ancre Le Rochefort by No Idea - 1/24th Scale - First POF Build

[Toolmaker]

I’m sure you have done those posts just like they would have been done originally which is probably the easiest way.

A fancy fixture and a form tool in a fly cutter would work but every now and then the old ways still win.

 

Lovely stuff as always and thanks for all the tips.

Cheers

Paul

[No Idea]

Hi All

 

Yet another update on Le Rochefort.

 

So firstly were the limber boards. These are nice and easy to make 👍  A small strip of wood is placed up against the keelson in my case I cut it 1mm x 0.5mm which did the trick.  Then the actual boards needed a rebate cut into them which I did on the table saw.  Sorry I only took 2 photo's but once made they just slot into place and have no nails as they are supposed to be removeable.

You can see them again fitted in the next photo's.

 

So then I moved onto the hold deck beams - These are very very difficult to get right and its an angle challenge all the way!  Its so easy to start off level and then start to go off of level as you move along the hull.

 

I did make an error as I did not space the forward 4 beams correctly and ended up short on the bulkhead.  Now I could have removed them but I took the easier route and simply added another beam.  There are also 2 half beams that sit next to the pump well and they require a post to support them.  I have also only placed a beam on one side of the mast step as I'm not planking the other side and did not want to loose this detail.

 

Enough words here's the result.

So the next job is to cut the planks for the hold deck and then half timber it so as the beams etc can be seen through the side holes.

 

Cheers Mark

 

[No Idea]

Hi All

 

Work on Le Rochefort has slowed somewhat because I have returned to work after having a few weeks off so I only get to work on it at weekends again.

 

Anyway I've now planked the hold deck which has turned out very nicely.  The Castello that I'm using is just lovely to work with.  I've not put the nails in yet as I've run out of carbon rod but I'll have some for next weekend.  The first 2 planks are not nailed as they are removable to get to the limber boards.

 

I'm putting 6 powder barrels into the hull - I did start another thread regarding this and I opted to buy 6 barrels from the Syren model ship company @Chuck 

They are 1" tall and are pretty much the perfect size and being made of yellow cedar they match in quite nicely.

 

So I started a little production line and made the frames for the barrels and they fit together very easily.  I didn't remove any of the laser char as the wood has very little burning anyway.

Then each stave is bevelled which literally takes seconds to do and is glued on using CA.  I had to go and buy this glue as I just don't use it for anything else and yep I did stick my fingers together 🤣

 

The result is a very nice authentic looking barrel in my opinion  - The kit comes with black hoops but as these are powder barrels I needed either withy or copper hoops.  I opted for copper and just masked it up and gave it a quick spray.  They do take a bit of patience so I'm going to make them as I go along rather than try and do them all in one go.  I think they are going to look very nice in the finished ship.  Having said that I don't think I'm going to make a cooper anytime soon 

So that is pretty much the hold completed so I can now move onto constructing the main deck.

 

Cheers Mark

[Chuck]

That looks very good indeed.  I cant wait to see them on the model.

[Mic_Nao]

Nice and very clean work !   In the barrels, a few drops of rum ?? 😉

[No Idea]

50 minutes ago, Chuck said:

That looks very good indeed.  I cant wait to see them on the model.

Me and you both 👍  These are lovely little kits by the way I was very impressed.

25 minutes ago, Mic_Nao said:

Nice and very clean work !   In the barrels, a few drops of rum ?? 😉

Now there's an idea 😉

 

Just to give a little perspective on just how tiny these barrels are here's a couple of pictures of it in the hold.  I think it looks great!

[Tonphil1960]

Great work Mark, your log and photos are the best reference are indispensable.  

[Tobias]

Hello Mark, a beautiful interior, as usual, very precise and clean work, your barrels fit very well in the hold.

[No Idea]

Hi - I've not really had anytime lately to get much done on Le Rochefort.  Hopefully things will ease off soon and give me a little more time.

 

I have now finished the nailing on the hold deck

I've also finished making Chuck's barrels and they are now stacked in place.  I must mention though that they are historically incorrect as French powder barrels should be circled in chestnut.  For some reason though I really like the copper - and its my ship so I left them as they are.  Plundered from a captured English ship!

Cheers Mark

[Mic_Nao]

Good job !

 

[Nersch]

Hello Mark,

 

You are doing a really great job. Very neat work!

