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Posted (edited)

Hey Group,

 

I am excited to announce my next project - a fully framed build of the French Frigate La Renommee in classic 1/48 scale.  After a couple of false starts (Le Gros Ventre in 1/36th and a 74 in 1/48 - I have deleted those logs) I have fallen in love with this ship.  This will be a 6500 hour plus build as I intend to mast and fully rig her.  

 

I have spent several years amassing the amount of tools necessary not to mention building out a workshop to handle a project of this degree.  The reason I chose her over Le Gros Ventre and the 74 (I love both of these ships) is she embodies the best elements of French Naval architecture (extreme tumblehome, elegant sculptures, inner oblique planking and racy lines) and is scalable for a first fully framed build.   Boudriot's Monograph of La Renommee landed last week (it took less than a week from when I placed the order from France to arrive at my door) and its spectacular.  The figurehead and stern is intimidating and right now I am by no means a "carver".  But this is a skill I want to master - and done right, in my opinion La Renommee's sculptures are some of the most beautiful in all of naval architecture.  

 

For reference I have volumes 1-3 of Boudriots 74 Gun Ship Series and David A's The Fully Framed Ship Series for "how to" techniques.    

 

My goal is to build the construction board/site and begin work on the keel by year end.  Stay tuned....

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Posted

Count me in also, Chris.  :)

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Hi Chris - 

 

Looking forward to following your progress from the beginning.  With such an ambitious building timeline it should be quite the project.  

 

One small word of caution - as much as I respect the work and scholarship of M. Budriot, I have found some significant issues when working with his monographs.  He has a tendency to re-use his drawings from the 74-gun ship project for designs of smaller ships by simply reducing them in size, without taking into account the fact that humans cannot be similarly reduced.  So check headroom clearances, ladder riser heights, and similar details before incorporating them into your model.

 

Best of succcess.

 

Dan 

Current build -Khufu solar barge, c. 2,560 BCE, a cross-section model at 1:10 scale

 

Prior scratch builds - Royal yacht Henrietta, USS Monitor, USS Maine, HMS Pelican, SS America, SS Rex, SS Uruguay, Viking knarr, Gokstad ship, Thames River Skiff , USS OneidaSwan 42 racing yacht  Queen Anne's Revenge (1710) SS Andrea Doria (1952), SS Michelangelo (1962) , Queen Anne's Revenge (2nd model) USS/SS Leviathan (1914),  James B Colgate (1892),  POW bone model (circa 1800) restoration,  SS Mayaguez (c.1975)

 

Prior kit builds - AL Dallas, Mamoli Bounty. Bluejacket America, North River Diligence, Airfix Sovereign of the Seas

 

"Take big bites.  Moderation is for monks."  Robert A. Heinlein

 

 

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Thanks everyone for your comments and encouragement.  I have just sourced some beautiful Gabon Ebony to accent the Pear I bought from France earlier this year (I am fully aware of how tough it is to work with and its toxicity - nothing replicates its appearance though).  I really want to push the envelope and challenge myself with this build.  

Posted

Hi Chris,

 

Glad you have finally fixed your mind on the next build.

 

The Renommee is a beautiful ship in my opinion, but a difficult one to model - I’m sure she will give you lots of challenges and excitement.

 

Ebony has its own charms, it also has its own issues, your choice if you want to battle with it.

 

I will look forward to watching your build as you progress, love what you are doing and don’t try to rush man - that’s the mantra I’m trying to follow ( hell - I’ve built two models so far of the same ship and I’m still trying to get to the halfway point LOL )

 

ben

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Thanks Gaetan and Ben !  This ebony will either succeed or be my folly.  It cost me 100 USD for one board foot.  To reduce the dust - I will have my facility mill it into 1/4 inch thick boards and Ill use separate blades to cut it to specific dimensions for my ship vs the ones I use to cut my Pear.  I want to at least give it a try - Ive been getting some tips on how to use it/bend it successfully with laminations.  We'll see....

 

This one won't be rushed Ben - it took me 8 years to finish Confederacy - this one will probably take 16 years !  Hopefully I will only have to build it once - LOL

  • 3 weeks later...
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First steps - with the Byrnes thickness sander created some billets for the keel parts and knee of the head - both Ebony and Pear to approximately 6.5 mm.  I am using my new solar powered Mitutoyo calipers (recent b day gift) to measure in metrics - it makes more sense to me than Imperial.  My Proxxon mf70 arrived as well - hoping to create some dust his weekend !   

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  • 2 weeks later...
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Good Morning Group,

 

I have cut out the first piece for the keel assembly - approximately two hours using most of my tools - the Byrnes Thickness Sander for final dimensioning of the billet, the DeWalt Scroll Saw, Spindle Sander and Byrnes Disc Sander.  I am hoping to become more efficient with the scroll saw - which would have cut down the amount of sanding time therefore producing the piece in less time.  I have noticed slowing the speed down on the scroll saw (at least for me) produces a more controllable cut.  It still felt great to be back at building and having fun with my new tools !

 

First observations - this new pear cuts cleanly and will finish beautifully - this piece is only sanded to 220.  Its a bit harder and lighter than the wood I used for Confederacy - which I prefer.  If i could just get my kids to sleep in I wouldn't be interrupted after only an hour of work.  4am to 6am is my workshop time - and they've been getting up at 5 for some reason - probably to torment me....

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Posted

Looks good Chris.  Yes.. kids do that as do dogs. ;)   I've found what you did and thought I was the exception to "go faster"... slow speed on the scroll saw works for me also.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

Posted (edited)

Chris - scroll saw speed is a function of blade type/size and of course material hardness/thickness. I find on my DW788 that using a #3-5 blade on pear below 1/4” thick I’m running between 3-4 speed setting for best results . What do you see?

 

ben

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Posted (edited)

Too funny - the 3-4 speed setting was the sweet spot I found this AM when cutting out the scarf joints on this 1/4 inch thick piece - the blade was much more precise vs the higher speed I used to cut out this part out a few days ago from the billet.   Im curious to try out this setting tomorrow AM when I cut out the next keel part.  I purchased most of these tools after Confederacy was just about complete so Im still getting used to them and having fun in the process.    

Edited by ChrisLBren
Posted

And you're off, Chris! Pear is a fantastic wood to work with. It's not the worst idea to leave these crucial pieces slightly wider than spec while forming those difficult scarph joints. If the angle of your joint is off by a degree or two it will kick up or down the mating piece by a small amount. Leaving a little extra while mating the joints will give you a bit of leeway if this happens.

 

Curious as to which spindle sander you've chosen. How about the scroll saw blade? The right blade makes all the difference.

Greg

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Posted

Great to see you off and running. I too like s slower speed. As said blade, speed, wood type all influence the cut. As you go you'll you'll find your sweet spot and what works best for you. 

Rusty

"So Long For Now" B) 

 

Current Builds: Speedwell

 

 

Completed Build Logs:  HMS Winchelsea 1/48   Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross SectionCutter CheerfulQueen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat

 

Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout

 

Posted

This is off to a great start, Chris.  I can relate to trying to get a little quality working time in, around the sleeping times of my kids.  I try to get at least a little something done, most evenings, but some nights I just don’t have it.

 

Anyway, this is such a lovely frigate you are building, and I am looking forward to following along.

We are all works in progress, all of the time.

Posted

Nice beginning, Chris. When my daughter was young, I had to take ten years off from any modeling. Well, not quite true: I built a number of things such as a doll's house with her! But no ship modelling.

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