ccoyle Posted July 24, 2022 Author Share #31 Posted July 24, 2022 Finished rudder and wheels. hof00, Edwardkenway, lmagna and 12 others 15 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Bf 109E-7/trop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted July 24, 2022 Author Share #32 Posted July 24, 2022 All control surfaces done and have started work on the cabane struts. popeye the sailor, Richard44, Keith Black and 11 others 14 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Bf 109E-7/trop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_E Posted July 24, 2022 Share #33 Posted July 24, 2022 Sorry I’m late. Old Collingwood, thibaultron, Edwardkenway and 6 others 9 Quote Dave Current builds: Rattlesnake Completed builds: Lady Nelson On the shelf: NRG Half Hull Project, Various metal, plastic and paper models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted July 25, 2022 Author Share #34 Posted July 25, 2022 Test fit of top wing to cabane struts -- can't ask for a better initial fit. Feels quite solid. pjofc4, Edwardkenway, Canute and 16 others 19 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Bf 109E-7/trop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted July 25, 2022 Share #35 Posted July 25, 2022 Neat looking little kite, Chris. Egilman, popeye the sailor, mtaylor and 6 others 9 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SigEp Ziggy Posted July 26, 2022 Share #36 Posted July 26, 2022 Impressive, most impressive! thibaultron, Keith Black, Old Collingwood and 5 others 8 Quote Your Shipmate, Ziggy Current Builds: USS Arizona and Memorial Columbus Ship Nina HMS Blandford Cross-section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_E Posted July 26, 2022 Share #37 Posted July 26, 2022 2 hours ago, SigEp Ziggy said: Impressive, most impressive! Did you say that out loud in your Darth Vader voice? 😆 Sorry, couldn’t resist. thibaultron, king derelict, Keith Black and 8 others 5 6 Quote Dave Current builds: Rattlesnake Completed builds: Lady Nelson On the shelf: NRG Half Hull Project, Various metal, plastic and paper models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJohnson Posted July 26, 2022 Share #38 Posted July 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Dave_E said: Did you say that out loud in your Darth Vader voice? 😆 Sorry, couldn’t resist. Well there is something of the “force” being used in Chris’s paper builds. “Paper is the path to the dark side”…. 😉 Canute, popeye the sailor, Edwardkenway and 5 others 3 5 Quote Andrew Current builds:- HM Gun-brig Sparkler - Vanguard (1/64) , HMAV Bounty - Caldercraft (1/64) Completed (Kits):- Vanguard Models (1/64) :- HM Cutter Trial , Nisha - Brixham trawler Caldercraft (1/64) :- HMS Orestes(Mars), HM Cutter Sherbourne Paper Shipwright (1/250) :- TSS Earnslaw, Puffer Starlight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted July 27, 2022 Share #39 Posted July 27, 2022 looking great! really nice progress Dave_E, thibaultron, ccoyle and 6 others 9 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack12477 Posted July 28, 2022 Share #40 Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) @ccoyle Chris, what type of glue do you use in that applicator, post #12 ? I found that applicator in my local Hobby Lobby, tried to use Elmers yellow wood glue and disaster. Glogged it up good. Spent an hour with good ole isopropyl cleaning it out. Was intending to use it on my wood boat model. What glue(s) do you recommend using with it. Edited July 28, 2022 by Jack12477 thibaultron, Old Collingwood, Canute and 7 others 10 Quote Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted July 28, 2022 Author Share #41 Posted July 28, 2022 56 minutes ago, Jack12477 said: Chris, what type of glue do you use in that applicator, post #12 ? Evergreen Canopy Glue. Haven't tried any other glues with it. thibaultron, Egilman, Old Collingwood and 8 others 8 3 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Bf 109E-7/trop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted July 28, 2022 Share #42 Posted July 28, 2022 1 hour ago, ccoyle said: Evergreen Canopy Glue. Haven't tried any other glues with it. Never thought of using Evergreen with a syrette, that's a heck of an idea... Evergreen can be thinned quite well and as long as air doesn't get to it it doesn't dry out that much.... (unless you leave it sit for a year or two)... popeye the sailor, mtaylor, thibaultron and 8 others 10 1 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted July 28, 2022 Author Share #43 Posted July 28, 2022 I'm finding that canopy glue has many useful qualities for card models -- grabs quick, dries clear, and can be touched up with a damp brush or fingertip. The one fault I find is that it remains somewhat