 

You are the second modeler I know who uses Castello to build a ship model. I think Castello is much harder than pear wood. What are your experiences? Is Castello easy to work with or would pear wood be a better choice?

 

Cheers Nersch

[a.sorolla]

Hi , No Idea

 

Congratulations on the work, clean and well done.
Le Rochefort is a ship destined to the supply of powder the fleet therefore the barrels, that samples in the interior of the cargo hold, do not carry metal rings, go recercados with ropes.
You can see it on the cover photo of the monograph book.
as I do not know if the translation was understood well, I put a photo of the barrels

I hope you understand that this is just a comment

 

Adrián Sorolla

[a.sorolla]

[No Idea]

2 hours ago, Nersch said:

Hello Mark,

 

You are doing a really great job. Very neat work!

 

You are the second modeler I know who uses Castello to build a ship model. I think Castello is much harder than pear wood. What are your experiences? Is Castello easy to work with or would pear wood be a better choice?

 

Cheers Nersch

Hi Nersch and thanks for you kind comments.  To answer your question in my experience Castello is only slightly harder than pear and they are very similar to work with too.  They both hold a very good edge so the choice for me is really about your personal preference in regard to colour.  Both are fantastic woods for model ships.

 

1 hour ago, a.sorolla said:

Hi , No Idea

 

Congratulations on the work, clean and well done.
Le Rochefort is a ship destined to the supply of powder the fleet therefore the barrels, that samples in the interior of the cargo hold, do not carry metal rings, go recercados with ropes.
You can see it on the cover photo of the monograph book.
as I do not know if the translation was understood well, I put a photo of the barrels

I hope you understand that this is just a comment

 

Adrián Sorolla

Hi Adrian thanks for dropping by and your comments are very welcome.  Gerard also pointed out my error but thanks for the photo of your barrels.

I follow your book very closely and it has guided me through this build so far.  I have a lot to learn about building ships!

 

I still haven't had any time to work on Le Rochefort but hopefully work will resume very shortly

 

Mark

[Tobias]

 

4 hours ago, Nersch said:

Hello Mark,

 

You are doing a really great job. Very neat work!

 

You are the second modeler I know who uses Castello to build a ship model. I think Castello is much harder than pear wood. What are your experiences? Is Castello easy to work with or would pear wood be a better choice?

 

Cheers Nersch

Hello Dieter @Nersch , Mark has done a fantastic job so far and serves as a role model for me too.

 

3 hours ago, a.sorolla said:

Hi , No Idea

 

Congratulations on the work, clean and well done.
Le Rochefort is a ship destined to the supply of powder the fleet therefore the barrels, that samples in the interior of the cargo hold, do not carry metal rings, go recercados with ropes.
You can see it on the cover photo of the monograph book.
as I do not know if the translation was understood well, I put a photo of the barrels

I hope you understand that this is just a comment

 

Adrián Sorolla

Adrian @a.sorolla  your book is worth its weight in gold and is always in use.  Thanks for the hint.

Edited April 8, 2023 by Tobias

[a.sorolla]

Thank you very much for the positive comments about the book: AN INTRODUCTION TO PLANKED ON FRAME SCALE MODEL SHIP BUILDING “DOCKYARD STYLE”

 

I do not want to make much fuss about the "No Idea" team, I just want to leave at your disposal a link to the album of all the photos that were made during the construction of the model of "Le Rochefort" and that after some of them were used to doubt the book described above.

 

I hope that having these photos that complement those of the book, is useful to those who are preparing to build this small and beautiful boat

 

https://goo.gl/photos/smMP2r6mED2ySm2W8

 

That’s it, if any of you have any questions about the book you can send me a message, I promise to answer

 

Adrián Sorolla

[No Idea]

Well at last I've finally had some time to do a little on my ship.  So I've started making the rest of the main beams and this is another very wood hungry job.  In fact I was really surprised just how much wood these parts use.  Firstly I cut them out and sanded them all to their curved shape.

I have decided to do the stern beams first and this is where I found a bit of a discrepancy in my build.  The wing transom also acts as the last beam and I found that it sits 1mm too high.  I'm not surprised to be honest as this was one of the first jobs I did when starting this build.  I didn't realise at the time how much photocopies of plans can be out and also looking back I didn't check my measurements often enough........so I'll take the 1mm as a bit of a win.  What it did mean though was I had to gently increase the hight of the beams towards the stern.  Not a problem to do so thats what I did.

