HMS Victory by guraus - scale 1:48 - plank on frame

[Fortres]

In 1805 during Trafalgar, a ship had a row of substantial differences, from that is shown today.

Here sketch  of Joseph Mallord William Turner(1775‑1851), that is drawn in December 1805  abovedeck ship in Portsmouth.

 

Pay attention to :

-taken off beakhead;
- ladders on pop-deck;
- steering wheel and binnacle(naktouz);
-small cannons on rails of pop-deck;
ladder in a "admiral" hatch, going along with a starboard.

In addition, 1803 to the Starboard Side Entrance Port looked so.

 

 

And on the picture of the same Joseph Mallord William Turner "Trafalgar battle" he in general is not shown.As well as on the sketches of December, 1805.

 

Konstantin.

[norriro]

I said I would avoid any more comments on this subject, but I had never seen Konstantin's photos, which are priceless. The one showing the top of the stem and a mock bowsprit is very telling. If this dates to the moment the round bow was about to be removed, then the decking shown, is clearly very old and comparable in age to the lower deck planking, which is the only original planking left today on the Victory. I don't think it can not be the upper deck planking but rather the original platform, because the top of the stem where the bowsprit sits is around 15 inches above the deck (see Bugler plan), while the platform as seen in the photo taken from Longbridge (The Anatomy of Nelson's Ships) is only a few inches below the bowsprit, which appears also to be the case in Konstantin's photo. In addition, the planking above the level of the decking looks more recent, and appears to be the inner side of the round bow added after 1805. If you take Longbridge's photo and tag on a layer above to close in the bow up to the poop, you have the set up in Konstantin's photo. If I'm wrong then the inner planking shown must correspond to the level of the wale and the platform was then yet to be reinstalled.

[Fortres]

Photo kindly Rob(http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/732 - hms - victory - by - rob - g - caldercraft - jotika - 1805 - version/) gave me.
A cylinder instead of bowsprit is a "technological template", for prevention of breakage of недгедсов during the reconstruction (of недгедсы were lost and transferable layouts.
Farther more the template of bowsprit was replaced by a bowsprit from a metallic pipe

 

 

 

 

[Fortres]

Gary,
from where this photo ?

 

on him shown not H.M.S. Victory.
Pay attention to nasal figure.
However, the same dock in that in 1922 stood H.M.S. Victory.

Konstantin

[garyshipwright]

Hi Konstantin.

 

Sorry sir but I can not remember were on the interenet that it came from. Doing some primary research on the round bow and came across it.

 

Gary

[Jeronimo]

Hi Alexandru.

 

Impeccable work, just outstanding!!!!!!

Congratulations

Sehr gute Arbeit.

Karl

[amateur]

Konstantin,

 

According to wikipedia, Gary's picture shows the 'Duke of Wellington'

 

Jan

[Kevin]

Gary,

from where this photo ?

 

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on him shown not H.M.S. Victory.

Pay attention to nasal figure.

However, the same dock in that in 1922 stood H.M.S. Victory.

 

Konstantin

what are the three funnel type objects on the upper deck

Edited June 17, 2013 by Kevin

[Kevin]

the pictue is shown here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Duke_of_Wellington_(1852)

[guraus]

As I am closing in on completing the lower deck framing, I wanted to do one anchor cable to place on the orlop deck before the deck is done. Took me a while but I've done it using the rope walk I bought recently - only problem the diameter of the cable I needed won't go though the machine.

I did passed it the first three times but had to find something else for the forth and last one - in total 81 strands of thread. First pass, three threads I done it three time up to the spool capacity which in the end turned out to be about 100m of rope. Each one of these was cut in three roughly equal pieces and the three passed again to form a 9 strands rope, which again was cut in three and passed again to get about 7-8 meters of 27 strands rope.

For the last pass I disassembled the rope walk only used the turning part and fixed the cables to it at one end and to a fixed point on the other. After a bit of experimenting I managed to get about 5m of 81 strands cable. 

 

Edited May 2, 2014 by guraus

[guraus]

After the cable was done I continued working on the deck framing as you can see from the pictures.

Thank you,

Alexandru

Edited May 2, 2014 by guraus

[realworkingsailor]

I've seen model rope walks..... but never one that takes up an entire room!

 

Maybe I wasn't looking that hard....

 

Amazing work all the same....

 

Andy

[WackoWolf]

Beautiful work and detail. I guess your happy with your new rope walk, beautiful machine. I was lucky enough to see one in person at the show in CT. Jim makes everything with pride. Keep the pictures coming.

[norriro]

Alexandru,

The rope looks so realistic wound around the bitts. Bravo once again! I imagine you will worm/parcel/serve the end before it gets covered over by the lower deck?

Bob

 

PS do you cut out the beams or do you use your mill for the slots?

[guraus]

Thank you for appreciation.

 

Andy, the rope machine is quite small. I used the entire room to spread the rope so I can cut it in three more or less equal pieces. Then only for the last pass I had to clamp the machine on one table and the other end of the cable being made on a weighted "slide" I build myself on another.

 

Joe, I am quite happy with the machine right now but I had to figure out some issues as it did not twisted the rope uniformly. There was not enough tension on one of the threads - I had to add an additional washer on it. Now works ok, quite fast but even so, to make that one piece of cable it took me at least 5-6 hours. And doing it becomes quite fast boring.... But I am very happy with the result so it was worth it.

 

Bob, glad you pointed that out, as I won't have access to one end - I should do it now before I forget again. The beams are made on the milling machine. I have a small Proxxon mill.

 

Regards,

Alexandru

[NenadM]

exelent work

[gjdale]

Excellent work Alexandru, you just keep finding new ways to make an outstanding build even better!

[michael mott]

Great to see how you overcame the limits of your Machine. One of the great things about sharing how we work, it gives the rest of us inspiration to try new ways.

 

Michael

[Fortres]

what are the three funnel type objects on the upper deck

I did not understand - what objects you asked about

[guraus]

Hello all,

 

Made some progress and here are the pictures.

Edited May 2, 2014 by guraus

[guraus]

Thank you,

Alexandru

Edited May 2, 2014 by guraus

[Sven]

An astonishing project. Such quality !!

[norriro]

Alexandru,

Without even mentioning the quality of your work, which is exceptional, what I find amazing is the speed that you are able to work at. You really are gifted with your hands!

Bob

[md1400cs]

Alexandru,

 

Your quality of work could not possibly improve. Astonishing. Always amazing to look at your updates. Your historical knowledge of this ship runs in parallel with your build.

 

Regards,

 

Michael

[mtaylor]

What the others said... I'm speechless.

[pompey2]

Alexandru, Outstanding simply outstanding!

 

Nick

[guraus]

Thank you all, your comments are appreciated.

 

Several more pictures on the last week progress. Lower deck is now fully framed and I started working on the waterway and the planking above it.

 

[guraus]

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[gjdale]

Beautiful, as always Alexandru!

[Kevin]

fantastic- how did you secure the cordage to prevent it moving