samueljr Posted November 6, 2013 #151 Posted November 6, 2013 Looks great Bob! Are you going to continue with the boxwood below the wales or switch to something different? With all the treenailing can I assume you'll be omitting the exterior painting and going for a more "styleized" version of ESSEX? Are you going to copper? Sam Quote ABSOLUTELY NOTHING UNDER DEVELOPMENT
j21896 Posted November 6, 2013 #152 Posted November 6, 2013 Typically beautiful Bob! What brand of wipe-on poly do you use? Cheers, Robert Quote Current Build: HMS Mars
Rustyj Posted November 6, 2013 #153 Posted November 6, 2013 Seeing some more of your fine work is a great way to start my day! Thanks. augie 1 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
patrickmil Posted November 6, 2013 #154 Posted November 6, 2013 Bob, your planking looks just as clean as always. Quote Thanks, Patrick YouTube Channel for fun: Patrick's Scale Studio Finished: Model Shipways US Brig Niagara I Love Kit USS Curtis Wilbur DDG-54 Current: Trumpeter USS Yorktown CV-5
augie Posted November 6, 2013 #155 Posted November 6, 2013 It is always a pleasure to admire your work. I marvel at the crisp nature of everything you do. SPECTACULAR! Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
rafine Posted November 6, 2013 Author #156 Posted November 6, 2013 You're much too kind, guys, but much appreciated. Sam, I am going to copper. I will use the boxwood for the visible portion of the planking below the wales, but the kit basswood for the part to be covered by the copper. My current intention is to leave the boxwood unpainted, except for the wales and possibly the counter. Robert, the Poly is Minwax. Bob Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
mathewp Posted November 7, 2013 #157 Posted November 7, 2013 I've looked at every page, and well worth it. Really like the framing. Spot on.Very nicely done Bob. Quote
Blue Ensign Posted November 7, 2013 #158 Posted November 7, 2013 Very nice work Bob, I would also vote for leaving the boxwood unpainted, it provides a wonderful contrast between the black wales, and perhaps a touch of colour on the topsides. It also echoes the look of those beautiful contemporary models of the Eighteenth Century, but whatever you decide she's going to be a fine model. B.E. augie 1 Quote Current Build: Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-1:64-scale HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation.
Gahm Posted November 7, 2013 #159 Posted November 7, 2013 Beautiful work, Bob! As always . . . Thomas Quote Current Built: Model Shipways Syren (US Brig 1803) Last Built: Anfora (kit bashed) Ictineo II (1st steam powered submarine 1864)
rafine Posted November 7, 2013 Author #160 Posted November 7, 2013 Thanks, guys. This is one on which all of your encouragement has really helped to push me along. Bob Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
Trussben Posted November 7, 2013 #161 Posted November 7, 2013 Got to agree Bob, coming along very nicely. Ben Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
cookster Posted November 7, 2013 #162 Posted November 7, 2013 Looking good Bob! You and Augie both are flying right along.... Looking forward to you planking the lower hull, hope I'll learn something... Quote Wes Cook Current Build: USF Constitution (Model Shipways) USF Essex (Scratch build) MS Syren (build log lost, need to rebuild) Future Builds: MS Confederacy
augie Posted November 7, 2013 #163 Posted November 7, 2013 Me too. Sjors 1 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
Sjors Posted November 8, 2013 #164 Posted November 8, 2013 Hi Bob, I'm just watching your planking and that looks AWASOME !!!!!!!! When i see this ,I have not the nerve anymore to post pictures...... This smooth and clean....unbelieveble ! Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
gjdale Posted November 8, 2013 #165 Posted November 8, 2013 Great work Bob. You're really hustling along there. Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout
rafine Posted November 9, 2013 Author #166 Posted November 9, 2013 Thanks to all for the nice thoughts. The planking has gone pretty smoothly -- so far. Bob Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
rafine Posted November 11, 2013 Author #167 Posted November 11, 2013 I've now done the starboard wale and also some of the stern planking. I planked the counters and a portion of the transom area, but not around the stern windows. I'm not going to do that portion for a while yet (until I figure out what I'm doing). I then painted the wales. In order to simplify the masking and painting, I had painted the upper edge of the top strake planks before installing them. I used Pollyscale engine black, which unfortunately is no longer going to be available as the line has been discontinued. I'll miss the paints and need to start thinking about alternatives. Time now to do the lower hull planking. Bob realworkingsailor, CaptainSteve, Blue Ensign and 16 others 19 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
Mirabell61 Posted November 11, 2013 #168 Posted November 11, 2013 excellant good neat work Bob I`ll watch the "Essex" on her way... Nils Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50
augie Posted November 11, 2013 #169 Posted November 11, 2013 Thanks for the 'reminder' about painting the edge of the wales before installation. Just about there myself. That transom framing looks, well.......perfect. Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
