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Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Chuck - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF - prototype build


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Are you, by any chance, going to make the capsquares available as a stand alone purchase for use with the resin barrels and gun carriages already available? I hope so!

 

I am presently rigging the guns on my Winchelsea. I shall follow your rigging of the guns with interest and I suspect a sinking feeling when I see how a master does it.

 

Best wishes

Fred

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I wish I could.   I dont think I can make them that small.  The ones for speedwell are about as small as I can make them.

 

Chuck

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It seemed to work out just fine....But I will let you guys be the judge.

 

These are so small.  But they will save so much time.  They are very difficult to photograph being black....ish.

 

These take a while to cut so please comment on yea or nay.   I dont want to make a bunch and then nobody buys them.  I would say $10 per set to cover all the guns on the Winnie.

 

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Wish I had the choice back when I made mine, my answer would have been yes. 

Regards,

Glenn

 

Current Build: Don't know yet.
Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter CheerfulLady NelsonAmati HMS Vanguard,  
HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose

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Oh I would have gotten them too. 

Rusty

"So Long For Now" B) 

 

Current Builds: Speedwell

 

 

Completed Build Logs:  HMS Winchelsea 1/48   Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross SectionCutter CheerfulQueen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat

 

Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout

 

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15 hours ago, Chuck said:

It seemed to work out just fine....But I will let you guys be the judge.

 

These are so small.  But they will save so much time.  They are very difficult to photograph being black....ish.

 

These take a while to cut so please comment on yea or nay.   I dont want to make a bunch and then nobody buys them.  I would say $10 per set to cover all the guns on the Winnie.

 

capsquares.jpg

Too late for my Winnie but perhaps my Portland (someday) will like a few sets of these.

Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 - 5th rate 32 gun frigate (on hold for now)

 

                         HMS Portland 1770 Prototype 1:48 - 4th rate 50 gun ship

 

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I vote "yea" for 1:48 capsquares!

They look amazing.

 

Ken

 

NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA)

 

Current Build:  

Washington 1776 Galley

Completed Builds:

Pilot Boat Mary  (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build)

Continental Boat Providence   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Continental Ship Independence  (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Rattlesnake   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Armed Virginia Sloop  (from Completed Gallery)

Fair American (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build Log)

 

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Give me a few days and I will make about a dozen packages for the Winnie.  I will post when they are ready and available in my store.

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Thank You!!!   There is now a small quantity available in my store.   They are on the Winnie page.

 

Chuck

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Sorry - I can't fine the capsquares on the HMS Winchester page or the Ship Model Cannon page.

Cheers.

Ken

 

NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA)

 

Current Build:  

Washington 1776 Galley

Completed Builds:

Pilot Boat Mary  (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build)

Continental Boat Providence   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Continental Ship Independence  (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Rattlesnake   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Armed Virginia Sloop  (from Completed Gallery)

Fair American (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build Log)

 

MemberShip Model Society of New Jersey

                  Nautical Research Guild

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10 hours ago, KenW said:

Sorry - I can't fine the capsquares on the HMS Winchester page or the Ship Model Cannon page.

Cheers.

https://syrenshipmodelcompany.com/hms-winchelsea-1764.php#!/Cap-Square-set-for-Winnie-Cannon-fits-1-15-16-and-1-9-16-Carriages/p/674735038/category=36635011

Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 - 5th rate 32 gun frigate (on hold for now)

 

                         HMS Portland 1770 Prototype 1:48 - 4th rate 50 gun ship

 

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Those are really quite amazing Chuck. I’ve spent a bit of time now really thinking about how you made those on the laser table and I’m coming up with a blank stare into my coffee cup. They look 3D printed.

Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 - 5th rate 32 gun frigate (on hold for now)

 

                         HMS Portland 1770 Prototype 1:48 - 4th rate 50 gun ship

 

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  • 3 weeks later...

I took a break today from making blocks and rope to test rig one of my guns.  I think it all worked out well enough.  It had been many many years since I rigged any guns.  I think Cheerful was the last time I did this.

 

Anyway...I went with a 5" single block (5/32") for the tackles with .018 tan rigging.   For the Breach line I went with .055 tan rope.   I also used my acrylic rigging hooks for the tackle but I did make the ring bolts from 24 gauge black wire.  I really wanted to establish the length for the breach line in this test so you guys would know how long to make them.   The Breech line was 6" long end-to-end.   I rigged it just like I did on Cheerful and Confederacy.  These details will be spelled out in a step by step once I rig the other seven.  This was just the first test run.  My goal was to make the guns look like they have some very natural and properly hanging ropes.  I am not sure if I pulled it off but I am happy with the results.   The next 7 guns should get better...as I get used to rigging and rope-work again.

