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Hello there MSW, I’m finally resettled in the Pacific Northwest. I’m missing my custom built model cabin back in Ontario,  but to get back in the swing of model building I thought about how much I enjoyed doing that Fiat 806, so have picked up another Italeri kit, the vintage Triumph 3HW motorcycle. It’s been done here before and I enjoyed the fine work by CDW on his rendition. 
I'm going to start off with some preliminary assembly of the engine and wheels while I wait for some paint and other supplies to make it out our way on Vancouver Island. My general goal will be to add a few custom details, play around with paint effects and weathering, but nothing definite yet. Not sure if I will go with the military look or not.  I tend towards an organic approach to my models, which is a fancy way of saying I don’t really know what I’m doing. Think I’ll attempt a wheel spoke rebuild, to add a little finesse, hope not to make a hash of that. 

 

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Tim Moore

Perfect is the enemy of good


In progress

DH.9a Ninak, 1/32, Wingnut Wings

Docked for Repairs

IJN Pre-Dreadnought Battleship Mikasa, 1:200, Hobby Boss
On Deck
The Blue Sky Company, 1:48, Sierra West Models

Completed  

Triumph 3HW, 1/9, Italeri; Fiat 806 Grand Prix 1:12, Italeri; Fifie 1:32, Amati Victory Model; HMS Bounty 1:48, Artesania Latina; Endeavour 1:60; Corel; Miss Severn 1:8, Legend Model Boats; Calypso, Billing Boats; Carmen Fishing Trawler, A.L. ; Dallas Revenue Cutter, A.L., Bluenose, A.L.

Posted

Thanks Alan, Patrick, Yves and all those who have checked in. It is good to be back modelling after a year of moving and working on the new house.

Started on the wheels. There are 20 spokes on each half, making a total of 80 for the two wheels. That means I need 160 holes located with some precision around the 4 hubs and outer rims, so I can knit the wire spokes into the plastic. I made an indent in the hub using a tiny steel awl, then used a 1/64 bit in my dremel. It’s careful work, especially on the two smaller hubs. I then snipped off most of the plastic spokes at the rim, leaving 5 to keep the hubs centred while I go about installing the wire. I left the inner part of the plastic spokes intact for now, they gave me an alignment guide when I drilled the rims in terms of direction of the holes, and will help me get the first wires in the right holes. After I get a few wires in place and the hub is stable, I’ll cut everything away. That’s the theory anyway.

I will be using some 0.5mm wire I have for the new spokes. Seems a bit thin perhaps but after looking at photos of real bikes it may be pretty close to scale.


Now that I’ve started this and see what’s ahead, I’m considering awarding my bronze medal for modeling insanity to wheel spoke replacement, the gold having already gone to ‘rigging a three masted ship’ and silver to ‘neurosurgery with Pontos microscopic photo etch’. I’ve a feeling Chris Coyle might say the origami paper folding in his card modeling would knock one of those out of the medals, but I’ve never done a card kit. 
Have to leave the wheels for a bit until supplies arrive next week, as I realize I should paint the rim and hubs before the new spokes go in. So I’ll leave them in abeyance and start on some engine assemblies.

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Tim Moore

Perfect is the enemy of good


In progress

DH.9a Ninak, 1/32, Wingnut Wings

Docked for Repairs

IJN Pre-Dreadnought Battleship Mikasa, 1:200, Hobby Boss
On Deck
The Blue Sky Company, 1:48, Sierra West Models

Completed  

Triumph 3HW, 1/9, Italeri; Fiat 806 Grand Prix 1:12, Italeri; Fifie 1:32, Amati Victory Model; HMS Bounty 1:48, Artesania Latina; Endeavour 1:60; Corel; Miss Severn 1:8, Legend Model Boats; Calypso, Billing Boats; Carmen Fishing Trawler, A.L. ; Dallas Revenue Cutter, A.L., Bluenose, A.L.

Posted (edited)

I have used bug pins with success. These are the long and thin pins used to display bugs on boards.

Using wire, I do not think you can get anything stiff enough to work.

 

Below is what I did on my Honda CB750 (1/6th scale): Left is the reworked wheel, right is the kit wheel.

 

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Yves

 

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Posted
2 hours ago, yvesvidal said:

I have used bug pins with success. These are the long and thin pins used to display bugs on boards.

Using wire, I do not think you can get anything stiff enough to work.

 

Below is what I did on my Honda CB750 (1/6th scale): Left is the reworked wheel, right is the kit wheel.

