dafi Posted March 15, 2015 Author Share #901 Posted March 15, 2015 Thank you Frank! On the last picture one can see something, that I was bothering about since some time. The monogram appears sitting quite thickly on the barrel. I already used the thinnest material available from my supplier, 0,2 mm equals 2 cm in original. The original monogram is about 5 to 10 mm mm but has much more washed outlines. Time to tinker a bit and to see what still is possible :-) Two versions were spooking around my wired minds for some time - lets go for the phantoms :-) Version 1 sinking the monograms with a soldering iron. Worked surprisingly well, it was quite easy to sink it evenly ... ... until I saw the bulges of diplaced material all around. Difficult to take out, ok forget it. Version 2 were thin castings, like those I do successfully for the coat of arms of the entry port. Took two monograms and hammered them into the poly ... ... casted twice ... ... but missing a good form success was not coming. Some carvings of the form did not help. Then came version 3, gluing the monograms and filing the edges off. Looked great without color but with color splashed over ... ... merda ... ... clearway, popeye the sailor, Krelis and 2 others 5 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted March 15, 2015 Author Share #902 Posted March 15, 2015 Ok trial number 4: Took a monogram and sank it by half into a poly ... ... broke it out ... ... and took the poly as holder to file down the backsides of the monograms down to half ... ... and bingo :-) Some other side theaters of war ... ... rolled the wire for the thread rod with the filr to give it some structure ... ... and carved the bearings of the trunnion out of Evergreen. On the last picture one can see that the sliding part has to slide over the mounts of the wheels, so it means, they have to be flush in the surface. So marked the position on the circle ... ... and used a dummy for testing. First drilled a basic hole ... ... ground a old scalpel into shape ... ... and formed the drilled hole. And the trials shows that it fits :-) So assembled the carriage and barrel, splashed some paint onto it, fitted the appropriate eyebolts and it looks ok ;-) Old and new side by side ... ... old - once state of the art - ... ... and a bit pimped ... ... and it seems quite ok :-) XXXDAn gjdale, lambsbk, DCooper and 19 others 22 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted March 15, 2015 Share #903 Posted March 15, 2015 Looking fantastic as always daniel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted March 15, 2015 Share #904 Posted March 15, 2015 Uh-oh... a new reality TV show... Pimp my Carronades!!! They do look super nice, Daniel. Congratulations. popeye the sailor, docidle, Martin W and 1 other 4 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted March 15, 2015 Share #905 Posted March 15, 2015 Great work Daniel - they look terrific. Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzy Madd Posted March 16, 2015 Share #906 Posted March 16, 2015 Ok trial number 4: Took a monogram and sank it by half into a poly ... ... broke it out ... ... and took the poly as holder to file down the backsides of the monograms down to half ... ... and bingo :-) Some other side theaters of war ... ... rolled the wire for the thread rod with the filr to give it some structure ... ... and carved the bearings of the trunnion out of Evergreen. On the last picture one can see that the sliding part has to slide over the mounts of the wheels, so it means, they have to be flush in the surface. So marked the position on the circle ... ... and used a dummy for testing. First drilled a basic hole ... ... ground a old scalpel into shape ... ... and formed the drilled hole. And the trials shows that it fits :-) So assembled the carriage and barrel, splashed some paint onto it, fitted the appropriate eyebolts and it looks ok ;-) Old and new side by side ... ... old - once state of the art - ... ... and a bit pimped ... ... and it seems quite ok :-) XXXDAn Just a quick query about the monogram. Would not nori glue have held it in place while fileing then just release the thinned monogram quick wash and stick it on the coronade, or would that not be strong enough? Only as of yet I've no materials to embed the monograms into. Also if nori is too weak what about CA with the usual acetone to un glue it. Would that work do you think? Martin W and tarbrush 2 Quote Ongoing builds, SCutty Sark Revell 1/350 (Mini Nannie) Cutty Sark Airfix 1/130 (Big Sis) Will (Everard) Billings 1/65 but with wooden bottom, because I can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docidle Posted March 16, 2015 Share #907 Posted March 16, 2015 They look awesome Daniel. dafi 1 Quote Current Build: Merit 1/48 Early Eco 80' PT Boat and Imai 1/50 Catalan ShipFinished: Revell 1/196 USS Constitution (My oldest son's school project)Revell 1/72 Hanse KoggeRevell 1/50 Viking ShipRevell 1/72 U-BoatZvezda 1/72 English Medieval Ship Thomas Revell 1/90 The Nina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted March 16, 2015 Author Share #908 Posted March 16, 2015 Thank you all for comments and likes! Izzy, I do not know about nori glue, but to file the material, I think most glues are not strong enough. The material I embedded the monogrum upside down is a normal plastic card/sheet, standard material. To make sure, I only sink in one monogram, which will be destroied by taking it out again. But it leaves a wonderful form for the