Nieuport 11c.1 by ccoyle - FINISHED - Kartonowa Kolekcja - 1:33 - CARD

[ccoyle]

Finished rudder and wheels.

 

[ccoyle]

All control surfaces done and have started work on the cabane struts.

 

[Dave_E]

Sorry I’m late.

[ccoyle]

Test fit of top wing to cabane struts -- can't ask for a better initial fit. Feels quite solid.

 

[Canute]

Neat looking little kite, Chris.

[SigEp Ziggy]

Impressive, most impressive!

[Dave_E]

2 hours ago, SigEp Ziggy said:

Impressive, most impressive!

Did you say that out loud in your Darth Vader voice? 😆 Sorry, couldn’t resist. 

[AJohnson]

3 hours ago, Dave_E said:

Did you say that out loud in your Darth Vader voice? 😆 Sorry, couldn’t resist. 

Well there is something of the “force” being used in Chris’s paper builds. 

“Paper is the path to the dark side”…. 😉

[popeye the sailor]

looking great!  really nice progress  

[Jack12477]

@ccoyle Chris, what type of glue do you use in that applicator,  post #12 ? I found that applicator in my local Hobby Lobby, tried to use Elmers yellow wood glue and disaster. Glogged it up good. Spent an hour with good ole isopropyl cleaning it out.  Was intending to use it on my wood boat model. What glue(s)  do you recommend using with it.

 

Edited July 28, 2022 by Jack12477

[ccoyle]

56 minutes ago, Jack12477 said:

Chris, what type of glue do you use in that applicator,  post #12 ?

Evergreen Canopy Glue. Haven't tried any other glues with it.

[Egilman]

1 hour ago, ccoyle said:

Evergreen Canopy Glue. Haven't tried any other glues with it.

Never thought of using Evergreen with a syrette, that's a heck of an idea... Evergreen can be thinned quite well and as long as air doesn't get to it it doesn't dry out that much.... (unless you leave it sit for a year or two)...

[ccoyle]

I'm finding that canopy glue has many useful qualities for card models -- grabs quick, dries clear, and can be touched up with a damp brush or fingertip. The one fault I find is that it remains somewhat flexible after curing, so it is not entirely suitable for joints that require rigid connections. I used to use thinned PVA quite a bit, applied with a brush (messy!), but I've really taken a shine to using the canopy glue and applicator.

[ccoyle]

Interplane struts, bracing wires, and top wing added. The bracing wire is done with EZ-Line, an elastic polymer that was originally designed for model railroaders to replicate utility lines. EZ-Line's saving grace is that you can glue one end, cut it just shy of the other attachment point, then stretch it to make the connection, after which it stays "taut" without actually exerting much tension force anywhere. Its downside is that it is very fussy about glues. I often have a devil of a time trying to get it to pick up just a tiny drop of CA to make a bond -- it just doesn't adhere well. Fortuitously, I discovered that, yet again, Evergreen Canopy Glue works well for the task. So, I have been using Evergreen for point-to-point connections and CA wherever I can wrap the line around its attachment point.

 

For this construction sequence, I first glued the V-struts to their lower wings, then glued the lower wings to the fuselage. Next I added all of the interplane bracing, which is a much easier method (though not entirely pain-free) than doing it after the top wing is on. Once all the bracing was done, the top wing was added and voila!

 

[Keith Black]

That's so nice and clean. 

[Egilman]

45 minutes ago, ccoyle said:

For this construction sequence, I first glued the V-struts to their lower wings, then glued the lower wings to the fuselage. Next I added all of the interplane bracing, which is a much easier method (though not entirely pain-free) than doing it after the top wing is on. Once all the bracing was done, the top wing was added and voila!

OK, how do you keep the interplane struts lined up so accurately? If you don't mind me askin'

[AJohnson]

Thanks for the tip of using Canopy glue with EZ-Line, I also found it a devil to adhere to C-A, sometimes it just seems to recoil in horror and go curly when it gets near C-A.  (But think that mostly happens when I over tension it.)

 

I have a little project on the go that I will try that on, how long does it take to grab and hold as an 'anchor' before you can hold it taut, in your experience?

[ccoyle]

4 hours ago, AJohnson said:

how long does it take to grab and hold as an 'anchor' before you can hold it taut, in your experience?

 

I should clarify. It doesn't grab well when under tension, so I can't anchor one end and then attach the other with canopy glue. But it does work well when attaching the first, non-tensioned end. It takes only a minute or so to set, but I usually brush a little bit extra onto the joint as a precaution and then let it set for several minutes while I work on something else.

[ccoyle]

9 hours ago, Egilman said:

OK, how do you keep the interplane struts lined up so accurately? If you don't mind me askin'

 

Both the upper and lower wings have locator marks. The struts are wrapped around lengths of wire. I punch holes in the locator marks and trim the wire so that a locator pin is left -- just like a plastic model. 😁

[Egilman]

Thanks Chris for the explanation, I assume your using wire that is stiff enough to hold position against the slight tension of the EZ line...

 

Sometimes the simplest methods escape you... sorry..

[ccoyle]

The landing gear are now complete and sitting overnight to dry thoroughly. I will rig the bracing between the struts before attaching the gear to the fuselage. In the background you can see the completed horizontal stabilizer -- the empennage will go on after the gear have been attached, because I still have to turn the model upside down to do some work.

 

[Old Collingwood]

Amazing work,   there are some  outragiously good  exponents  of their  art and talents  in our site  - I feel  honoured to  be  here  right now.

 

OC.

[Danstream]

Chris,

please note that from now on I will not refer any longer to the fact that this is a card model. For me, this is a proper good scale model irrespective of which is the material it is made of (although this still amazes me 🙂). 

Great progress on your model, I love the struts and the wires arrangement (which is typical of a 'sesquiplane').

Kind regards,

Dan

Edited July 30, 2022 by Danstream

[ccoyle]

Shoes on!

 

[ccoyle]

Last update for today. The empennage is on, but not braced. The engine is only test-fitted for this shot -- it's still incomplete.

 

[Dave_E]

I’m afaraid to ask how you built that motor and how long it took. 🫣

[ccoyle]

10 hours ago, Dave_E said:

I’m afaraid to ask how you built that motor and how long it took.

 

It's mostly paper tubes and not particularly difficult -- nothing compared to an 18-cylinder, twin-row radial in a Halinski kit.

[mtaylor]

5 hours ago, ccoyle said:

 

It's mostly paper tubes and not particularly difficult -- nothing compared to an 18-cylinder, twin-row radial in a Halinski kit.

Ah.. so "difficult" is relative.

[ccoyle]

5 hours ago, mtaylor said:

Ah.. so "difficult" is relative.

 

That's part of why I like the KK kits so much. They've a good amount of detail without being insanely difficult to build.

[ccoyle]

Update: engine, cowl, and propeller completed, but will leave the final installation for later. Struts for horizontal stabilizer added, but no control wires yet. The last significant assembly to do will be the Lewis gun.