 

And yes...rigging the guns is optional but this time I decided to take the plunge.

 

Chuck

 

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Hi Chuck - awesome stuff, as usual.  I’m looking forward to your gun rigging tutorial.  Presently, I’m struggling through that exercise in 1:96.  I’d be very curious to know more about the specifics of how you attach hooks to tackles, and so forth.

We are all works in progress, all of the time.

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These guns although only 3 pounders are the same size at this scale as those used on the Winnie.   So its not any more or less difficult to rig them.  But it does add to the model at this scale.  And there are far fewer of them.

 

Which is nice.

 

Chuck

 

 

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It's hard to write and wipe the drool off my chin at the same time! Saving my shekels now.....

hamilton

current builds: Corel HMS Bellona (1780); Admiralty models Echo cross-section (semi-scratch)
 
previous builds: MS Phantom (scuttled, 2017); MS Sultana (1767); Corel Brittany Sloop (scuttled, 2022); MS Kate Cory; MS Armed Virginia Sloop (in need of a refit); Corel Flattie; Mamoli Gretel; Amati Bluenose (1921) (scuttled, 2023); AL San Francisco (destroyed by land krakens [i.e., cats]); Corel Toulonnaise (1823); 
MS Glad Tidings (1937) (in need of a refit)HMS Blandford (1719) from Corel HMS GreyhoundFair Rosamund (1832) from OcCre Dos Amigos (missing in action); Amati Hannah (ship in a bottle); Mamoli America (1851)Bluenose fishing schooner (1921) (scratch); Off-Centre Sailing Skiff (scratch)
 
under the bench: MS Emma C Barry; MS USS Constitution; MS Flying Fish; Corel Berlin; a wood supplier Colonial Schooner Hannah; Victory Models H.M.S. Fly; CAF Models HMS Granado; MS USS Confederacy

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3 hours ago, Chuck said:

These guns although only 3 pounders .............

Enjoying following your blog on Speedwell, she is coming along very nice. I was noticing that both tackles were singles, so because of these guns being lighter in weight and caliber they wouldn't need the one tackle connecting to the hull as a double like you demonstrated on Winnie. Is this the correct understanding??

 

Brian D  :)

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Just singles.  The guns were too small for needing doubles.  Those were only used on bigger guns.  The winnie only used singles on the guns as well.

 

Im not sure where you got the idea that doubles were used.  They are only used on the biggest guns.  The winnie has 12 pounders which would only have used singles also.

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Hi Chuck, very nice result, it looks absolutely fantastic.

Auf der Werkbank:

Corvette La Palme (L'Amarante) von 1744 POF nach Plänen von Ancre

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/32046-la-palme-by-tobias-136-pof/

 

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/29843-le-coureur-1776-by-tobias-caf-148/


 

LE ROCHEFORT - Hafenyacht von 1787 1:36 von Tobias (Monographie von ANCRE)

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34810-le-rochefort-1787-by-tobias-136-harbor-yacht-from-ancre-monograph/

 

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10 hours ago, bdgiantman2 said:

Enjoying following your blog on Speedwell, she is coming along very nice. I was noticing that both tackles were singles, so because of these guns being lighter in weight and caliber they wouldn't need the one tackle connecting to the hull as a double like you demonstrated on Winnie. Is this the correct understanding??

 

Brian D  :)

 

7 hours ago, Chuck said:

Just singles.  The guns were too small for needing doubles.  Those were only used on bigger guns.  The winnie only used singles on the guns as well.

 

Im not sure where you got the idea that doubles were used.  They are only used on the biggest guns.  The winnie has 12 pounders which would only have used singles also.

I know that at least by the end of the 18th century single double combos were in use for 12pdrs. For 9pdrs and below it would only be singles. Not sure how applicable this is to the mid 18th century. The following table is the sizes I found from ADM 160/150. Obviously this is general allocation of stores information and any given ship may have differed:

 

Size & Number of Breechings, Tackle and Blocks Per Gun Circa 1794-1802

 

Breeching Size (in)

Gun Tackle Size (in)

Blocks (Single)

Blocks (Double)

Size (in)

Number

Size (in)

Number

Guns

           

32 pdr

7

3

10

2

10

2

24 pdr

3

10

2

10

2

18 pdr

8

2

8

2

12 pdr

8

2

8

2

9 pdr

2

4

   

6 pdr

2

4

   

4 pdr

5

4

   

Carronades

           

32 pdr

7

8

2

8

2

24 pdr

2

4

   

18 pdr

5

2

   

12 pdr

5

2

   

 

Speedwell is looking great chuck and those new blocks look really good, fantastic as always.

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Thank you...That is a bit later than for Speedwell.  My preference... I always use just singles based on my sources for all guns below 24 pdr.    

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