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Posted

I am lucky, my admiral is very understanding. She does not like smelly things though, so my experiments with diluting tung oil with turpentine failed.. :D

 

Also, if she complains about my "workshop" - I will complain about her knitting machine corner  B) So no complains, perfect balance.

Posted

Finished the most risky part of the fairing - the outer surface of the side that would be opened.

Lesson for the future - if you add the bolt simulation - add another millimiter of margin to the frame lines, especially on the sides of the hull (it is unlikely that the bottom would be problematic).

 

Ended up with some really thin sides around the midship:

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But overall - nothing is screwed up! Just some bolts that are too close to the edge of the frame, but they are not poking to the side! :D

No finish applied, and will sand with fine grits right before finishing - apparently, finger marks are very visible.

 

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The transom wings required a lot of shaping! You can compare with the non-faired side on the right.

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I tried lots of different tools for fairing, but ended up with this set:

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Cork block shaped to be round on one side, and remains flat on another. Sandpaper - Mirka 120 grit.

Semi-flexible yellow thingy was very useful when sanding the bow and transom. Right the exact flex! Grit 90.

French curve scraper helped to level the frames, especially in the tight areas. In another areas, miniature chisel was used for that.

Surprisingly, block plane was very useful to quickly even out the frames, to later finish it with the sanding block.

 

Beautiful build Mike...,

 

Nils

Current builds

-Lightship Elbe 1

Completed

- Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild

"Zeesboot"  heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB  clinker scratch build scale 1:24

Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE  ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild

Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build

Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) 

"SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild)
"HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan 

-"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96  (scratchbuild)

-"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) 

"Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild)  original was my grandfathers ship

-"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 

"Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32

under restoration / restoration finished 

"Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50

Posted

 

Spent few weeks working on my "living room corner workshop"

My goodness I can't even keep my computer desk that clean and tidy.

 

The hull framing is looking very nice.

 

Michael

Current builds  Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8;      Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8;       Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8

Other projects  Pilot Cutter 1:500 ;   Maria, 1:2  Now just a memory    

Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8

Finished projects  A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100  

 

Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.

Posted

Mike , most dust gives sander , so be sure to use a vacuum cleaner, it is recommended with control power (low power thrust is sufficient, but less noise). Moreover  I recommend vacuum cleaner controller which automatically turns the vacuum cleaner together with your sander , for example PROXXON AS/E

Igor

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Posted

Igor, all shop vacs are too loud and too big for my room... So I am using a tiny detachable vac (http://cache.air-n-water.com/images/electrolux-el1014a-6-l.jpg)

I put it close to the sander, under the left bottom corner where the majority of dust goes, and that helps a lot.

Posted

Finished fairing the exterior of the hull:

 

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No finish applied yet.

 

First time I show the hidden side of it :)

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It is the port side, it would be fully planked and fully hidden - hence no iron bolts, very rough fairing and less attention to the frame alignment - ended up adding strips of wood to patch the low spots. 

 

Now need to make a frame to support the hull in an inverted position (keel down), to be able to comfortably work with the internals of the hull. Internal fairing would be fun!

 

Posted

Thanks Erik! This time I gave up and used iPhone 5 to take photos, instead of the proper camera (Canon S120). The colours on the iphone photos are much more correct and realistic then the ones made by canon, which makes everything too warm and yellow under this light. Tried to reset the WB - ended up with colours that are too cold. Tried iPhone - hah, it just gives a right colour with no tweaks or filters or adjustments :)

Posted

Installed the false keel. It is the first time I work with ebony, and probably the last. Working with ebony is all about cleaning, cleaning, cleaning and again cleaning. Bleh!

 

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Shaped it with the Veritas mini block plane, its blade is really hard, cuts ebony without any issues:

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Result:

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Posted

Beautiful work Mike

 

Michael

Current builds  Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8;      Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8;       Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8

Other projects  Pilot Cutter 1:500 ;   Maria, 1:2  Now just a memory    

Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8

Finished projects  A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100  

 

Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.

Posted

Nice, Mike! Ebony may be a pain for clean up, but nothing looks quite as good.

Posted

Just lovely, Mike.  Yeah, ebony is a pain.. but when you see the results it's worth it.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

Posted

Wonderful, Mike.

How do you want to cut the rabbet on the keel?

Regards Christian

 

Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36

On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777

Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48

"Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali

Posted

Made a support jig to install the hull in an upright position.

It is a first time I see it this way, very, khm, unusual! Like it is upside down. Or, hold on, right side up? Very confusing after working on the inverted hull for little bit more than 1.5 years..

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The jig is simple and surprisingly stable. I was planning to add a diagonal braces to it to increase stability, but looks like it is not necessary. 

 

Now it even looks much bigger when stored right side up :)

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Ok, so now I do not have any more excuses, time to fair the inside of the hull. See you in a few dusty weeks!

Posted

Mike,

Welcome to the "Let's flip it over and see what it looks like right side up" club.   She's looking very good.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

Posted (edited)

Now she looks like a ship, Mike. The next huge reveal when you cut the frame extensions and free her from the jig but wait as long as possible to do this.

 

Have fun with that internal fairing. I foresee some bloody knuckles!

Edited by dvm27

Greg

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Posted

     Mike, the model is coming along nicely.  Yes, ebony is a royal pain in the butt to use.  Not only is it brittle but the dust from it can cause real problems.  Many years back I needed some thin strakes from ebony wood.  I made them with my thickness sander.  Every time I went to put them on the hull they cracked.  Over and over I had to remake them.  Stupidly I wasn't wearing my dust mask and ended up breathing enough ebony dust that I started having respiratory problems.  I almost called 911.  Ebony looks really nice but it can be nasty to work with.  I ALWAYS use the mask now, for all woods.

 

Tom

  • 4 weeks later...
Posted (edited)

Latest updates:

Got a shipment of cast cannons (from http://shipmodels.com.ua/)  andanchor and also a cnc milled figurehead (from igorcap

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Very little time for modelling, but briefly visited Paris to admire the great collection of fully framed models in its maritime museum.

 

Still fairing the inside of the hull. The "planked" side fairing is finished, but the "prime" fully opened side will take more time.

It is a nasty process, I will really follow a traditional build sequence next time - fairing bow and stern first, before midship is assembled. 

Out of all my tools, just two are usable for it - curved scraper and a similarly shaped sanding block. Also some xacto blades for a fine scraping later during the process:

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Found a super simple way to keep the dust away - two sheets of paper - and it is collecting under the hull, not getting onto the floor. Also looks spooky :)

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These parts are really tricky due to very convex curves: 

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My frame alignment was not perfect, some ended up too thin, but I will cheat a beat and leave them slightly unfair on the internal side - it would be hard to see anyway.

Lesson for the future - build in the upright position, where it is much easier to control the alignment of the thin top timbers.

If building in Hahn way, upside down - leave a lot of margin around top timbers, where they are thin and sensible to misalignment, when you cut the frames.

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