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After cleaning up the shipyard a bit, here goes.... New framing wood has been ordered but due to Jeff at Hobbymill's schedule it won't be here until late (very late) April. I'm planning on using up my existing stock of swiss pear, ebony, pear, silver maple, and cherry and maybe some boxwood if I see fit. At this stage, I'm poring over the plans and notating such things as wale, gunport, and deck clamp locations on the individual frame drawings as I'm planning on putting some reference points on the frames physically as I cut them. This should solve some of my previous issues.. With 60 frames, this is going to take a bit. I have a new build board laid out and prepped but not cut. The frame reference board is ready to go. I'm still making a final decision on whether to stick with cherry or go with boxwood for the keel, stem, and stern items. Version 1.0 sits forlornly in another part of the shipyard waiting for various bits and pieces to be cannibalized. I'll be re-using my old fabricated measuring tools and making some new ones. Hopefully, by the time the framing stock arrives, all the plans will be annotated and scanned, all the bits and pieces from V 1.0 will be cannibalized, and bunches of new bits will be fabricated and then ready and waiting. It's time to do this beast right and proper... and to have some fun doing it. Footnotes to the build: I'm adding to this as I discover things. The Hahn plans lack a lot of details so additional sources will be needed. a) Hahn's "Ships of the American Revolution" is a must to understand the building method. b) I also recommend the "La Belle Poule" monograph from ANCRE. This has period bits and pieces along with the proper rigging as Hahn used La Venus which has pointed out to me as being from a later period.
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Thanks again for everyone's comments and support. The "funeral" will have to wait a bit as there's much work in the background going on. I'm starting the Version 2.0 log and will put the updates there.
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Ah, but the time period is off quite a bit for pirates, me-hearty. And indeed, V2.0 is in the planning stages. I'll get this puppy right or take up consuming large quantities of rum.
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Daniel, I'll give it some thought. Just hate toss it into the trash, though. I do want to salvage out what I can use (and as I said, meets my approval) and that will necessitate ripping up the decks. Mast steps, pumps, capstan, bitts, pin rail, oven and maybe the coamings and mast partners and keelson can all be re-used. Thanks Remco. Your tag line is one that now sits over my workbench.
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Steve, I'm just now catching up.. great job!!!
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Steve, You're doing fine on the build log. The "how-to's" are much appreciated as we often see something to solve a problem that we haven't seen before. And ship... looking really good. As far as planking tutorials.. there some in the Articles and Downloads and also pinned in the Building, Framing, and Planking sub-forum.
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Vince, My guess on that reddish wood is something they call "red mahogany". What it really is, is anyone's guess. AL calls one wood that and another wood is called "coral". So... maybe someone who knows will tell you.
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If I think about, Crackers, I will... maybe post it in the "profile photographs" topic???? Hmmm... it may not be a profile view by the time I get done with salvage work and I'm not sure it will fit into the fireplace intact. Food for future thought.
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Gil, If nothing works.... let it age. If stain won't penetrate, try putting some stain in a 50-50 mix of water and white glue with a drop or two of dish detergent. No guarantees on that, though. If it works, you can paint all the white rigging.
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Fantastic work, Augie!!!!! The planking is superb.
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Very nicely done Vivian. That night pic looks just perfect as it's great to see a different presentation now and then. Now patience on the new kits or you'll have 4 build logs going on at the same time.
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Thank you for your support everyone. While it was a tough decision, it's been coming for quite awhile so that made it easier. The further I went into this, the more I realized the errors were going to give me fits. But, it was and is a learning experience and one that I badly needed. So now to apply what I've learned and learn some new things. As for something like a TFFM, or ANCRE... I'm not there yet. I want to do this particular ship and do it well. There's a personal matter in this as well as the "I can do this!" goal. Finishing it properly will give me the confidence to step up to another level. When I started this project, my tools and I were acquaintances and now we are friends. Same for the wood. I'm already sorting out things for Version 2.0. New build board, new frame board, re-thinking and reworking the plans so I can use them. I'm sourcing wood for the frames (cherry) and am sorting out the other things... like boxwood or cherry for the stem, keel, an sternpost. In the near future, I'll open the new log once I actually start making things. As for Version 1.0, I'm planning on salvaging certain bits and pieces if I can such as grates, bitts, mast steps, etc. No point in re-inventing the wheel on them if they meet my approval. The rest of the hulk will be given a Viking funeral which is probably appropriate.
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Looks great, Piet. Can't wait to see the doors open and those smudges give her a used look.
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Cutty Sark by NenadM
mtaylor replied to NenadM's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1851 - 1900
Not good news, Nenad. At least you'll have some workspace until the weather warms up. I'll not get into the politics of gas, oil, etc. but there are lots of problems. -
Sherry, Good on you for fixing it. I think there's a curse on all model shipbuilders as everyone seems to have done this at least once. I've done it twice now.
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Dan, That is the "watchkeeper's bench" and lives on the q-deck, usually in front of the helm and mizzen mast. Fairly common as near as I can tell from various French sites and ships. The seat part on some lifted and on others, there was a pull out drawer either on the side or front. Inside the bench were pistols, swords, and maybe a short blunderbus for small grapeshot. It was for the officer's use in case of boarding parties or mutiny.
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Great pictures, Colin. I do have a suggestion.. pull them out of the gallery (it's for completed models) and put them here: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/forum/43-model-ship-clubs-and-exhibitions-and-events-museums-and-museum-ships/ since that's where museums, etc. should be placed. It'll make them easier to find if someone wants to add to It or find them.
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Well, I hate to say it, but this log is now terminated. I knew about a year ago that it might come this but not in the way I thought. There's been a lot of lessons learned and I'll give some of them as they are also reasons for terminating this log. However... I will be starting a new log on Licorne once a fresh supply of framing material arrives. Lessons learned: 1) Use only one set of drawings. I started by using two and assumed that they were dimensionally the same. Wrong! 2) Be darn sure that the reference points are adhered to throughout the build. A couple of points on this one. Hahn's drawings use a 1/4 inch build board, I used 3/16 inch thick board. My confusion came on as I thought his measurements went from the bottom of the build board up.. they didn't. Only the frame drawings had the full build board thickness and I made a faulty assumption but apparently not consistently as I'm off as much as 1/16th of inch in places. 3) Add reference lines in the cutting process of frames. I took measurements after the frames were cut and was led astray by 2). 4) What I found acceptable even two months ago in my build, I find unacceptable now. 5) I've discovered better ways of using my power tools with time and usage. 6) Use only quality wood and reject out of hand anything less than quality. There's places where I "made do" and I'm less than happy about it. 7) Keep the fingers away from spinning tools -- like milling bits and saw blades. 8) Even the master messes up. I noticed in photos that there's errors where things just didn't go together right on Hahn's model and he tweaked it. 9) It's a hobby dammit!!!!!!!! Slow down and enjoy the trip not the destination. Anyway, thanks for following along on this journey of discovery and I hope the next will be better. It has to be since I learned from this one. Lastly, expect more idiotic questions as I go... It's still a learning process. See you on Licorne... Version II.
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Great looking ratlines and great idea for jig to keep the shrouds spaced properly.
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There's a lot of good looking fiddly bits there, Hank. Keep up the good work.
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