Licorne 1755 by mtaylor - 3/16" scale - French Frigate - from Hahn plans - Version 2.0 - TERMINATED

[cog]

Ah ... the sensitive side of the burly shipbuilder ... thoughtful and caring ... you must match each other perfectly ......

[gjdale]

A lovely sentiment and gesture Mark.

[Canute]

Nicely done, Mark.

 

See, Marines do have a sensitive side. :D

[WackoWolf]

 

See, Marines do have a sensitive side. :D

LOL I like that. Cute

 

Air Force 72-75

[Canute]

AF 70-98, and Mark's a Vietnam brother.

Edited July 7, 2016 by Canute

[Landlubber Mike]

Very nice touch Mark, very thoughtful of you.

[mtaylor]

Thanks for the likes and comments.

 

Yeah.... Marines have a sensitive side... shhhhh... don't tell anyone.   

Edited July 7, 2016 by mtaylor

[Piet]

Lovely touch Mark, and inside a lovely lady for a lovely lady.

 

Cheers,

[mtaylor]

Progress of sorts.

 

Back on Version 1, I didn't do anything to the hold area.  However if one looked closely down the main hatch, the frames could be seen.  So this time, I've planked the area there.  I also have some hogsheads and barrels that I'm thinking of placing just in case someone peeks.  That's basically it for the hold.  The plans do show two platforms but nothing as to access.   The admiral agrees with this... also the rest of the plan....

 

Currently, I've cut my deck clamps for all four decks (lower, gun, and the quarterdeck and forecastle).  They're soaking and will be heat bent to shape.  I'm checking the inside again for a fair run for the planks and clamps.  Found a few spots that need some touch up with the sanding stick.  I've got a jig made up with the glue drying for removing the char from 75 deck beams that I ordered from Chuck back before I bought my laser.   Hopefully that won't get too monotonous... 

 

I'm also fiddling with the stern carvings in my "quiet" moments....  

 

The rest of the plan..

As far as details on the lower deck.. there's a gunroom at the stern but nothing in any of the plans on the doorway nor for a scuttle to the deck above nor what is in the gunroom.  I'll be referencing Hermione for this as the Belle Poule plans don't go below the gundeck.  Forward of the gunroom I'll add the 4 officers rooms, two storerooms, and two breadrooms.   And of course, the oven and hatchways. 

 

I'm also adding the bulkhead just behind the foremost hatchway with two doors (left and right to avoid the hatch.  I'm not sure what was stored in that area even though there's six rooms in that cramped area labeled "storeroom".  So I'm winging it a bit.  To the stern, I'll add the 4 officers rooms, two storerooms, and two breadrooms.   And of course, the oven and hatchways.  

 

There seems to be some subtle pressure from the Admiral on this suddenly... I think it's from earlier this week when I showed her the galleries and the little plaque.  Now shes' already started talking "display case"...   I keep telling her, it will be done when it's done...   

 

Once more, dear friends... into the breach.

 

 

[mtaylor]

I thought I'd add a couple pictures of the sanding jig.  The dark brown curve is just a piece of wood the same dimensions and arc as the beam.   Currently it's set up for the top of the beam.  If I rotate it 180 degees, I'll be able to to the bottom of the beam.   The sanding drum is turning about 5000 rpm and barely touching the wood, but two passes and the wood is clean and the slight angle on the cut edge left by the laser cutter is removed.

 

 

[BANYAN]

Nice jig Mark, very effective.  With such light passes i don't think you will have to worry about wear on the sanding drum causing spacing issues.

 

cheers

 

Pat

[WackoWolf]

I like the jig, nice setup and it seems to work perfect.

[EJ_L]

Good job with that jig. That is the one major downside to laser cutting is the char that often has to be removed without sacrificing the precise cut dimensions. Looks like you may have an effective solution to the problem.

[src]

Nice jig, Mark. Simple and effective.

Sam

[aviaamator]

Mark! Let me look at Your milling machine?

[mtaylor]

 Aviaamator,

 

Here's the one I have:  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/256-micromark-micromill-review/  It's no longer made.  Also, I modified it for a higher RPM then what came from the factory.

[Moonbug]

  Mark,  Just catching up a bit after a far-to-long absence from the forum.  Lovely work as always. I greatly admire your patience to be sure.  And the plaque is a great touch.  

 

   I also kinda dig the Admiral's enthusiasm, mine is a bit burnt out on ships all over the house I fear. 

 

- Bug

[popeye the sailor]

you've been a busy beaver Mark..........love the plaque.   if I ever need one,  I'll be putting in my order     nice to see your finally getting some work done on the inside........quite a lot of work you have planned.   looking forward in seeing more  

[Sjors]

I'm just reading the plaque Mark.....

Wonderful !!!!!!

Anja gives you and Janet a hug       

 

Sjors

[mobbsie]

Lovely sentiment Mark and well executed.

 

Most of us can take a lessen away from here.

 

Be Good

 

mobbsie

[jose_b]

A lovely message for your lady and for the future. Well done!

