aviaamator Posted August 10, 2018 #1381 Posted August 10, 2018 That's our scale!!! Cool! Jack12477, popeye the sailor, cog and 2 others 5 Quote
michael mott Posted August 11, 2018 Author #1382 Posted August 11, 2018 The thing that I do like about this scale is the many options for experimenting with processes. Today I made a small form for making the dorade vents and used some .003" brass shim stock to see how easy the shape would be to replicate. here are the results. The first annealing second annealing After 4 more annealing s it was looking promising A bit more trimming with some small scissors and a dab of paints So now I know that they are possible I think some heavier shim-stock say 006 or 008 might be better then some proper patina. Michael realworkingsailor, paulsutcliffe, PeteB and 22 others 25 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.
cog Posted August 11, 2018 #1383 Posted August 11, 2018 The advantage we have with this scale ... you experiment a lot! I love this build log, from start to finish it has been one big lurning curve for me, thanks for that. Back to business at hand, doesn't the brass get rather weak when annealing? Wouldn't "tapping" it into shape keep it stronger? It turned out real good though! popeye the sailor, Piet and mtaylor 3 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
michael mott Posted August 11, 2018 Author #1384 Posted August 11, 2018 Carl the process of annealing allows the metal to stretch as it stretches it work hardens and so each time it is annealed it allows for a bit more stretching. I would not be able to form the brass or copper into such an intricate shape without the annealing. Michael druxey, popeye the sailor, Piet and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.
cog Posted August 11, 2018 #1385 Posted August 11, 2018 But there is a distinct difference between iron and brass annealing, I suddenly realise that iron hardens when cooled down, whilst brass doesn't. My mistake mtaylor, popeye the sailor and Piet 3 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
Bedford Posted August 11, 2018 #1386 Posted August 11, 2018 Beautiful work as always Michael popeye the sailor, mtaylor, John Allen and 1 other 4 Quote Ships built :- Schooner for Port Jackson Thermoplylae Bluenose II Full size Tammie Norrie dinghy 1:8 scale Miss Caroline, model of the full size boat I built Under construction :- Royal Caroline, this one is special as it is in memory of my 13 year old daughter, Caroline who passed away in 2005 Miane three masted schooner R/C, scratch build (on hold) Charles W Morgan (on hold) Scratch designed and built R/C Mahogany and Walnut speedboat (on hold) In the que :- S.T. Waratah, maybe!
druxey Posted August 11, 2018 #1387 Posted August 11, 2018 When forming brass - or silver, for that matter - one cannot anneal too often. If you don't, the metal will tear. Beautifully done, Michael. That is a tough shape to achieve. BANYAN, Mike Y, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
michael mott Posted August 12, 2018 Author #1388 Posted August 12, 2018 Thanks for all the likes and fine comments. A bit more work today first order was to make a couple of left and right Dorade vent forms first a 3/4 diameter end mill then into the side with a 5/16 these were then cut to create the right and left sides. Switching gears to the companionway the side panels needed to join with the front and rear cross panels, for this i chose dovetails the same as the skylight. The initial cuts for the pins were done with the small back saw and the jewelers saw. Next they were clamped in the vice with some tool steel guides and cleaned up with a few files. Then the pins were transferred to the sides and the dovetails marked and cut with the jewelers saw and cleaned up with the files. the front panel required the most dovetails. you can see the primary vent forms in the background I worked on the starboard form first using some .008" brass and also made a domed plug from maple to assist with forming the main bowl section. Here is a shot of the companionway dry assembled with a scrap panel to see how the new vent looks. It is much more durable in the thicker brass, but I think I need to work the form a bit more, the tube section down to the box will need to be opened up a bit to form a better flow it looks a bit restricted. I will also keep it polished. Michael Jack12477, BANYAN, Mike Y and 20 others 23 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.
Bedford Posted August 12, 2018 #1389 Posted August 12, 2018 There's always a master class in your builds Michael, never get tired of learning from you. Jack12477, Piet, aviaamator and 3 others 6 Quote Ships built :- Schooner for Port Jackson Thermoplylae Bluenose II Full size Tammie Norrie dinghy 1:8 scale Miss Caroline, model of the full size boat I built Under construction :- Royal Caroline, this one is special as it is in memory of my 13 year old daughter, Caroline who passed away in 2005 Miane three masted schooner R/C, scratch build (on hold) Charles W Morgan (on hold) Scratch designed and built R/C Mahogany and Walnut speedboat (on hold) In the que :- S.T. Waratah, maybe!
michael mott Posted August 13, 2018 Author #1390 Posted August 13, 2018 Thanks Bedford. Here is a shot of the progression of the vent. I have been working on the structure of the companionway it is basically dry assembled at the moment. I keep leaving the card on the top, because I actually like the contrast between it and the sides. Michael Erebus and Terror, cog, tadheus and 14 others 17 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.