other ones to be held in - just place the monogram upside down in the form, no glue required, just filing slowly and carefully :-) Cheers, DAniel Izzy Madd, Martin W and mtaylor 3 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzy Madd Posted March 16, 2015 Share #909 Posted March 16, 2015 Thank you all for comments and likes! Izzy, I do not know about nori glue, but to file the material, I think most glues are not strong enough. The material I embedded the monogrum upside down is a normal plastic card/sheet, standard material. To make sure, I only sink in one monogram, which will be destroied by taking it out again. But it leaves a wonderful form for the other ones to be held in - just place the monogram upside down in the form, no glue required, just filing slowly and carefully :-) Cheers, DAniel Hi, Nori is a glue used by samurai sword sheath makers. It's used because it set solid like epoxy but dissolves in water as its starch based. I've used it when making watch glass replacement and needed to be able to file from any angle. I usually used Perspex for the glass so I would imagine of similar hardness but I never had anything move until soaked to remove it. And it's very readily available as its made from over boiled rice.. And if you always filed towards the edge as apposed to away then the CA should hold it if your substrate is rough enough. And loctite thread lock would grip brilliantly and a bottle would last years. And even more so if it's none ferrous metal as there is a chemical reaction between the glue and metal. That a lot of engineers haven't realised as they always seem to use the thread locks etc which are CA based on metal so don't experience the difference especially in curing times. Slight side issue I've had loctite thread lock and other liquids by them that in them selves won't set even after several days, add a few grains of none ferrous metal and instantly a disc 5mm x 40mm sets solid. espiegle, dafi, Martin W and 1 other 4 Quote Ongoing builds, SCutty Sark Revell 1/350 (Mini Nannie) Cutty Sark Airfix 1/130 (Big Sis) Will (Everard) Billings 1/65 but with wooden bottom, because I can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted March 18, 2015 Share #910 Posted March 18, 2015 awesome Daniel..........never a dull moment at your table! such wonderful detail.........really....really nice! Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted March 18, 2015 Author Share #911 Posted March 18, 2015 Thank you Sirs. Slow tinkering ahead ... ... creating more questions ... ... in the front the movement is limited by the eye bolts ... ... but in the back is the question how much overhang there was. Where was the limitation by the breeching rope? Sideways there were the wheels ... ... but interestingly all the contemporary drawing show a round bolt to hold the sled, possibly allowing a side turn, no second guide to be seen. Was this actually done. Ok, lets go for the trials ... ... made some timberheads ... ... the half circle was still moved as the timberheads were too far apart. Just for the model, I used a second guide ... ... and a breeching rope of 20 feet as this was indicated for 32 pounders. Fixed it gives a realistic looking overhang ... ... while in the front ... ... the radius is surprisingly limited. Cheers, Daniel clearway, WackoWolf, algeciras1801 and 12 others 15 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzy Madd Posted March 18, 2015 Share #912 Posted March 18, 2015 (edited) [quote name="dafi" post="298857" ... while in the front ... ... the radius is surprisingly limited. Cheers, Daniel Sorry to be going somewhat off subject. But looking at your excellent trials. I'm still troubled by the use of the screw for height adjustment. In one of your earlier pictures I think. You show both the wedge and the screw. Which I can understand. The screw gives the adjustment but the wedge takes the force. But without the wedge how you have it rigged. Which I'm not doubting for a moment. But basic physics shows that the rope is going to want to end up straight. To do that the back end is going to be dragged down onto the screw as well as back which would give you a one shot deal as the screw would just embed itself in the carrige. So my wondering is while the use of screw or wedge for aiming was upto the individual captains. Was it a case of at the actual firing that the wedge was always put inas that would then take the full force of the recoil. Leaving the screw safe? Would not the screw be easier to turn with an eye loop at the top for turning? Just speculation and not intended as any sort of knock or slur. But just a query of greater knowledge against pure guesswork. Edited March 18, 2015 by Izzy Madd tarbrush, popeye the sailor, dafi and 4 others 7 Quote Ongoing builds, SCutty Sark Revell 1/350 (Mini Nannie) Cutty Sark Airfix 1/130 (Big Sis) Will (Everard) Billings 1/65 but with wooden bottom, because I can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted March 20, 2015 Author Share #913 Posted March 20, 2015 (edited) "... hot deal as the screw would just embed itself in the carrige. " That is why there is a metal plate underneath the screw. But that was my same question about the help of the wedge to ease the strain on the screw. See more here: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10035-thinking-things-throu-carronade-carriages/ XXXDAn Edited March 20, 2015 by dafi Izzy Madd 1 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted March 21, 2015 Author