CDW Posted July 16, 2020 Share #31 Posted July 16, 2020 There's really only one reason I won't buy this kit right now; if ordered, it might get here by Thanksgiving (November). I don't see any vendors on the USA mainland that offer it. As for poor instructions and errors; nothing new. Happens with almost every kit and consistently with Pontos update sets. That being said, I would completely agree with your assessment, this is not a kit for beginners. Michel L., popeye the sailor, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted July 17, 2020 Share #32 Posted July 17, 2020 I think that anyone reading this and giving thought to buying the model will ultimately appreciate your honesty. Egilman, lmagna, Michel L. and 3 others 6 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arild Moland Posted July 30, 2020 Share #33 Posted July 30, 2020 As Harley has mentioned, we've been sharing thoughts privately on it. I agree with most of what he says, especially on the quality of the instructions. Now, I've never built a wood model in "modern times", and my only experience in the field was a couple of Billing Boats efforts in my teens (I'm pushing 50 now), but I have built plastic models for the past 15+ years, and I've come to regard instructions from most model companies as guide lines, not gospel. Joy Yard also follow a long tradition of giving you very scarce paint instructions, but as far as I can tell, the one sheet you get is at least quite accurate rather than pure fantasy (which isn't at all uncommon for armour subjects for instance). I still think this kit is great however, for these reasons: It is this company's first effort and the use of slide moulds is impressive The kit is designed for the PE that comes with it, eliminating the need to shave off plastic detail to be replaced You really do not need aftermarket to get a great level of detail (even other kits I've seen with an abundance of PE, leaves out important stuff like the railing along the full hull for some reason) Given point 3, I think it is great value for money. The comparable Pontos upgrades easily cost as much or more than this kit cost me, delivered. However, the marketing of the kit could easily lead one to think this will be an easy kit to build. Joy Yard makes a point out of the use of slide moulds to save the modeller time. Well, time saved to spend on mounting minute parts of PE, I suppose. You will need to love working with PE, solving instructions riddles, and have a set of very fine tipped tweezers to get through this project. Now, would I recommend this kit to a friend? Now, that depends very much on the friend. My take on the kit is based on building up the hull and having started on the superstructure and guns. The rest of my impression of the kit is based on the same as any other in-box review. Also bear in mind that my previous ship modelling effort in modern times, was an aborted attempt to upgrade Tamiyas 1979 Yamato to a decent standard, at which I failed, mostly because I started it way too early after rebooting the hobby, and being overly ambitious (you've all heard that one before!). So I guess I'm easy to impress Arild lmagna, Egilman, popeye the sailor and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
German_cl Posted August 1, 2020 Share #34 Posted August 1, 2020 Hi all! I got to be honest.... after seeing this post a few days ago i decided to sign up in this forum and get me one of those Joy-Yard USS Missouri kits (together with a VeryFire 1/350 USS Montana).... Im eager to see the progress on your builds! Kind regards German mtaylor, MEDDO, Egilman and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaacC Posted January 13, 2021 Share #35 Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) I pulled the trigger on this kit. It's now Jan-2021 so it's more readily available. I purchased mine off of eBay from a reputable seller. It was the best price in the end. I've found it available on eBay and AliExpress for the best prices. It's also available from Amazon but at a significantly higher price. It's the same as usual. Ordering from China will get you the best price. And, ordering from a North American source you'll have to pay the shipping premium. I'm not sure about the wooden deck upgrade kit. Joy Yard printed it on a wide and heavy grained wood so that the deck will end up having a way out of scale grain pattern. I have a mind to purchase balsa veneer and make my own deck. Though, I have yet to figure out how to draw Teak's grain pattern on planks that are 0.75 mm wide to begin with, not to even mention the black caulking between planks, in scale. As for value, I think this kit is less expensive over all. Buying a kit like from Very Fire is cheaper but by the time you add all the PE upgrade kits, you're paying far more than for the Joy Yard kit which comes with 12 big PE sheets and brass everything. As for the manual and kit itself, I agree, they point me in the right direction. I'll build according to authoritative sources and modify parts as necessary. I just ordered "Battleship Missouri, An Illustrated History," by Paul Stillwell. Also, on Harley's recommendation, I picked up TopDrawings' USS Missouri drawings package. TopDrawings is a series published by Kagero Publishing, a Polish publisher. They