Glenn-UK Posted December 12, 2020 Share #31 Posted December 12, 2020 Nice work, the precision of the design is impressive Old Collingwood 1 Quote Glenn (UK) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JpR62 Posted December 12, 2020 Share #32 Posted December 12, 2020 Always so precise. Very nice job, Bob. The model seems really well thought out. Old Collingwood 1 Quote Jean-Paul 'You are not carving a bear with a chain saw here folks', Chuck Passaro, ´Queen Anne Style Barge´ manual of instructions Current builds : Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model - 1:24 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 - Syren Ship Model Company - 1:48 Finished build : Queen Anne Barge - Syren Ship Model - 1:24 Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways - 1:48 Batelina - MarisStella - 1:10 Next on list : Santa Maria boat - Korabel (Ukraine) - 1:24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted December 13, 2020 Share #33 Posted December 13, 2020 It’s looking fantastic, Bob! Nice work! Old Collingwood 1 Quote Current Build: HMS Winchelsea 1:48 (Group Project) Completed Builds: Virginia 1819 Artesania Latina - 1:41 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted December 31, 2020 Author Share #34 Posted December 31, 2020 Thanks to all for the comments and "likes". I've now completed the second planking (it took a while). The planking has been sanded and given one coat of Wipe-on Poly. I like the look of the pear. In fact, I like it enough to consider not painting below the water line. I'd appreciate any thoughts on that. Bob WalrusGuy, gjdale, GrandpaPhil and 20 others 23 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted December 31, 2020 Share #35 Posted December 31, 2020 Very nice progress, and a tough decision whether to leave the hull unpainted. I do think that the white complements the pear very nicely. Old Collingwood 1 Quote Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glbarlow Posted December 31, 2020 Share #36 Posted December 31, 2020 Really Great planking! From what I’ve seen the painting on this ship really makes it pop. Rusty’s white hull against the pear looks really good. If it were mine I’d paint it, there is still plenty of pear to be seen Ryland Craze, Old Collingwood, Rustyj and 4 others 7 Quote Regards, Glenn Current Build: HMS Winchelsea Completed Builds: HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTHokiEE Posted January 1, 2021 Share #37 Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) Beautiful work on that planking! Tough call to paint the waterline or not. While I do agree with Glenn if it was my build, but since it’s isn’t I’ll speak from the peanut gallery - I think that it would be very interesting to see what she looks like unpainted as there as several logs showing her waterline painted. Whichever way you go she’ll be stunning! Edited January 1, 2021 by VTHokiEE Old Collingwood, chris watton, glbarlow and 3 others 6 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwvolz Posted January 1, 2021 Share #38 Posted January 1, 2021 I agree with the others saying paint below the waterline. Love the contrast that provides. You can't go wrong either way though Bob. Looking good! Old Collingwood, chris watton and BobG 3 Quote Joe Volz Current build: Model Shipways "Benjamin W. Latham" Completed builds on MSW: Caldercraft HMS "Cruizer" Caldercraft HMBV "Granado" Model Shipways "Prince De Neufchatel" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobG Posted January 1, 2021 Share #39 Posted January 1, 2021 Wonderful planking job, Bob! Tough call on painting the hull...that pear is beautiful... chris watton, Old Collingwood and glbarlow 3 Quote Bob Garcia "Measure once, cuss twice!" Current Builds: Hms Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 - Vanguard Models Pen Duick - Artesania Latina 1:28 Completed: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Co. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik Thistle Posted January 1, 2021 Share #40 Posted January 1, 2021 Bob, I think white below the waterline, but it's a very close call. Either will be spot on, but the white would catch the eye more from a distance. Richard BobG, glbarlow, chris watton and 1 other 4 Quote Current build: U.S. Army K51 Radio Truck with K52 Trailer - 1944 - MiniArt - 1:35 Next build: PM Research Crank Shaper - late 1800s - 1:12 Part finished: HMS Flirt (MSE) - 1782 Vanguard Models - 1:64 Finished: Archer anti-tank gun Diorama - 1944 -Tamiya 1:35 : Churchill MkVII tank Diorama - Tamiya - 1:35 - 1944 : Sherman Firefly Tank Diorama - Revell - 1/76 - WWII : Humber MkII Scout Car Diorama - - Revell - 1:76 - WWII : PM Research Drill Press - 1895 - 1:12 : PM Research Milling Machine - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Engineering Lathe - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Beam model steam engine - 1770s onwards - 1:12 (est) : Stuart 10V model steam engine circa 1920s - 1:12 (est) : Lady Eleanor Fifie Circa 1900 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 : Dallas Cutter 1815 - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted January 1, 2021 Share #41 Posted January 1, 2021 Very nice work Bob, This is a very decorative model with painted topsides of Red, White, Blue, and Yellow ochre, together with black wales. I would paint the bottom to give balance, and as others have said it does emphasise the rich Pearwood colour of which a lot will still be in evidence. Regards, B.E. James H, chris watton, glbarlow and 4 others 7 Quote Current Build: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-164-scale Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ finished 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ finished HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelF Posted January 1, 2021 Share #42 Posted January 1, 2021 Excellent work on the hull Bob. On painting, I agree with the majority view. Although following the kit's colour scheme would cover some of your fine planking, I think the overall effect would be to enhance the pear that shows and produce a very attractive model. You and the other Duchess builders are making me itch to get started on my own kit, and you are weakening my resolve to finish Speedy first! Best wishes Derek chris watton, Old Collingwood, glbarlow and 1 other 4 Quote Cheers, Derek Current build: Duchess of Kingston On hold: HMS Winchelsea Previous builds: HMS Speedy, English Pinnace, Royal Yacht Caroline (gallery), Victory Cross-section (gallery), US Clipper Albatros, Red Dragon (years ago!) On the stocks: 18th Century Longboat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted January 1, 2021 Author Share #43 Posted January 1, 2021 Thanks to all for the nice comments, opinions on lower hull painting, and "likes". It would appear that there