Licorne 1755 by mtaylor - 3/16" scale - French Frigate - from Hahn plans - Version 2.0 - TERMINATED

[BANYAN]

Nice progress Mark - better do it mate - no arguing with she whom  must be obeyed

 

cheers

 

Pat

[Omega1234]

Lovely work, Mark! SWMBO must be pretty tough on you, but...Janet didn't earn the title for nothing. Best to obey...! UNLESS.....

 

Cheers Patrick

[src]

Well done Mark, how long until she comes off the board?

Sam

[popeye the sailor]

looking good Mark........well,  at least if there are stairwells,  they will appear planked at the bottom       very hard to go against admiral's orders.....not unless you want to get keelhauled.    she'll have to come out of the jig soon anyway..........unless you plan on doing the outer planking fixed in place.

 

seriously Mark........super job!

[mtaylor]

Thanks everyone.

 

Sam, she'll come off probably after this deck is done.  I fear waiting until the forecastle and quarter deck are done will risk some damage.  I have a work cradle designed but not built.   Having said that... there's really nothing stopping me at this point from taking it off now.   Must rethink and be logical and rational...  

 

Denis, 

There's 2 ladders (one officer and one crew) that are under the quarterdeck.   One open but under the boat on the gundeck and another under the forecastle.  There there's he two from the quaterdeck/gangways to the gundeck.   The ol' gundeck is going to be a busy place soon.

[michael mott]

Nice work Mark, you must be looking forward to getting her out of that straight jacket.

 

Michael

[Salty Sea Dog]

Really nice work! The photos are really nice too. It's almost like standing in the real ship!

[Bill Hime]

The best laid plans of mice and men... an Admiralty meeting.  We discussed progress and plans then "if I can't see it, why do it?  You'll save a couple of months, right?".   "Err.. yes.  But I want to do it because it's there.  I'll know it."  Well, so much for argument.  It's her ship and I'll do it.  

 

 

Lol, boy are we cut from the same cloth! She's right, they usually are . Beautiful work Mark!

 

Question; How tight does the framework sit in that jig and at what point do you to remove it?

 

 

Bill

 

(Hmmm, didn't "quote that right..)

Edited October 14, 2016 by Bill Hime

[mtaylor]

Thanks for looking in, the comments and the "likes".

 

As this is being written, waterways are going in and the center deck, carlings for the hatchways, and the center thickstuff areas are being marked out.  Still thinking of pre-cutting the planking on the Deathstar instead of shaping each plank by hand.

 

Micheal,

 

I want her out, but have very mixed feelings with a fear that I'll break something while still working on the hull.    I think I need to suck it up and do it after this deck.  

 

 

Bill,

It's a pretty tight fit but it's also glued with PVA into the frame.   I'll be following Hahn's lead on this and cutting the frames as close to the line of the top rails as possible and then sanding, filing, making a mess, etc. as needed.   I'm thinking it's easier to cut it free than try to undo 120 frame joints (60 frames times 2 futtocks holding it in place)  using isopropyl.

[cog]

You could always have a go at those frames with your deathstar ... very neat cut so to say Just burn those b**** off ...(sorry I'll go back to my corner)

[Bill Hime]

Okay, so I have to ask; What is this "Deathstar" that you speak of? As a Jedi, I have some concerns here.

 

 

Bill

[Jack12477]

Bill Hime, I believe it's his laser cutter.

[mtaylor]

Indeed Bill, it's my laser cutter.   Greg the peg leg sailor (If my brain remembers correctly) started calling it the Deathstar and the name has stuck. 

 

Edit: Yes, it was Greg after I speculated that maybe I could build a death star after upgrading the tube...  

Edited October 15, 2016 by mtaylor

[cog]

 

Edit: Yes, it was Greg after I speculated that maybe I could build a death star after upgrading the tube...

 

Which you did, and now you are stuck with a killer power tool ...

[mtaylor]

Minor update to show that all is not folly and folderol...  

 

The waterways are completely in and the beams marked with the centerline, the carling locations for hatches and mast partners, and also for the line where the center thick stuff will end and the normal deck planking begins.  (See the first photo).