flexible after curing, so it is not entirely suitable for joints that require rigid connections. I used to use thinned PVA quite a bit, applied with a brush (messy!), but I've really taken a shine to using the canopy glue and applicator. Egilman, Jack12477, Canute and 9 others 12 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Bf 109E-7/trop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted July 29, 2022 Author Share #44 Posted July 29, 2022 Interplane struts, bracing wires, and top wing added. The bracing wire is done with EZ-Line, an elastic polymer that was originally designed for model railroaders to replicate utility lines. EZ-Line's saving grace is that you can glue one end, cut it just shy of the other attachment point, then stretch it to make the connection, after which it stays "taut" without actually exerting much tension force anywhere. Its downside is that it is very fussy about glues. I often have a devil of a time trying to get it to pick up just a tiny drop of CA to make a bond -- it just doesn't adhere well. Fortuitously, I discovered that, yet again, Evergreen Canopy Glue works well for the task. So, I have been using Evergreen for point-to-point connections and CA wherever I can wrap the line around its attachment point. For this construction sequence, I first glued the V-struts to their lower wings, then glued the lower wings to the fuselage. Next I added all of the interplane bracing, which is a much easier method (though not entirely pain-free) than doing it after the top wing is on. Once all the bracing was done, the top wing was added and voila! king derelict, Richard44, popeye the sailor and 18 others 12 4 5 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Bf 109E-7/trop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Black Posted July 29, 2022 Share #45 Posted July 29, 2022 That's so nice and clean. popeye the sailor, mtaylor, Old Collingwood and 9 others 12 Quote Current Builds: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted July 29, 2022 Share #46 Posted July 29, 2022 45 minutes ago, ccoyle said: For this construction sequence, I first glued the V-struts to their lower wings, then glued the lower wings to the fuselage. Next I added all of the interplane bracing, which is a much easier method (though not entirely pain-free) than doing it after the top wing is on. Once all the bracing was done, the top wing was added and voila! OK, how do you keep the interplane struts lined up so accurately? If you don't mind me askin' lmagna, popeye the sailor, Edwardkenway and 7 others 10 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJohnson Posted July 29, 2022 Share #47 Posted July 29, 2022 Thanks for the tip of using Canopy glue with EZ-Line, I also found it a devil to adhere to C-A, sometimes it just seems to recoil in horror and go curly when it gets near C-A. (But think that mostly happens when I over tension it.) I have a little project on the go that I will try that on, how long does it take to grab and hold as an 'anchor' before you can hold it taut, in your experience? mtaylor, Old Collingwood, Canute and 8 others 11 Quote Andrew Current builds:- HM Gun-brig Sparkler - Vanguard (1/64) , HMAV Bounty - Caldercraft (1/64) Completed (Kits):- Vanguard Models (1/64) :- HM Cutter Trial , Nisha - Brixham trawler Caldercraft (1/64) :- HMS Orestes(Mars), HM Cutter Sherbourne Paper Shipwright (1/250) :- TSS Earnslaw, Puffer Starlight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted July 29, 2022 Author Share #48 Posted July 29, 2022 4 hours ago, AJohnson said: how long does it take to grab and hold as an 'anchor' before you can hold it taut, in your experience? I should clarify. It doesn't grab well when under tension, so I can't anchor one end and then attach the other with canopy glue. But it does work well when attaching the first, non-tensioned end. It takes only a minute or so to set, but I usually brush a little bit extra onto the joint as a precaution and then let it set for several minutes while I work on something else. lmagna, Old Collingwood, Dave_E and 10 others 9 4 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Bf 109E-7/trop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted July 29, 2022 Author Share #49 Posted July 29, 2022 9 hours ago, Egilman said: OK, how do you keep the interplane struts lined up so accurately? If you don't mind me askin' Both the upper and lower wings have locator marks. The struts are wrapped around lengths of wire. I punch holes in the locator marks and trim the wire so that a locator pin is left -- just like a plastic model. 