[Martin W]

Love the jig, Mark (I have the smaller MicroMark mill, so I'm happy to see some with the big brother version).  So let me ask you a basic question:  How did you shape the wood you're using for the jig?  It seems the accuracy for that piece would be at least as important as for the one you'll put on the model, eh?

 

And have you had any problems getting your clamps to fit into the T-slots of the x-y table?  Mine are tiny, and require metric bolts, so that getting clamps secure has often been a challenge.

 

Great work as always!

 

Martin

[mtaylor]

Thanks for the "likes" and the comments.   I'm still re-fairing the inside of the hull as time permits.  Been a hectic week.

 

 

Love the jig, Mark (I have the smaller MicroMark mill, so I'm happy to see some with the big brother version).  So let me ask you a basic question:  How did you shape the wood you're using for the jig?  It seems the accuracy for that piece would be at least as important as for the one you'll put on the model, eh?

 

And have you had any problems getting your clamps to fit into the T-slots of the x-y table?  Mine are tiny, and require metric bolts, so that getting clamps secure has often been a challenge.

 

Great work as always!

 

Martin

 

Martin,

I'll answer the first question first...     The jig is actually a beam (the master beam) I made during Version 1.0.   I checked the curvature against the new beams for exactness.  After gluing it down, on the jig board, I ran a milling head through it so the sander would fit.  It may not be pretty but it works.

 

I take you have even the smaller mill that was discontinued then?   Metric..on most of these mini's seems to be standard.  Mine use the 4mm size which is NOT what I'd call standard when every other mini-mill uses 12mm.   Also, the slots don't match any other mills (even MM's R8 Mill) which made/makes tooling a problem.  

 

Yes, getting the standard clamps to fit has been an ongoing issue.  I have mine Mickey Mouse-d to work with nuts, washers, added screws, etc.  Even a piece of wood off the "stern" of the clamp to help lock things down.   

 

I've been giving thought to going to a different mill.. maybe this one:  http://www.littlemachineshop.com/products/product_view.php?ProductID=4962&category=1387807683  It's the same one MM sells but with shipping, there's not much price difference at least out here in Oregon.  

 

But, being "frugal" (ok.. the Admiral thinks I'm cheap but only on some things) I'm in a hold mode.  I guess I'm waiting for an excuse...like HMS Visa being able to return to the line of battle.

[cog]

 

But, being "frugal" (ok.. the Admiral thinks I'm cheap but only on some things) I'm in a hold mode.  I guess I'm waiting for an excuse...like HMS Visa being able to return to the line of battle.

 

Practical sounds more like it .. looks like a fair mill, have you taken a look at those from Sherline ...

[mtaylor]

Practical sounds more like it .. looks like a fair mill, have you taken a look at those from Sherline ...

 

Short answer.. yes.   

[John Maguire]

Mark,

 

Wow, looking GREAT .  .  .

 

Respectfully,

John

[mtaylor]

I started installing the deck clamps for all three decks...  pictures will be forthcoming. 

 

I'm also making some tools/jigs.

 

The first is an inside measuring tool.  I put this one together as a test, I could make it fancier and neater, but it works.  It's just a strip of wood with a miniature clothes pin (peg) glued on one side.  There's 4 small strips for guiding the slider and there's two sliders of different lengths to allow me to measure from the narrowest part of the hull to the widest so I can cut the deck beams to fit properly.

 

 

The next one is just a simple jig.  Hahn's plans show a line indicating the top of the beams (bottom of the deck planks).  So.... I worked backwards a bit when setting up the frames and put in tabs 1/4" (6.35mm) down from the line to place the clamps.  My clamps are 1/8" (3.17mm) thick and the beams are 3/16" (4.76mm).   To get the beams to the right height, I need to remove 1/16" (1.5mm) from the ends of the beam where they sit on the clamp.  Yeah.. I know, complicated, but having had issues with measuring down into the hull and then lining up the clamp with the marks, I thought this would make life easier.  It did.  But the result is this jig.  

 

It's simple two pieces of scrap wood glued together with one being 1/16" taller than the other.  The beam goes into the jig as shown in the last picture and can be marked or cut using it.  It'll work for the narrowest to the widest beam as the arc is uniform across the beam.  A nice side benefit is that I end up with a flat spot on the end of the beam for gluing it to the clamp.

 

 

I'm making some spales at this time using the same method Grant used in his Granado group build..... only a bit smaller.

Lord a willin' and the creek don't rise, I should have all the clamps in some time tomorrow.  Maybe even some beams fitted... We'll see.

 

 

[Omega1234]

Hi Mark

 

She's really cracking along now! Nice progress.

 

Cheers

 

Patrick

[gjdale]

Nice work on the jigs Mark. Those spales have come in handy a number of times - you'll wonder how you ever got on without them.

 

Re your first jig in your post, I wonder whether some telescoping brass tubing (round or square) might achieve the same aim?

[mobbsie]

Puts a whole new meaning to the term Jigy-Jig, nice plan Mark.

 

Be Good

 

mobbsie