Share #914 Posted March 21, 2015 Still had some more rounds in the NMM, checked all available carronades, found them all different, but found some similarities. - The bolt of the lower part as near to the wall as possible, gives 2mm - Shortened the front of the sled gives 1,5 mm - makes 3,5 mm :-) - no feed for higher flor plate Ok let´s go for the infamous Texas carronades massacre ... ... new hole in the floor plate, new bolt on the lower part and shortened sled ... ... pushed back ... ... and now fits in the front ... ... also the radius fits much better :-) Have to admid the timberheads being quite close to each other. Now still is the mystery of the turning sled ... ... but I am sure we will find that out ;-) XXXDAn clearway, popeye the sailor, Geoff Matson and 5 others 8 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted March 22, 2015 Author Share #915 Posted March 22, 2015 And what would be a successful tinkering weekend without decent damage reports ... Adaptations on the second carriage ... ... ... together with the almost oob version. And then reworking carriage 1 ... ... ... XXXDAn Geoff Matson, hexnut, clearway and 6 others 9 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted March 26, 2015 Author Share #916 Posted March 26, 2015 (edited) ... meanwhile preparing big things ... ... the resin saw found a new duty :-) Hooked in the pulleys ... ... using some brown yarn to keep things together. And then the great moment ... ... down the ties ... ... but the big question is still to come ... XXXDAn Edited March 26, 2015 by dafi Dubz, mtaylor, popeye the sailor and 8 others 11 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted March 27, 2015 Author Share #917 Posted March 27, 2015 ... Pandora´s box is slowly opening ... ... XXXDan hexnut, Dubz, JerseyCity Frankie and 6 others 9 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambsbk Posted March 27, 2015 Share #918 Posted March 27, 2015 Really nice detail Daniel (especially at this scale - I tend to forget how small these are - with your work that is easy to do.) dafi 1 Quote Dave U.S.S. Constitution 1:96 Revell build with fiber optic lighting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted March 27, 2015 Share #919 Posted March 27, 2015 a very neat diorama kit.........I like how you did this dafi 1 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted March 27, 2015 Author Share #920 Posted March 27, 2015 Thanx Dave ! Hello Popeye, quite easy - just draw the box open ;-) XXXDAn popeye the sailor 1 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted March 27, 2015 Author Share #921 Posted March 27, 2015 ... and here it comes, the final question of great fascinating weekend quiz: Can you recite the dialog of these pictures?? ...hihihihihihihihi... XXXDAn AndyW, popeye the sailor, druxey and 8 others 11 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyW Posted March 27, 2015 Share #922 Posted March 27, 2015 Superb work and entertaining log. dafi 1 Quote Current Build HMS Racehorse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted March 28, 2015 Share #923 Posted March 28, 2015 the dialogue? Probably something like: "The first shot went home pretty well, the Frenchies didn't expect that, that's for sure' Jan dafi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted March 28, 2015 Author Share #924 Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) Thank you for the replies ... ... but I am getting desperate ... ... heave ... ... was mixing so long to get the color of that fancy hat right ... ... heave ... ... I tell you he´s got us lost ... ... heave ... ... XXXDAn Edited March 28, 2015 by dafi CaptainSteve 1 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted March 28, 2015 Author Share #925 Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) Hyho - one german forum already solved the mystery! Do not stay behind, you have a reputation to defend ;-) ... heave ... ... five years hard labor, the judge said to me, or honorable service in His Majesty´s Navy. ... heave ... XXXDAn Edited March 28, 2015 by dafi CaptainSteve 1 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted March 28, 2015 Share #926 Posted March 28, 2015 The gentleman with the blue jacket... "here, use a bigger hammer." dafi and gjdale 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted March 28, 2015 Author Share #927 Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) ... heave ... ... five years hard labor, the judge said to me, or honorable service in His Majesty´s Navy. What did I pick? ... ... heave ... ... What are we doing in the pacific anyway? I tell you, he´s got us lost. ... heave ... XXXDAn Edited March 28, 2015 by dafi Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted March 29, 2015 Share #928 Posted March 29, 2015 I'm beginning to wonder if this dialogue has something to do with the man with the black beret (or hair?) and tiger camouflage shirt...? HIs clothing seems totally out of place. dafi 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davyboy Posted March 29, 2015 Share #929 Posted March 29, 2015 For what they are about to receive............. FIRE Dave mtaylor and dafi 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted March 29, 2015 Share #930 Posted March 29, 2015 "Huh? What did you say? That first shot deafened me." "I said, WE FORGOT TO COVER OUR EARS, MATE!" dafi, mtaylor and foxy 3 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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