Mark Pearse Posted August 13, 2018 #1391 Posted August 13, 2018 Hi Michael, the result on the vents is very good, & I've learned something new from this. On the companionway top colour: I feel that having a different colour to the top (from the sides colour) lowers the apparent height of the overall structure, which in most cases looks better on a boat as it elongates the overall lines. I also feel that a paler colour makes it look a bit wider than with a darker colour, so again I feel that it looks better. Mark aviaamator, Piet, Jack12477 and 3 others 6 Quote completed 1:12 28' Ranger type yacht, scratch build - COMPLETED 1:12 20' 1930 open sailing boat, half model, scratch built - COMPLETED 1:12 24' Ranger type yacht, scratch build
michael mott Posted August 21, 2018 Author #1392 Posted August 21, 2018 Hi Mark I am firming up my thoughts and a white top will likely be the final choice, with a canvas type texture. Here are a couple of views of the companionway glued up with the solid panels that will be installed closer to the finish. I am now shaping the cross members to get ready for the fixed portion of the top. I still need to cut the channels for the slide on the hatch. I have been out sailing for the past few days, with Maria. Michael paulsutcliffe, popeye the sailor, Jack12477 and 15 others 18 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.
Mark Pearse Posted August 21, 2018 #1393 Posted August 21, 2018 sailing photos from your new home? Piet and popeye the sailor 2 Quote completed 1:12 28' Ranger type yacht, scratch build - COMPLETED 1:12 20' 1930 open sailing boat, half model, scratch built - COMPLETED 1:12 24' Ranger type yacht, scratch build
michael mott Posted August 21, 2018 Author #1394 Posted August 21, 2018 Mark I am not quite sure what you mean, but here is a recent shot taken by one of the club members. Also I made a new set of Dacron sails from some old sails that were given to me. What a difference in light airs The ten oz canvas ones are good for strong winds but are not good in light air. Michael DORIS, Bedford, Jack12477 and 10 others 13 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.
cog Posted August 21, 2018 #1395 Posted August 21, 2018 Cheating on Judy taking a damsel out "boating" There is time enough this winter to continue on your build, Michael. When I see the weather at your side, I would be doing the same if I had the oportunity. Enjoy while it lasts! Cheers druxey, popeye the sailor and Piet 3 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
Mark Pearse Posted August 21, 2018 #1396 Posted August 21, 2018 sorry that wasn't clear; yes, photos of your lovely boat Maria sailing in her new home waters. Piet, popeye the sailor and mtaylor 3 Quote completed 1:12 28' Ranger type yacht, scratch build - COMPLETED 1:12 20' 1930 open sailing boat, half model, scratch built - COMPLETED 1:12 24' Ranger type yacht, scratch build
BANYAN Posted August 22, 2018 #1397 Posted August 22, 2018 Maria looks a handy little craft Michael. cheers Pat popeye the sailor, mtaylor and Piet 3 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)
popeye the sailor Posted August 31, 2018 #1398 Posted August 31, 2018 catching up on your progress Michael...........the parts you create always amazes me. such wonderful work! Piet and mtaylor 2 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch
michael mott Posted September 5, 2018 Author #1399 Posted September 5, 2018 Back to the build. Thanks for all the fine comments. I have done a little more work on the companionway adding the slide track and rough fitted the solid roof section. Once the companionway is basically assembled, only three more dorade vents to form. The next step will be to cut the openings in the removable deck section then it will be ready for the structure and decking. Michael druxey, realworkingsailor, BANYAN and 18 others 21 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.