 

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Yves

 

Thanks Yves that’s a good solution. I think the wire I have should work, it’s really just thin wire rods. If it isn’t stiff enough or looks too fragile I have something slightly thicker I can use.

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Tim Moore

Perfect is the enemy of good


In progress

DH.9a Ninak, 1/32, Wingnut Wings

Docked for Repairs

IJN Pre-Dreadnought Battleship Mikasa, 1:200, Hobby Boss
On Deck
The Blue Sky Company, 1:48, Sierra West Models

Completed  

Triumph 3HW, 1/9, Italeri; Fiat 806 Grand Prix 1:12, Italeri; Fifie 1:32, Amati Victory Model; HMS Bounty 1:48, Artesania Latina; Endeavour 1:60; Corel; Miss Severn 1:8, Legend Model Boats; Calypso, Billing Boats; Carmen Fishing Trawler, A.L. ; Dallas Revenue Cutter, A.L., Bluenose, A.L.

Posted

Wheel spoking in progress after finally getting my supplies. I’m using 0.5mm wire rods and short stubs of 0.8mm brass tube to create some sort of nipples at the rim. Remnants of the plastic spokes remain to hold the hub on centre and guide me on location and alignment, easy to screw this up otherwise I would think. 
I’m ignoring the assembly sequence of the model in the directions and have put together all the main components of the frame, so I can paint it distinctly from the body parts. Hopefully I can shoehorn everything on board later on. I’ve sprayed on a base coat of black to begin with. 
 

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Tim Moore

Perfect is the enemy of good


In progress

DH.9a Ninak, 1/32, Wingnut Wings

Docked for Repairs

IJN Pre-Dreadnought Battleship Mikasa, 1:200, Hobby Boss
On Deck
The Blue Sky Company, 1:48, Sierra West Models

Completed  

Triumph 3HW, 1/9, Italeri; Fiat 806 Grand Prix 1:12, Italeri; Fifie 1:32, Amati Victory Model; HMS Bounty 1:48, Artesania Latina; Endeavour 1:60; Corel; Miss Severn 1:8, Legend Model Boats; Calypso, Billing Boats; Carmen Fishing Trawler, A.L. ; Dallas Revenue Cutter, A.L., Bluenose, A.L.

Posted

I've been looking at this kit so I'd like to follow along. I have 2023 Triumph Bonneville and I was wondering if I could adapt it to make a Bonny instead of the 3HW. There doesn't seem to be any Bonny model kits out there that I can see. Great job on the spoking.

Cheers,

James.

 

Current Builds

Microaces Scrappee Liaison Radio Controlled

Occre Polaris 1/50

Hong Kong Models 1/32 B25 J Mitchell

 

Completed 

Airfix Westland Sea King HU.5 1/48

Airfix Supermarine Spitfire Mk.IXc 1/24

Airfix Avro Lancaster B.III (SPECIAL) 'THE DAMBUSTERS' 1/72 

Airfix Titanic 1/400

Airfix King Tiger 1/35

 

In the hangar, dockyard or factory 

Airfix Fairey Gannet AS.1/AS.4 1/48, Airfix North American P-51D, Mustang 1/48, Airfix Supermarine Spitfire FR Mk.XIV 1/48, Airfix MGB 1/32, ICM Gloster Gladiator 1/32, 5 Airfix Tanks, Airfix Blackburn Buccaneer S.2 C/D 1/48, Artesania Latina Zuiderzee Botter 1912 1/50, Airfix WWII British Army 30-cwt 4x2 GS Truck 1/35

Posted
9 hours ago, chadwijm6 said:

I've been looking at this kit so I'd like to follow along. I have 2023 Triumph Bonneville and I was wondering if I could adapt it to make a Bonny instead of the 3HW. There doesn't seem to be any Bonny model kits out there that I can see. Great job on the spoking.

Hi James and thanks. Funny you mentioning the Bonneville, I’m actually using a photo of a Bonneville VE Day commemorative bike as a visual reference for my build. Not trying to replicate it, just the general look of it. Certainly very similar though. Design has stood the test of time.

Tim

Tim Moore

Perfect is the enemy of good


In progress

DH.9a Ninak, 1/32, Wingnut Wings

Docked for Repairs

IJN Pre-Dreadnought Battleship Mikasa, 1:200, Hobby Boss
On Deck
The Blue Sky Company, 1:48, Sierra West Models

Completed  

Triumph 3HW, 1/9, Italeri; Fiat 806 Grand Prix 1:12, Italeri; Fifie 1:32, Amati Victory Model; HMS Bounty 1:48, Artesania Latina; Endeavour 1:60; Corel; Miss Severn 1:8, Legend Model Boats; Calypso, Billing Boats; Carmen Fishing Trawler, A.L. ; Dallas Revenue Cutter, A.L., Bluenose, A.L.