is general agreement to paint, and I think that you've convinced me. Bob glbarlow, Rik Thistle, DelF and 5 others 8 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted January 1, 2021 Share #44 Posted January 1, 2021 Very nice work Bob, and a Happy New Year to you. OC. chris watton and BobG 2 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share #45 Posted January 3, 2021 Thanks OC and happy New Year to you, as well. A small update. I removed the temporary beams and then the bulkhead tabs, using a chisel and finger pressure. Anything remaining was sanded flush. Next, I added the two deck pieces. These required a small amount of sanding for a snug fit. Although I was tempted, after seeing Rusty's planked decks, I chose to go with the kit decks. Next, I added the inner bulwark pieces. These required a bit more sanding and tweaking than I had expected, but turned out just fine. Lastly, I put a coat of Wipe-on Poly on the decks and the inner bulwarks. Bob jwvolz, JpR62, Glenn-UK and 15 others 18 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn-UK Posted January 3, 2021 Share #46 Posted January 3, 2021 Looking good Old Collingwood 1 Quote Glenn (UK) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobG Posted January 4, 2021 Share #47 Posted January 4, 2021 5 hours ago, rafine said: Although I was tempted, after seeing Rusty's planked decks, I chose to go with the kit decks. I think the laser etched deck looks pretty darn good, Bob. Ryland Craze and Old Collingwood 2 Quote Bob Garcia "Measure once, cuss twice!" Current Builds: Hms Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 - Vanguard Models Pen Duick - Artesania Latina 1:28 Completed: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Co. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKE Posted January 4, 2021 Share #48 Posted January 4, 2021 Just started following your build, Bob. Well done so far, and a really great job on the second planking. Inspiring! I’ve been building another of Mr. Watton’s kits, and I have to say the design and engineering has been impressive. Enjoy! Old Collingwood, Ryland Craze and BobG 3 Quote Erik K. Evens Architect and sailor Evens Architects Currently building: Brig Sloop HMS Flirt - Vanguard Models Completed: "Lady Isabella" Scottish Fishing Zulu - Vanguard Models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted January 4, 2021 Author Share #49 Posted January 4, 2021 Thanks so much Glenn, Bob, Erik and the "likes". Always appreciated. Bob BobG and Old Collingwood 2 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted January 5, 2021 Share #50 Posted January 5, 2021 Looking really nice Bob! Old Collingwood 1 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted January 6, 2021 Author Share #51 Posted January 6, 2021 Thanks so much Rusty. I really liked the look of your decks, but I 've decided to do this one pretty much straight from the box. Bob Old Collingwood and Ryland Craze 2 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted January 6, 2021 Share #52 Posted January 6, 2021 15 hours ago, rafine said: I 've decided to do this one pretty much straight from the box. That's what I did with the Zulu, Lady Isabella. This kit is great and I don't foresee making many, if any more changes. Old Collingwood and rafine 2 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted January 9, 2021 Author Share #53 Posted January 9, 2021 A number of things have been accomplished. Firstly, I masked and painted the appropriate areas of the upper hull blue and red. Next, I added the cap rails, after painting them black. After that, I added the upper rail patterns, after painting the appropriate areas black. Finally, I painted the wales black and glued them in place. Before moving on to the transom, I have a question for Chris and Jim. The plans show the transom painted blue, while the prototype and the instructions show it painted red. Which is correct? I have the same question about the quarter galleries, although the plans make no reference to color. Bob mtbediz, JpR62, EKE and 14 others 17 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted January 9, 2021 Share #54 Posted January 9, 2021 Looking great! regarding painting, I just used what seemed to be most likely for the period, so no real hard and fast rule. Glenn-UK and Old Collingwood 2 Quote Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn-UK Posted January 9, 2021 Share #55 Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) I painted the lower stern panel blue. I painted the transom red which looks really nice with the blue, gold and white. I painted the quarter galleries as shown in the manual, black background with red infills and gold decorations and white window frames. Edited January 9, 2021 by glennard2523 Old Collingwood and chris watton 2 Quote Glenn (UK) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted January 9, 2021 Share #56 Posted January 9, 2021 Hi Bob. Looks real nice. I too painted as seen in the instructions not the plans. It's your ship so whatever is your paint scheme it's right. chris watton and Old Collingwood 2 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted January 10, 2021 Author Share #57 Posted January 10, 2021 Thanks so much guys for the comments and "likes". Bob Old Collingwood 1 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted January 13, 2021 Share #58 Posted January 13, 2021 Really striking colours there Bob - you are doing a fabulous job - really enjoying what you are doing. OC. Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted January 18, 2021 Author Share #59 Posted January 18, 2021 Lately, I've been moving along in no particular order or sequence, but just kind of "doing things. These have included doing the transom and stern moldings, the port wreathes, the side windows with their decoration, and the quarter deck bulkhead. Some thoughts about choices or changes I've made: 1) all of the windows are glazed with Micro Krystal Klear, which is clear and translucent and a longtime preference of mine; 2) the transom is painted blue, with red above the windows, rather than all red. This matches the transom on Winchelsea, which I am building concurrently; the stern moldings were left natural, rather than painted gold. Again, a personal preference; finally, not withstanding the near unanimous opinion of those who responded to my question, and my own response to those opinions, I have decided not to paint the hull white below the waterline. I just like the way it looks natural. GrandpaPhil, realworkingsailor, James H and 12 others 15 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted January 18, 2021 Share #60 Posted January 18, 2021 Very very nice Bob - a real feast on the eye. OC. Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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