have another series entitled, "Super Drawings in 3D," but the USS Missouri book of this series is not buyable for money nor love. I just received back an email from them, enquiring about a reprint. They say they just reprinted it and it sold out immediately. [Edit] I was hoping to find 1/350 brass screws for the Missouri and then repaint them bronze, but I can't find anything, unlike the after-market for 1/200 Missouri stuff. Isaac. Edited January 13, 2021 by IsaacC lmagna, popeye the sailor, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted January 13, 2021 Share #36 Posted January 13, 2021 Isaac, Consider basswood instead of balsa for the decking. Balsa is just too soft and fuzzy for this. lmagna, Canute, popeye the sailor and 3 others 6 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaacC Posted January 14, 2021 Share #37 Posted January 14, 2021 3 hours ago, mtaylor said: Isaac, Consider basswood instead of balsa for the decking. Balsa is just too soft and fuzzy for this. Yeah, right. I was primarily thinking about the tightest grain so I could impose my own grain. But, I was also thinking that balsa was going to be a nightmare to sand, as you say. Thanks. Egilman, mtaylor, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arild Moland Posted January 17, 2021 Share #38 Posted January 17, 2021 I never considered a wood deck for this, as the deck should be painted anyway. Good luck on your project, Isaac. I've put it on hold for a little while. Need to recharge my PE mojo popeye the sailor, Canute, Egilman and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtdoramike Posted January 25, 2021 Share #39 Posted January 25, 2021 If you are going to use a wood to make your own, why are you concerned with grain pattern? With that scale, you would never even see any wood grain. So I would get small box wood or similar clear wood planks and plank it. Canute, popeye the sailor, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landlubber Mike Posted January 27, 2021 Share #40 Posted January 27, 2021 You might be able to find generic stick on decking material that is pre-printed with deck planks. I've picked up a few for my 1/700 models, my guess is they have it for 1/350 as well. Seems easier to cut out the deck planking you want, rather than try to build it up from scratch and add the planking lines. mtdoramike, Egilman, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted January 29, 2021 Share #41 Posted January 29, 2021 Stick on deck full stop. These decks were holy stoned to death anyways so there was no grain. I suggest you scrape the internal ledge down so the deck sits below the gunnels and not above. The pre chewed decals are ok if left alone but if you want to weather them you could paint them and weather afterwards using stains or washes to bring out the individual planks. Doing your own deck in this scale would be a nightmare unless you are very good then happy to learn! mtdoramike, Canute, Egilman and 3 others 6 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerdvr Posted August 14, 2021 Author Share #42 Posted August 14, 2021 This is my 98.75% completed Joy-Yard 1/350 USS Missouri. She is shown in early 1945 venue. I'm finishing some main deck railing work, paint touch up, and a matt clear coat and she will be ready for her seascape base. It was definitely a challenge for me and I learned a lot. I was tempted to walk away from her and did take a ten day period of abstention but the challenge remained. I spent an inordinate amount of time working through the instruction puzzle. The good amount of supplementary material I had accumulated was a great help. I have the framework for her seascape ready to finish and she will be complete. GrandpaPhil, VTHokiEE, mtdoramike and 13 others 16 Quote Cheers, Harley<p Under Construction: USS Curtis Wilbur DDG-54 1/200 by ILoveKit Completed: F-35A 1/48 by Tamiya USS Atlanta CL-51 1/350 by Very Fire Liberty Ship John W. Brown 1/350 by Trumpeter HMS Spiraea K-08 1/350 USS Arizona BB-39 1/200 by Trumpeter/Mk1 Design HMS Sir Gareth 1/350 by Starling Models USS Missouri BB-63 1945 1/350 by Joy-Yard, 9/11/21 USS Indianapolis CA-35 1945 1/350 by Trumpeter USS Kidd DD-661, 1945, 1/350, on The Sullivans kit by Trumpeter USS Alaska CB-1, 1/350, Hobby Boss, Circa 2/1945 Brig Syren 1/64 Model Shipways, Wood Started,On Hold: Frigate Confederacy 1/64 Model Shipways, Wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERS Rich Posted August 15, 2021 Share #43 Posted August 15, 2021 Handsome ship, thanks for posting…. Egilman, Canute, popeye the sailor and 1 other 4 Quote Build Logs: USS Maine, USS Constitution (Hull) Albums: Baltimore Clipper, Sherbourne Cutter, Lackawanna Tug, Eagle Coastal Schooner, Katy Pilot Boat, Sultana Colonial Schooner, Armed Virginia Sloop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arild Moland Posted August 18, 2021 Share #44 Posted August 18, 2021 Good to see that you prevailed, Harley! I'll get mine back on the bench again eventually, but numerous other projects have snuck in as they are wont to do... Egilman, mtaylor, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerdvr Posted September 12, 2021 Author Share #45 Posted September 12, 2021 My Joy-Yard 1/350 Missouri is complete. She was a challenge and the instructions