 

I also had to cut out the dovetails for the waterway and spirketting into each beam which is a job that I was unsure of how to do accurately.  I considered using the mill but in the end I decided to cut them by hand as this is a skill that do need to improve.  So here's how I did it.

 

Firstly I glued the templated onto the top of the beams and then marked the depth of the dovetails which in my case is 2mm

Next using a blade I cut the square ends of each joint to the required depth

Then I cut the deepest point of the dovetail which is basically stabbing the blade in and then scored the 2mm depth line along its full length.

It was only after doing these cuts that I attempted the diagonal cuts.  I found that I had to be very delicate with this cut as its so easy to split the wood.

Then I cleaned the joint up by using a chisel

And the final result looked like this - I was quite surprised just how nicely they turned out.  Its one of those jobs where its just better not to think about it too much and just get on with it.

So I'm halfway there now and these beams seem to make the hull look much more solid.

And yep it all lines up with the wing transom.......it's just a little high 🤣

So I'll now make a start on the forward beams 👍  I've not yet cut any of the rebates for the hatches and carlings because I want to fire a line straight down the middle using thread once all of the beams are in.  That will give me a really good datum to keep things nice and straight.

 

Cheers Mark

 

[Mic_Nao]

Good job, the wood has nice color.

[albert]

Great beautiful work.

[Paul Le Wol]

Mark, beautiful hand crafting of the beams. Thank you for showing how you did that.

[DaveBaxt]

Some terrific chisel work on those beams and the overall workmanship is excellent.  I hope you get more time to work on her and look forward to your progress.  Good luck Dave.

[B-Ram]

Beautiful work Mark.

[No Idea]

2 hours ago, Mic_Nao said:

Good job, the wood has nice color.

Thanks Mic_Nao the wood is Castello and its very nice to work with

2 hours ago, albert said:

Great beautiful work.

Thanks Albert 👍

1 hour ago, Paul Le Wol said:

Mark, beautiful hand crafting of the beams. Thank you for showing how you did that.

Hi Paul - No problem mate I think it's really important to show how we try to make these parts.  It took me a few weeks to decide how I was going to tackle this joint and in the end it was quite easy once started.

32 minutes ago, B-Ram said:

Beautiful work Mark.

Thanks B-Ram 👍

[bdgiantman2]

Awesome job making those notches on the deck beams, this whole thing is turning out terrific!! I am gong to have to copy your process when I get to that step of making notches.

 

Brian

[Vladimir_Wairoa]

beautiful work. Thank you for showing the process. 

V. 

[Hubac's Historian]

This is all exquisitely well-done, Mark!

[No Idea]

On 4/16/2023 at 1:09 AM, bdgiantman2 said:

Awesome job making those notches on the deck beams, this whole thing is turning out terrific!! I am gong to have to copy your process when I get to that step of making notches.

 

Brian

Thanks Brian 👍

On 4/16/2023 at 7:21 AM, Vladimir_Wairoa said:

beautiful work. Thank you for showing the process. 

V. 

Cheers Vladimir 

On 4/17/2023 at 12:43 PM, Hubac's Historian said:

This is all exquisitely well-done, Mark!

Thanks HH its starting to come together now!

 

I've now done some more work on the forward beams.  It's exactly the same principle as before.  Here are the beams cut to length and carved.

And cut into the deck clamp making sure that they are sitting at the correct height.

Just like the stern; at the stem the beams must line up with the breast hook which was fitted over a year ago!

A couple more pictures

So my next job is to mark the centre line of the beams and then mark out and cut all of the notches for the carlings and hatches.

 

Cheers Mark 

[druxey]

Exemplary work!

[VTHokiEE]

As always I'm very impressed with your work and precision. You're creating a very beautiful ship!

[No Idea]

2 hours ago, druxey said:

Exemplary work!

Wow - thanks druxey!

1 hour ago, VTHokiEE said:

As always I'm very impressed with your work and precision. You're creating a very beautiful ship!

Thanks mate 👍

 

This is a bit of a nothing post below but sometimes I just love the simple things that are just so accurate.  Two pins - a length of red cotton - dead centre the length of the hull.  If only everything was this easy