😁 lmagna, mtaylor, popeye the sailor and 9 others 10 2 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Bf 109E-7/trop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted July 29, 2022 Share #50 Posted July 29, 2022 Thanks Chris for the explanation, I assume your using wire that is stiff enough to hold position against the slight tension of the EZ line... Sometimes the simplest methods escape you... sorry.. king derelict, Dave_E, Edwardkenway and 10 others 13 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted July 30, 2022 Author Share #51 Posted July 30, 2022 The landing gear are now complete and sitting overnight to dry thoroughly. I will rig the bracing between the struts before attaching the gear to the fuselage. In the background you can see the completed horizontal stabilizer -- the empennage will go on after the gear have been attached, because I still have to turn the model upside down to do some work. Canute, Captain Slog, king derelict and 14 others 14 3 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Bf 109E-7/trop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted July 30, 2022 Share #52 Posted July 30, 2022 Amazing work, there are some outragiously good exponents of their art and talents in our site - I feel honoured to be here right now. OC. Edwardkenway, Egilman, Dave_E and 8 others 11 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danstream Posted July 30, 2022 Share #53 Posted July 30, 2022 (edited) Chris, please note that from now on I will not refer any longer to the fact that this is a card model. For me, this is a proper good scale model irrespective of which is the material it is made of (although this still amazes me 🙂). Great progress on your model, I love the struts and the wires arrangement (which is typical of a 'sesquiplane'). Kind regards, Dan Edited July 30, 2022 by Danstream Egilman, Dave_E, Jack12477 and 11 others 14 Quote Current build : Mayflower - AL 1:64, Lady Nelson - Amati Victory 1:64 Completed non-ship builds : Spitfire MK I - 1:48, Arado 196B - 1:32, Sea Fury - 1:48, F-15C Eagle - 1:48, Hawker Tempest Mk.V - 1:48, F104S Starfighter - 1:48 "The most effective way to do it, is to do it" - Amelia Earhart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted July 30, 2022 Author Share #54 Posted July 30, 2022 Shoes on! king derelict, Dave_E, Edwardkenway and 15 others 17 1 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Bf 109E-7/trop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted July 31, 2022 Author Share #55 Posted July 31, 2022 Last update for today. The empennage is on, but not braced. The engine is only test-fitted for this shot -- it's still incomplete. Ryland Craze, Captain Slog, king derelict and 17 others 20 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Bf 109E-7/trop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_E Posted July 31, 2022 Share #56 Posted July 31, 2022 I’m afaraid to ask how you built that motor and how long it took. 🫣 popeye the sailor, thibaultron, lmagna and 8 others 11 Quote Dave Current builds: Rattlesnake Completed builds: Lady Nelson On the shelf: NRG Half Hull Project, Various metal, plastic and paper models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted July 31, 2022 Author Share #57 Posted July 31, 2022 10 hours ago, Dave_E said: I’m afaraid to ask how you built that motor and how long it took. It's mostly paper tubes and not particularly difficult -- nothing compared to an 18-cylinder, twin-row radial in a Halinski kit. Keith Black, Old Collingwood, hof00 and 12 others 15 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Bf 109E-7/trop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted July 31, 2022 Share #58 Posted July 31, 2022 5 hours ago, ccoyle said: It's mostly paper tubes and not particularly difficult -- nothing compared to an 18-cylinder, twin-row radial in a Halinski kit. Ah.. so "difficult" is relative. king derelict, Paul Le Wol, Dave_E and 12 others 12 3 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted August 1, 2022 Author Share #59 Posted August 1, 2022 5 hours ago, mtaylor said: Ah.. so "difficult" is relative. That's part of why I like the KK kits so much. They've a good amount of detail without being insanely difficult to build. Edwardkenway, popeye the sailor, Old Collingwood and 8 others 11 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Bf 109E-7/trop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted August 1, 2022 Author Share #60 Posted August 1, 2022 Update: engine, cowl, and propeller completed, but will leave the final installation for later. Struts for horizontal stabilizer added, but no control wires yet. The last significant assembly to do will be the Lewis gun. Danstream, king derelict, Dave_E and 20 others 18 5 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Bf 109E-7/trop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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