caused some stress occasionally. I learned a lot. Experience can be a tough task master. I spent a ridiculous amount of time trying to get this pic to display horizontally but it just wouldn't work!! Cheers, Harley Ryland Craze, mtaylor, Dadeo911 and 12 others 12 1 2 Quote Cheers, Harley<p Under Construction: USS Curtis Wilbur DDG-54 1/200 by ILoveKit Completed: F-35A 1/48 by Tamiya USS Atlanta CL-51 1/350 by Very Fire Liberty Ship John W. Brown 1/350 by Trumpeter HMS Spiraea K-08 1/350 USS Arizona BB-39 1/200 by Trumpeter/Mk1 Design HMS Sir Gareth 1/350 by Starling Models USS Missouri BB-63 1945 1/350 by Joy-Yard, 9/11/21 USS Indianapolis CA-35 1945 1/350 by Trumpeter USS Kidd DD-661, 1945, 1/350, on The Sullivans kit by Trumpeter USS Alaska CB-1, 1/350, Hobby Boss, Circa 2/1945 Brig Syren 1/64 Model Shipways, Wood Started,On Hold: Frigate Confederacy 1/64 Model Shipways, Wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted September 12, 2021 Share #46 Posted September 12, 2021 14 hours ago, Tigerdvr said: I spent a ridiculous amount of time trying to get this pic to display horizontally but it just wouldn't work!! There you go Harley.... Beautiful Model!!! Love the water setting.... She's at Home.... mtaylor, Snug Harbor Johnny, lmagna and 3 others 2 4 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerdvr Posted September 12, 2021 Author Share #47 Posted September 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Egilman said: There you go Harley.... Beautiful Model!!! Love the water setting.... She's at Home.... Okay show off, how did you correct it? Thanks for the help and the comment. Cheers, Harley Egilman, Canute, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Cheers, Harley<p Under Construction: USS Curtis Wilbur DDG-54 1/200 by ILoveKit Completed: F-35A 1/48 by Tamiya USS Atlanta CL-51 1/350 by Very Fire Liberty Ship John W. Brown 1/350 by Trumpeter HMS Spiraea K-08 1/350 USS Arizona BB-39 1/200 by Trumpeter/Mk1 Design HMS Sir Gareth 1/350 by Starling Models USS Missouri BB-63 1945 1/350 by Joy-Yard, 9/11/21 USS Indianapolis CA-35 1945 1/350 by Trumpeter USS Kidd DD-661, 1945, 1/350, on The Sullivans kit by Trumpeter USS Alaska CB-1, 1/350, Hobby Boss, Circa 2/1945 Brig Syren 1/64 Model Shipways, Wood Started,On Hold: Frigate Confederacy 1/64 Model Shipways, Wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDW Posted September 12, 2021 Share #48 Posted September 12, 2021 Excellent! You did a magnificent job on her, Harley. mtaylor, Canute, lmagna and 1 other 4 Quote Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerdvr Posted September 12, 2021 Author Share #49 Posted September 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, CDW said: Excellent! You did a magnificent job on her, Harley. Thanks CDW, appreciate the thought. lmagna, Egilman, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Cheers, Harley<p Under Construction: USS Curtis Wilbur DDG-54 1/200 by ILoveKit Completed: F-35A 1/48 by Tamiya USS Atlanta CL-51 1/350 by Very Fire Liberty Ship John W. Brown 1/350 by Trumpeter HMS Spiraea K-08 1/350 USS Arizona BB-39 1/200 by Trumpeter/Mk1 Design HMS Sir Gareth 1/350 by Starling Models USS Missouri BB-63 1945 1/350 by Joy-Yard, 9/11/21 USS Indianapolis CA-35 1945 1/350 by Trumpeter USS Kidd DD-661, 1945, 1/350, on The Sullivans kit by Trumpeter USS Alaska CB-1, 1/350, Hobby Boss, Circa 2/1945 Brig Syren 1/64 Model Shipways, Wood Started,On Hold: Frigate Confederacy 1/64 Model Shipways, Wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted September 12, 2021 Share #50 Posted September 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Tigerdvr said: how did you correct it? It's easy to do on a windows machine, open it in viewer, (Windows native) hit the rotate button, and close it... Nice job on the ship.... looks like it belongs in a museum... mtaylor, lmagna and Canute 3 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponto Posted May 30, 2022 Share #51 Posted May 30, 2022 Great job Harley. I've just started my Missouri and hope that I can at least come close to your results. The kit will demand patience and a lot of planning. Just a quick question regarding the sequence and positioning of the main deck photo etch stanchions. I just cannot see anything about the proper sequence from bow to stern and vice versa in the supplied manual. JP Egilman, mtaylor, Dadeo911 and 2 others 5 Quote Built & De-Commissioned: HMS Endeavour (Corel), HMS Unicorn (Corel), Abandoned: HMS Bounty (AL) Completed : Wappen Von Hamburg (Corel), Le Renommee (Euromodel)... on hold Current WIP: Berlin by Corel On Shelf: HMS Bounty (Billings), Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arild Moland Posted May 31, 2022 Share #52 Posted May 31, 2022 I don't think this has been linked to before in here, so here's a link to the corrected instructions for this kit. They will not solve all the riddles and confusion involved with figuring out where all the bits and bobs go, but they're certainly an improvement over the printed one. And it actually mention the stanchions. http://cdn055.yun-img.com/static/upload/yard/news/20200409131527_58533.pdf Arild Canute, Ponto, mtaylor and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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