 

I also ran a test using cutoffs from the beams, I made a "fixture" for lack of a better word.   I cut some 1/8" cherry and tacked it to the beams to see if there's any issues using the laser to cut the planking.  Nope... even leaves a nice black line for the caulking (see the last two photos) and with care, I should have some better planking than if I tried to sand/plane in the taper, etc. .  Also there's a bit of waterway to show the profile.  

 

Tomorrow (or however long it takes) will be devoted to cutting and fitting the carlings.

 

 

[Omega1234]

Hi Mark

 

A minor update, but it shows just how useful the Death Star is for you. I bet there are no regrets in buying it.

 

Also, silly question time - but how did you do the profile for the waterway plank?

 

Cheers

 

Patrick

[Vivian Galad]

It´s great to see such a progress! Nicely done. Precious to be back and follow you work, Mark!

[mtaylor]

Patrick,

 

I used a ball mill and the mill with my fixture for doing profiles.   I think I posted this once before but here it is again.

 

 

 

Hi Vivian,

 

Thanks for the comment and it's great to see you back.  I hope you can get back to your models.

[ggrieco]

Looking good Mark. Can't wait to see all the carlings in place!

Edited October 16, 2016 by ggrieco

[BANYAN]

Very nice clean work Mark; that mill jig looks quite useful for several purposes other than profiling also.

 

The waterways look good in-situ and the careful marking out and the plank profiles will add a lot of very nice detail.

 

cheers

 

Pat

[mtaylor]

Thanks for the comments and "likes".   I have the mast partners cut out and the wood ripped to size for the carlings.  Now start fitting them.   As side note, i'm only doing the carlings along the center for the hatches and to provide a landing place for the partners.  These are supposition based on cross-section and the way the French did their hatchways.  

[popeye the sailor]

looking really sweet Mark........although you do seem to have a cracked frame there.   an little glue and a clamp,  and it'll be good as new      I guess it's good she's still in her cradle.    that laser cutter is getting pretty handy......very nice!

[Jim Lad]

Just catching up after being away for a while, Mark.  She's coming along very nicely.

 

John

[mtaylor]

Denis,

 

I'm not worried about the cracked frame as it will be cut down the planking level.  Thanks for keeping an eye on things. 

[mtaylor]

John, 

The pantry, as such, is more like a closet, I think.  I'll have to do some more digging on this.    I'm planning on full masts and rigging.  Hahn cut down some of the yards as he didn't believe the NMM drawings were right.  Yet, the Le Venus had yards that size but later in the period.  But instead of rigging it like Le Venus, I've been advised that the rigging on Belle Poule would be more correct.   

[mtaylor]

 Thank you for following along on this adventure and for the comments and "likes"....

 

Update weekend...

 

I've added the carlings where there will be a hatchway or ladderway.  Since the French laid their planks and then put the coamings ontop of the deck planking, the carlings will seen.   I've also added the mast partners, the capstan partner (I think that's the right term) and have started making bits and pieces while sorting out the deck planking.   The officer's ladder from the gundeck to the lower deck can be seen laying on the beams, the crew's ladders are in work and both fit in between the main mast partner and the oven on the lower deck.    I was 1/16th of an inch off on the making of the various deck pieces and planning the centerline planking (thick stuff).  It should be 3/32" of an inch instead of the 1/8" I mentioned previously... a miscalculation on my part.  I left the mizzen mast partner at the thicker size to better fit the pantry around it.   

 

Pictures show things ready for the next step.  The second picture is just a reference shot with dummy masts and the capstan in place to get an idea of things...  

 

 

 

 

As always, comments, corrections, and critiques are welcome. I'm still learning this art...

 

[Jim Lad]

"I'm still learning this art​" - aren't we all, Mark!  ​  Looking good, mate!

 

John

[Omega1234]

Hey Mark

 

I think you're too modest, because we're learning just as much, or even more, from you. Mighty fine work as always!

 

BTW, 1/8th of an inch is well within my comfort zone! In fact, it's not even worth breaking a sweat over it

[mtaylor]

Patrick,

 

The 1/8th inch is real measurement and not scale.  At scale the difference is about 4".  

[cog]

What's a mere 4" on your scale ... a measly 1/8". Well you have always been a big spender, haven't you now ... It is looking great, I see the Deathstar hasn't passed by the timbers yet. Better to find out the mistake than not at all. At least you can correct it from hereon. As long as you make the mistakes, we do not have to make them, although, we still might