Omega1234 Posted September 5, 2018 #1400 Posted September 5, 2018 Lovely work there, Michael!!! Cheers. Patrick mtaylor and popeye the sailor 2 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora
michael mott Posted September 5, 2018 Author #1401 Posted September 5, 2018 Oh Brian you have outed me, I have known this all along and the personal name for this cutter in all my files is Kingfisher The Model Maker plans also call this boat Kingfisher There are a few other pictures of CK482 which I have in my files but I am unable to share them because I do not have the source. There is another model on this forum with this name so I did not want to put up this name, also I only used the basic bulkhead lines from the MM plans and then developed my own, and drew upon the general fleet for other details. I have copies of the Stone plans that are available for download on the "smackdock" here is another one that would make a great model it is called "pioneer" and another one from the register "Maria" I really like these boats. I am glad that there is a resurgence in restoring and preserving these vessels. Michael cog, davyboy, druxey and 3 others 6 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.
Bedford Posted September 6, 2018 #1402 Posted September 6, 2018 Pioneer is just about the perfect looking sail boat! mtaylor and popeye the sailor 2 Quote Ships built :- Schooner for Port Jackson Thermoplylae Bluenose II Full size Tammie Norrie dinghy 1:8 scale Miss Caroline, model of the full size boat I built Under construction :- Royal Caroline, this one is special as it is in memory of my 13 year old daughter, Caroline who passed away in 2005 Miane three masted schooner R/C, scratch build (on hold) Charles W Morgan (on hold) Scratch designed and built R/C Mahogany and Walnut speedboat (on hold) In the que :- S.T. Waratah, maybe!
michael mott Posted October 3, 2018 Author #1403 Posted October 3, 2018 A small update, I have started to reinforce the opening in the deck for the new removable companionway and skylight section. and while waiting for the glue to dry I made a few more studs for the cradle structure these are 2x56 threads and steel nuts with brass studs. Michael gjdale, mtaylor, popeye the sailor and 18 others 21 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.
Bedford Posted October 4, 2018 #1404 Posted October 4, 2018 Keep it coming Michael popeye the sailor, Omega1234 and mtaylor 3 Quote Ships built :- Schooner for Port Jackson Thermoplylae Bluenose II Full size Tammie Norrie dinghy 1:8 scale Miss Caroline, model of the full size boat I built Under construction :- Royal Caroline, this one is special as it is in memory of my 13 year old daughter, Caroline who passed away in 2005 Miane three masted schooner R/C, scratch build (on hold) Charles W Morgan (on hold) Scratch designed and built R/C Mahogany and Walnut speedboat (on hold) In the que :- S.T. Waratah, maybe!
michael mott Posted October 6, 2018 Author #1405 Posted October 6, 2018 Well now I have a bit more room Kingfisher is back to center stage at last. Today I will finish off the bolts in the proper cradle, I had to lower the topmast because the long table that Albertic was occupying is about 5 inches higher, but that is OK for the moment. And I fixed my chiming mantle clock, I had missed it's sweet sound. Michael hexnut, cog, BANYAN and 16 others 19 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.
Gaetan Bordeleau Posted October 6, 2018 #1406 Posted October 6, 2018 Michael, very nice; the model and the working room! mtaylor, PeteB and popeye the sailor 3 Quote
Jim Lad Posted October 6, 2018 #1407 Posted October 6, 2018 She looks as good as ever, Michael! Keep those updates coming. John mtaylor and popeye the sailor 2 Quote
michael mott Posted October 8, 2018 Author #1408 Posted October 8, 2018 Thank you all for the wonderful support. Today I finished the pivoting cradle supports for the bow, it seemed like a lot of time to just make a few studs, bolts, and the pads. I used a thinner foam pad for the bow pads I just need to add a couple of chocks each side of the keel now to lock it in place from moving side to side. Michael PS it is snowing again!!! Jack12477, tadheus, druxey and 13 others 16 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.
Mark Pearse Posted October 8, 2018 #1409 Posted October 8, 2018 Hi Michael is that a model motor boat lurking below? Looks a bit like a Fairey? Sounds like the sailing season ended very suddenly. Mark popeye the sailor, mtaylor and Jack12477 3 Quote completed 1:12 28' Ranger type yacht, scratch build - COMPLETED 1:12 20' 1930 open sailing boat, half model, scratch built - COMPLETED 1:12 24' Ranger type yacht, scratch build
michael mott Posted October 8, 2018 Author #1410 Posted October 8, 2018 Hello Mark, The cabin cruiser on the lower level is this one I was warned about not starting another project until I had finished some that are still being worked on. But you know how that works 😀 Michael druxey, popeye the sailor, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.
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