it a long term project so lol if i can convince myself then i will sell the idea to the wife

[clearway]

Ouch so not a cheap project, but then none are (with extras i have doubled cost of occre kit for terror, and as for victory)! For cleaning up inside the frames you could wrap sandpaper around some large diameter dowel/ tubing (that is how i do inside curves when needed).

 

Keith

[Tankerman]

I have found it easier to scrape the char off with a Swann Morton No.2 blade on each segment before glueing anything together. Even those frames that require bevelling  get this treatment as the char does not then clog up the Proxxon sanding drums.

 

Chris

[DavidG]

I gave a try to char removal with a dremel brush with mixed results. It worked fine to remove the loose top layer (which makes most of the mess) but the rest remained for hand filing. But at least made the dirty work a bit faster.

[Kevin]

Good evening everyone

 

day 12 keel and frames

 

i have made up 13 frames this morning, but i did start at 0400

 

I think i have about 10 left to make, plus the cants and the stern timbers

 

the keel needs to be taken apart to do the wabbit line, all in all im happy with the progress made, even managed to clean two of the frames up

 

Thinking ahead, how would i go about in putting internal decks, as i have no plans, would i need a milling machine?

 

in the photos the frames are just sitting on top of the keel

[BobG]

3 hours ago, Kevin said:

i did start at 0400

That's before the roosters crow! 😲

[mugje]

you're progress is quite fast!

[Kevin]

39 minutes ago, mugje said:

you're progress is quite fast!

im sure it will slow down, when i realise they are all made wrong, dont fit, or another project comes along

[Kevin]

Day away from the build, baby sitting chickens i guess there are better ways to celebrate a birthday,   

 

I have spent the morning thinking about getting a proxxon mf70, or looking to see if there is anything better to help with the 1 1/2 decks that dont come with the kit

[Kevin]

good evening everyone

 

been away from the build couple of days, i found myself and the wife baby sitting her daughters chickens, we survived that but i had an accident, i fell asleep in one of their recliners (the daugters, not the chickens), woke up raised the seat back up and heard that sickening sound of breaking glass, yep my ipad had fallen down the side, and yes it is well and truly broken

 

day 14 Hawse Timbers

 

i was going to write how poorly i am doing this build, yes it is no where as good as others, but i am realy enjoying it

the keel is made up, but i certainly made a mess of it taking it to pieces to do the rabbit line, 

the Hawse timbers  are made up, but i may have taken to much wood off, and i see no possible way that they are going to fit, by the time frame one goes in 

the cleaning up continues, and the house smells of sanded cherry wood, 

 

Hawse timbers assembly

 

 

[clearway]

😁 can't beat ship based sado masochism

[Kevin]

9 minutes ago, clearway said:

😁 can't beat ship based sado masochism

lol i am sure you can, but i wouldnt change it 

[JeffT]

oho no! not the ipad! your cant frames look pretty good. they are tough to get right sometimes.

[ASAT]

I really like this kit, pretty cutting edge, I am anxious to see how well the hull framing turns out.....

[Kevin]

9 hours ago, ASAT said:

I really like this kit, pretty cutting edge, I am anxious to see how well the hull framing turns out.....

of the 50 odd full frames about 3 are cleaned up and the keel is ready to accept them,  all the forward 1/2 frames are cleaned up, but still to be angled to fit in the jig/keel,

I hope to have most of the cleaning up done in the next week,

i am at present working out if best to work forward or go aft 

reasons are

1 apparently the the stern timbers are awkward to fit whilst in the jig, 

2 if  working from fwd it will have to be from frame 2, as I am unsure of the space the Hawse timbers require, (all a learning curve)

[Kevin]

from the CAF site of the frames in the Jig

[Tankerman]

Derek, try working from for'd and aft towards midship, that way you have space to see what you are doing.

 

On the matter of terminology, the frames that you have assembled in the  two jigs are known as the "hawse pieces" or "hawse timbers", the "cant frames" are the half frames nos.1-7 that you have assembled. 

 

Chris

[Kevin]

2 hours ago, Tankerman said:

Derek, try working from for'd and aft towards midship, that way you have space to see what you are doing.

 

On the matter of terminology, the frames that you have assembled in the  two jigs are known as the "hawse pieces" or "hawse timbers", the "cant frames" are the half frames nos.1-7 that you have assembled. 

 

Chris

lol who is Derek

and thank you for correcting me, i will get that  sorted out 

[Tankerman]

Sorry Kevin, I had just been corresponding on another web forum with a gentleman named Derek about a Pocher 1/8 scale model car I had built so had the name on my mind.

 

Chris

[Kevin]

1 hour ago, Tankerman said:

Sorry Kevin, I had just been corresponding on another web forum with a gentleman named Derek about a Pocher 1/8 scale model car I had built so had the name on my mind.

 

Chris

actually, i prefer Derek

[Kevin]

1 hour ago, Tankerman said:

Sorry Kevin, I had just been corresponding on another web forum with a gentleman named Derek about a Pocher 1/8 scale model car I had built so had the name on my mind.

 

Chris

actually i have been following this  pocher build here on MSW 

 

[Kevin]

my last post has been updated, as I mixed up my Cants and Hawse

[Kevin]

good morning everyone

Day 15 keel and frame cleanup

 

about 6 hours work, and 20 frames are looking a lot better