ScottRC Posted November 11, 2013 #170 Posted November 11, 2013 (edited) Bob, I must chime in that the Essex is one of my favorite ships so I have been quite interested in your build. Very nice job, looks like you have overcome the framing issues? I also was a fan of the Floquil Polyscale line of locomotive paints. I have just a little bit left of Engine Black and Refer Brown was a great basecoat for simulating walnut. I also liked the reds and greens and all the paints behaved well on sealed wood. They also accepted washes with oil based paints and turpentine. One alternative I have been using is the Americana line of craft acrylics. They seem to have large array of colors that were like what was available from Floquil. The only drawback is that they will not adhere to a smooth polycoat surface, so a primer, such as Tamiya's Mr. Surfacer, would have to be put on or if its a sealed wood surface, sanded, and the paint given a topcoat sealant before I could do the oil washes. Look forward to seeing more! Scott Edited November 11, 2013 by ScottRC Quote Current Builds: Revell 1:96 Thermopylae Restoration Revell 1:96 Constitution COMPLETED Aeropiccola HMS Endeavor IN ORDINARY Planned Builds: Scientific Sea Witch Marine Models USF Essex
rafine Posted November 11, 2013 Author #171 Posted November 11, 2013 Thanks, Nils, Augie and Scott. Scott, only the completion of the planking will tell if the framing issues were successfully overcome. With regard to the Pollyscale, I foresee a lot of paint testing in the future. Bob. Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
mtaylor Posted November 12, 2013 #172 Posted November 12, 2013 Bob, Looking super... I'll keep my fingers crossed that the framing issues were solved. augie 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
sport29652 Posted November 12, 2013 #173 Posted November 12, 2013 Wow! Quote Eric Current build(s) ; AL San Francisco II http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/862-san-francisco-2-by-eric-al-190-sport29652/ MS Rattlesnake http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/868-rattlesnake-by-eric-model-shipways-164-sport29652/page-2 Sitting on the shelf : MS Constitution, MS Sultana, Wish List : MS Essex, Confederacy, and Syren, and a Victory kit by someone ? "80% of the time it works every time."
aliluke Posted November 12, 2013 #174 Posted November 12, 2013 Hi Bob Even with the qualities of boxwood the accuracy of your planking is amazing. I'd like to sit alongside you and see how you do that so neatly. Great work, masterful. Cheers Alistair augie 1 Quote Cheers Alistair Current Build - HMS Fly by aliluke - Victory Models - 1/64 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34180-hms-fly-by-aliluke-victory-models-164/ Previous Build - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log)
rafine Posted November 12, 2013 Author #175 Posted November 12, 2013 Thanks Mark, Sport and Alistair. It's funny Alistair, but I always get the same feeling looking at your work. Thanks again. Bob Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
Blue Ensign Posted November 12, 2013 #176 Posted November 12, 2013 Very nice work on the stern transom Bob, and a very fine planking job B.E. Quote Current Build: Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-1:64-scale HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation.
rafine Posted November 12, 2013 Author #177 Posted November 12, 2013 Thanks B.E. Your Pegasus is a tough act to follow. Bob Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
rafine Posted November 16, 2013 Author #178 Posted November 16, 2013 A big step forward. The lower hull planking on the port side has been done. This was the big test for the success of the trial and error correction process on the hull framing. With no more than a couple of the usual very slight adjustments to the framing, the planking went on smoothly. A big sigh of relief. I did change my plans somewhat. For a variety of reasons, I decided not to do the area below the wales and above the copper in natural boxwood. That area will now be painted black. As a result, I did the entire lower hull with basswood planking. I also concluded that my only goals were to finish with a well faired hull with a smooth surface. This led me to cover the framing with what can only be described as a patch work of crazy quilt planking, rather than following strict prototype planking patterns. This allowed me to cover the area rather quickly and easily. After a lot of sanding (sandpaper is your good friend) and even some use of filler (ugh!), I was quite pleased with the result and see no reason to do the other side any differently. The starboard planking will be the next step. Bob mtbediz, BETAQDAVE, freewheelinguy and 12 others 15 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
cookster Posted November 16, 2013 #179 Posted November 16, 2013 WOW Bob, didn't expect to see a planked hull! You and Augie are picking 'em up and putting 'em down! (old American expression from the CB radio days, it means your speeding while driving) Looks really good! Quote Wes Cook Current Build: USF Constitution (Model Shipways) USF Essex (Scratch build) MS Syren (build log lost, need to rebuild) Future Builds: MS Confederacy
augie Posted November 16, 2013 #180 Posted November 16, 2013 BIG congratulations on the validation of your framing efforts. She's starting to look 'Rafined'. You've even made ME happy!!!!! Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
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