Posted
1 hour ago, Tim Moore said:

Hi James and thanks. Funny you mentioning the Bonneville, I’m actually using a photo of a Bonneville VE Day commemorative bike as a visual reference for my build. Not trying to replicate it, just the general look of it. Certainly very similar though. Design has stood the test of time.

Tim

It really has

 

Here's mine, had Ninja's and various others but there's just something brilliant about this bike.

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Cheers,

James.

 

Current Builds

Microaces Scrappee Liaison Radio Controlled

Occre Polaris 1/50

Hong Kong Models 1/32 B25 J Mitchell

 

Completed 

Airfix Westland Sea King HU.5 1/48

Airfix Supermarine Spitfire Mk.IXc 1/24

Airfix Avro Lancaster B.III (SPECIAL) 'THE DAMBUSTERS' 1/72 

Airfix Titanic 1/400

Airfix King Tiger 1/35

 

In the hangar, dockyard or factory 

Airfix Fairey Gannet AS.1/AS.4 1/48, Airfix North American P-51D, Mustang 1/48, Airfix Supermarine Spitfire FR Mk.XIV 1/48, Airfix MGB 1/32, ICM Gloster Gladiator 1/32, 5 Airfix Tanks, Airfix Blackburn Buccaneer S.2 C/D 1/48, Artesania Latina Zuiderzee Botter 1912 1/50, Airfix WWII British Army 30-cwt 4x2 GS Truck 1/35

Posted

The first side of one wheel successfully re spoked, so 3 more to do. Should look ok with some touch ups. 

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Tim Moore

Perfect is the enemy of good


In progress

DH.9a Ninak, 1/32, Wingnut Wings

Docked for Repairs

IJN Pre-Dreadnought Battleship Mikasa, 1:200, Hobby Boss
On Deck
The Blue Sky Company, 1:48, Sierra West Models

Completed  

Triumph 3HW, 1/9, Italeri; Fiat 806 Grand Prix 1:12, Italeri; Fifie 1:32, Amati Victory Model; HMS Bounty 1:48, Artesania Latina; Endeavour 1:60; Corel; Miss Severn 1:8, Legend Model Boats; Calypso, Billing Boats; Carmen Fishing Trawler, A.L. ; Dallas Revenue Cutter, A.L., Bluenose, A.L.

Posted

Thank you for the detailed description of the process...

Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale

In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale

Completed: M8A1 HST  1930 Packard Boattail Speedster  M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer  F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C

Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433  F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale

Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter

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Posted

Wheels look 100x better.  Nice job!

Mike

 

Current Wooden builds:  Amati/Victory Pegasus  MS Charles W. Morgan  Euromodel La Renommèe  

 

Plastic builds:    Hs129B-2 1/48  SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48  Five Star Yaeyama 1/700  Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama  Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700  Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32   IJN Notoro 1/700  Akitsu Maru 1/700

 

Completed builds :  Caldercraft Brig Badger   Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle  Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700   Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350

F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72  Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48  Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48  Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48  Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72

Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya  Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16

 

Terminated build:  HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn)  

 

On the shelf:  Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits

 

Future potential scratch builds:  HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans)

Posted
11 hours ago, shipman said:

Splendid rendition of your spoked wheels; what did you use as spoke nipples?

Features such as these really make or break a model and can distract from a host of other issues. Much like the small boats on a ship model.

Thanks for sharing.

Thanks Shipman; for the nipples I used some tiny brass tube that is 0.6mm inside diameter, which just fits around the 0.5mm wire rods I’m using for spokes. Basically after drilling the holes in the hub and rim, I cut a length of wire rod, bend the end to go through the hole in the hub, and then slide the brass rod down the outside end of wire, through the rim, apply a dab of CA to fix it, and then cut off the excess rod and tube outside the rim. 

Tim Moore

Perfect is the enemy of good


In progress

DH.9a Ninak, 1/32, Wingnut Wings

Docked for Repairs

IJN Pre-Dreadnought Battleship Mikasa, 1:200, Hobby Boss
On Deck
The Blue Sky Company, 1:48, Sierra West Models

Completed  

Triumph 3HW, 1/9, Italeri; Fiat 806 Grand Prix 1:12, Italeri; Fifie 1:32, Amati Victory Model; HMS Bounty 1:48, Artesania Latina; Endeavour 1:60; Corel; Miss Severn 1:8, Legend Model Boats; Calypso, Billing Boats; Carmen Fishing Trawler, A.L. ; Dallas Revenue Cutter, A.L., Bluenose, A.L.

