Burroak Posted December 25, 2015 Share #1 Posted December 25, 2015 Did Hobby Mill just close their business or sell to someone else? I have heard good things about their wood products. Thanks Greg H. Canute 1 Quote GREG H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 25, 2015 Share #2 Posted December 25, 2015 Jeff retired from the premium lumber business. Crown Timberyard has taken over, in many ways, from Jeff. WoodProjectSource also has a variety of timbers. Have a look here... http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/384-where-to-buy-wood/ It lists these and other suppliers. MWerth, janos, vossy and 2 others 5 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatsinc2000 Posted December 26, 2015 Share #3 Posted December 26, 2015 Have some inventory left over and I'm planning on having a sale after the Holidays. I'll post details here on MSW when I am ready for the sale. Also I would recommend Crown Timberyard as a great alternative to my products. Cheers, Jeff Hayes HobbyMill twintrow, Canute, Ryland Craze and 7 others 10 Quote Jeff aka HobbyMill NRG Member Current Build: Constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRiddoch Posted December 27, 2015 Share #4 Posted December 27, 2015 Great tease Jeff. Looking forward to your sale. Bob R. mrjimmy and mtaylor 2 Quote San Diego Ship Modelers' GuildNautical Research Guild USS Constitution Ship Modelers GuildUSS Constitution - Model Shipways - 1:76 scale. 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways - 1:48 scale Higaki Kaisen - Woody Joe - 1:72 scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvana Posted December 29, 2015 Share #5 Posted December 29, 2015 Oh oh, another sale from Jeff. Better be ready with the wallet, was lucky last time. Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tim I. Posted December 29, 2015 Share #6 Posted December 29, 2015 I have bought from Jason at Crown Timberyard for my Essex project, and I have to say his work is top notch. You will not be disappointed with your order. - Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvana Posted December 29, 2015 Share #7 Posted December 29, 2015 (edited) Tim, I have no doubt that Jason work is top notch, I am to order from him when it comes to my Syren, if not before..... Edited December 29, 2015 by Nirvana mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvana Posted December 29, 2015 Share #8 Posted December 29, 2015 (edited) We should be very fortunate of having Jasons and Chucks companies around. Saves a lot of extra time instead making your own blocks and lines. Edited December 29, 2015 by Nirvana Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glbarlow Posted February 17, 2020 Share #9 Posted February 17, 2020 On 12/25/2015 at 1:59 AM, mtaylor said: Jeff retired from the premium lumber business. Crown Timberyard has taken over, in many ways, from Jeff. WoodProjectSource also has a variety of timbers. Have a look here... http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/384-where-to-buy-wood/ It lists these and other suppliers. I see Crown Timberyard is also now out of business. Anyone have a good source still in business as of February 2020? mtaylor 1 Quote Regards, Glenn Current Build: Don't know yet. Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted February 18, 2020 Share #10 Posted February 18, 2020 No unfortunately in the USA there are no longer sources for milled strips of Boxwood, holly or Swiss Pear. There are only a few businesses left and they are all outside of the USA. I am afraid that the only way folks are going to get stripwood like this moving forward is to invest in a good hobby saw like the Byrnes and buy sheets to mill your own strips. Not only is it cheaper but after a short time you will get really good at it. you can find domestic stuff like basswood or cherry but the sizes are limited. Taking your models to the next level means learning how to use a saw like the Byrnes saw to rip your own strips. Its not a good business to be in and it is unlikely that anyone will jump into this space to replace hobbymill. mtaylor, Justin P., Matrim and 4 others 7 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glbarlow Posted February 18, 2020 Share #11 Posted February 18, 2020 I have a Byrnes saw and can do a reasonable job of ripping my own, in fact I did for my current model since I couldn’t find anything and still had a few billets from Jeff. It’s just that I prefer not to, I don’t do it enough to be good at it and I don’t have the proper ventilation to rip something like ebony. Even with that, I’m still looking for a source for quality woods in sheets in 3-5mm thicknesses. I’ll try some of the sites listed. I do miss Hobby Mill, didn’t realize how good I had it with Jeff. Matrim, mtaylor, Rustyj and 1 other 4 Quote Regards, Glenn Current Build: Don't know yet. Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted February 18, 2020 Share #12 Posted February 18, 2020 Yes Jeff certainly spoiled us all. I miss the service every day. Matrim, RichardG, glbarlow and 4 others 7 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobG Posted February 20, 2020 Share #13 Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) On 2/18/2020 at 5:25 AM, Chuck said: Taking your models to the next level means learning how to use a saw like the Byrnes saw to rip your own strips. I'm a long ways away from being able to scratch build a model from the architectural drawings but I would like to be able to substitute better quality wood for the wood supplied in some of the kits that I'm interested in building. So many kits have mediocre or even poor quality wood in them that it's difficult to get the kind of sharp edges and smoothly sanded surfaces that I want on the model. So maybe a Byrnes saw will be the first tabletop machine that I buy. Bob Edited February 20, 2020 by BobG mtaylor 1 Quote Bob Garcia "Measure once, cuss twice!" Current Builds: Hms Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 - Vanguard Models Pen Duick - Artesania Latina 1:28 Completed: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Co. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASAT Posted February 20, 2020 Share #14 Posted February 20, 2020 That saw and his thickness sander will take you a long ways in improving your models and your modeling capabilities.... I’ve had mine over 20 years and they are still my most valued modeling tools. They have paid for themselves many times over and I am amazed that they are still as accurate and powerful as when I bought them. Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glbarlow Posted February 20, 2020 Share #15 Posted February 20, 2020 You’ll find all across this forum people rave about the Byrnes saw, I like everyone else love mine. I use it all the time along with my Byrnes Sander. I haven’t sprung for the thickness sander yet, but based on the seemingly shortage of quality strip wood it may be next. Matrim, Rustyj and mtaylor 3 Quote Regards, Glenn Current Build: Don't know yet. Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blumenfe Posted October 19, 2020 Share #16 Posted October 19, 2020 Still hoping to find a source in either Canada or the US that sells precision milled hardwood for model ships. Anyone find another source that is taking over from Hobby Mill and Crown Timberyard? I'm hoping to not have to rip my own. Matrim 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted October 19, 2020 Share #17 Posted October 19, 2020 21 hours ago, blumenfe said: Still hoping to find a source in either Canada or the US that sells precision milled hardwood for model ships. Anyone find another source that is taking over from Hobby Mill and Crown Timberyard? I'm hoping to not have to rip my own. Not yet that I'm aware of. Some of the wood companies on this side of the pond sell wood in manageable sizes but not much in way of what we traditionally use Canute 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blumenfe Posted October 20, 2020 Share #18 Posted October 20, 2020 6 hours ago, mtaylor said: Not yet that I'm aware of. Some of the wood companies on this side of the pond sell wood in manageable sizes but not much in way of what we traditionally use Well, crap. What is everyone doing, then? I guess I need to get a Byrnes saw. Canute, Ryland Craze, Bob Cleek and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Cleek Posted October 20, 2020 Share #19 Posted October 20, 2020 4 hours ago, blumenfe said: Well, crap. What is everyone doing, then? I guess I need to get a Byrnes saw. Yep. And then some. Get a Byrnes saw, a Byrnes thickness sander, a bandsaw, and a perhaps a decent hand plane if you don't want to spring for a jointer. That will enable you to mill whatever you need from billets cut from many species of excellent modeling woods that can be had for nothing. Box, pear, and the other commercially sold species are great, but you have so much more to chose from once you become self-sufficient. Even some woods from old discarded furniture can be turned into fine modeling stock. The machines do cost money, but you get a good return on them if you ever sell them used and the savings over buying milled wood pays for them in short order. One of the biggest benefits is that you can always cut the sizes you want, rather than hunting for hard to find dimensions. Canute, mtaylor, MEDDO and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glbarlow Posted October 20, 2020 Share #20 Posted October 20, 2020 I’m buying billets of precut thickness and ripping what I need with my Byrnes saw. It’s kind of rewarding to mill your own. But even the billets are getting harder to find. You won’t regret buying the saw, it’s a great tool for more than milling planks. Ryland Craze, Canute, Bob Cleek and 1 other 4 Quote Regards, Glenn Current Build: Don't know yet. Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightyo Posted October 20, 2020 Share #21 Posted October 20, 2020 I've ordered pear for my Syren (below) from The Lumberyard (based in Ohio). It's supposed to arrive sometime this week. I've also been tempted to purchase a Byrnes, but six bucks for the material I need is fantastic, assuming the quality is good. Item:1 - Qty:4, Pear Wood - 2` x 24` (1/16), Price:$6.00 Alan Canute 1 Quote Alan's POB Build Log HMS Triton 1/64 Alan's POB Build Log USS Syren 1/64 Alan's Build Log Nina 1/106 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glbarlow Posted October 20, 2020 Share #22 Posted October 20, 2020 The quality of the boxwood I bought a while back from the Lumberyard was so bad I sent it back. Hope you have better luck. Ryland Craze, mtaylor, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Regards, Glenn Current Build: Don't know yet. Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightyo Posted October 20, 2020 Share #23 Posted October 20, 2020 Oh no.... That figures.. Maybe I'll also end up being a candidate for a Byrnes saw. Maybe we can all get a group discount. lol Alan Ryland Craze, Canute, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Alan's POB Build Log HMS Triton 1/64 Alan's POB Build Log USS Syren 1/64 Alan's Build Log Nina 1/106 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grsjax Posted October 21, 2020 Share #24 Posted October 21, 2020 5 hours ago, knightyo said: Maybe we can all get a group discount. Maybe site management can explore that idea further. I have seen group buys on other sites that provided members with quality products at a discount. mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote My advice and comments are always worth what you paid for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glbarlow Posted October 21, 2020 Share #25 Posted October 21, 2020 Many of us already have one, plus Jim Byrnes deserves full retail for providing such a superior product. Ryland Craze, Canute and MEDDO 3 Quote Regards, Glenn Current Build: Don't know yet. Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted October 21, 2020 Share #26 Posted October 21, 2020 its the import taxes and postage to the UK that kills any discounts offered, i just recd a kit from CAF 5KG, 1/3 of the kit total price was just just that Rik Thistle, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 Belle Poule 1834 by Kevin - OcCre - 1/90 - French frigate - started June 2024 - - On hold MHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished Hercules by Kevin - OcCre - 1/50 - Tugboat - Finished - May 2024 Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder Posted October 21, 2020 Share #27 Posted October 21, 2020 There used to be a loop hole where if you got a company to post to someone in the US and they forwarded to you marking the item as a present you didn't pay the duty. I believe they have closed that now. My wife brought me the Lauck Street 'Fair American' and really got stung. To be honest, if she had known about the extra cost, it would not have got purchased. I have never brought anything direct from the US since. mtaylor 1 Quote Current Build(s): H.M.S Diana 1794 - Caldercraft 1:64 Scale Completed Builds: H.M.S. Cruiser 1797 - Caldercraft 1:64 Scale H.M. Naval Cutter Speedy 1828 - Model Shipwright 1:48 Royal Caroline 1749 - Panart 1:47 H.M. Brig Supply 1759 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.S. Pickle 1778 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.Y. Chatham 1741 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.S. Resolution Cutter - Corel 1:50 H.M.S. Racehorse - Sergal 1:47 (Renamed H.M.S. Thunder 1740) first wooden kit build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glbarlow Posted October 21, 2020 Share #28 Posted October 21, 2020 Seems like that’s a UK thing not a US one. I buy lots of modeling related stuff from the UK and have none of that. mtaylor, Roger Pellett and Canute 3 Quote Regards, Glenn Current Build: Don't know yet. Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardkenway Posted October 21, 2020 Share #29 Posted October 21, 2020 5 hours ago, glbarlow said: Seems like that’s a UK thing not a US one. I buy lots of modeling related stuff from the UK and have none of that. Yes it seems to be a one way thing, as the majority of products from the states attract either import duty , VAT or both!! Canute, glbarlow and mtaylor 3 Quote Current builds; Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25 Providence whaleboat- 1:25 HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 Completed: HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64- finished Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - finished Non ship: SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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