Posted

One wheel assembly completed with the 40 steel spokes…should add interest to the model. Replaced the inflation nipple with a bit of leftover brass from Mikasa, and painted the spoke nipples around the rim. They looked kind of cool left as brass but I think painted is a probably a little more realistic. Overall I’m quite happy with the outcome as opposed to the plastic version.

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Tim Moore

Perfect is the enemy of good


In progress

DH.9a Ninak, 1/32, Wingnut Wings

Docked for Repairs

IJN Pre-Dreadnought Battleship Mikasa, 1:200, Hobby Boss
On Deck
The Blue Sky Company, 1:48, Sierra West Models

Completed  

Triumph 3HW, 1/9, Italeri; Fiat 806 Grand Prix 1:12, Italeri; Fifie 1:32, Amati Victory Model; HMS Bounty 1:48, Artesania Latina; Endeavour 1:60; Corel; Miss Severn 1:8, Legend Model Boats; Calypso, Billing Boats; Carmen Fishing Trawler, A.L. ; Dallas Revenue Cutter, A.L., Bluenose, A.L.

Posted

Great modelling, the spoked wheel looks like the real thing. 

Following your build with interest,

Dan

Current build : Mayflower - AL 1:64Lady Nelson - Amati Victory 1:64

Completed non-ship builds : Spitfire MK I - 1:48Arado 196B - 1:32, Sea Fury - 1:48F-15C Eagle - 1:48Hawker Tempest Mk.V - 1:48F104S Starfighter - 1:48

 

"The most effective way to do it, is to do it" - Amelia Earhart

  • 2 months later...
Posted

Ok after a disgraceful delay due to work priorities I finally have gotten back to the Triumph and remembered what I was doing.
I now have two very nice looking wire spoked wheels. The method of leaving a few plastic spokes in place and working your way around the wheel replacing them worked very well, the final wheel remained true and the hub centred. You have to take a little care to keep the correct spoke pattern, but not that difficult once you get your sequence going. One key piece of advice I would have is to make sure the two wheel rim sides are strongly welded together using CA before trying to mount the rubber. Learned that the usual hard way. 
I assembled all the frame tubing and airbrushed it a metallic black, followed by a satin spray to dull it down a bit. I’ll probably do the body components another colour. Mounted the engine, will add some more finish detail with it in place.
 

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Tim Moore

Perfect is the enemy of good


In progress

DH.9a Ninak, 1/32, Wingnut Wings

Docked for Repairs

IJN Pre-Dreadnought Battleship Mikasa, 1:200, Hobby Boss
On Deck
The Blue Sky Company, 1:48, Sierra West Models

Completed  

Triumph 3HW, 1/9, Italeri; Fiat 806 Grand Prix 1:12, Italeri; Fifie 1:32, Amati Victory Model; HMS Bounty 1:48, Artesania Latina; Endeavour 1:60; Corel; Miss Severn 1:8, Legend Model Boats; Calypso, Billing Boats; Carmen Fishing Trawler, A.L. ; Dallas Revenue Cutter, A.L., Bluenose, A.L.

Posted

Splendid work!

 

It was common practice with British military vehicles, (including motorcycles) that just about all metal components were painted the same colour, olive or khaki, including engine, rims, hubs and spokes.

There was no 'bright work', the exhaust system would be black.

Posted

Haha thanks Shipman and CDW, appreciate both viewpoints! 

Tim Moore

Perfect is the enemy of good


In progress

DH.9a Ninak, 1/32, Wingnut Wings

Docked for Repairs

IJN Pre-Dreadnought Battleship Mikasa, 1:200, Hobby Boss
On Deck
The Blue Sky Company, 1:48, Sierra West Models

Completed  

Triumph 3HW, 1/9, Italeri; Fiat 806 Grand Prix 1:12, Italeri; Fifie 1:32, Amati Victory Model; HMS Bounty 1:48, Artesania Latina; Endeavour 1:60; Corel; Miss Severn 1:8, Legend Model Boats; Calypso, Billing Boats; Carmen Fishing Trawler, A.L. ; Dallas Revenue Cutter, A.L., Bluenose, A.L.

Posted

Wonder if this  pic  I  shot  at an airshow  some  years  back  might  help,  I ts a different   bike  but similar.

 

OC.

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28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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