Cathead Posted February 27, 2016 Share #211 Posted February 27, 2016 Seems tolerably acceptable. ggrieco, FatFingers, Jack12477 and 6 others 9 Quote Eric Current builds: scratchbuilt Missouri River steamboat Peerless (1893); 1:1 scale timber-framed outdoor kitchen Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1853 Missouri River steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtvd19 Posted February 27, 2016 Share #212 Posted February 27, 2016 Glen:Great work - as usual. These will be world class models when finished. Kurt Jack12477, mtaylor, ggrieco and 2 others 5 Quote Kurt Van Dahm Director NAUTICAL RESEARCH GUILD www.thenrg.org SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS CLUBS Nautical Research & Model Ship Society of Chicago Midwest Model Shipwrights North Shore Deadeyes The Society of Model Shipwrights Butch O'Hare - IPMS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted February 27, 2016 Share #213 Posted February 27, 2016 With nothing in the picture to show scale, she looks full size. Bob Bobstrake, Jack12477, GLakie and 4 others 7 Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted February 27, 2016 Share #214 Posted February 27, 2016 Seems tolerably acceptable. You shouldn't exaggerate ... mtaylor, Canute, Jack12477 and 7 others 10 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted February 27, 2016 Share #215 Posted February 27, 2016 <looks at pictures><jaw drops to floor> GLakie, cog, Jack12477 and 2 others 5 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvm27 Posted February 27, 2016 Share #216 Posted February 27, 2016 Wonderful work, Glen. Did you need Novocaine to facilitate the amputation of those beautiful, healthy flywheels? Cathead, mtaylor, cog and 8 others 11 Quote GregwebsiteAdmiralty Modelsmoderator Echo Cross-section buildAdmiralty Models Cross-section BuildFinished buildPegasus, 1776, cross-sectionCurrent buildSpeedwell, 1752 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggrieco Posted February 27, 2016 Author Share #217 Posted February 27, 2016 Thanks everybody! Greg, I think I could have used a shot of whisky first but i breathed a real sigh of relief when it was over and the two mated correctly. I was so afraid of laying them out improperly. I hated to cut them but it made future construction a little easier. Glenn Canute, GLakie, dvm27 and 1 other 4 Quote Glenn ___________________________________ My Gallery 9 inch Dahlgren on Marsilly Carriage<p><p> Heroine Shipwreck Diorama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted February 27, 2016 Share #218 Posted February 27, 2016 I hated to cut them but it made future construction a little easier. Then why cut them and instead accept the (slightly ?) more difficult construction ... mtaylor, ggrieco, GLakie and 1 other 4 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted February 28, 2016 Share #219 Posted February 28, 2016 That looks fairly reasonable. Magnificent work (as usual). John GLakie, ggrieco, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted February 28, 2016 Share #220 Posted February 28, 2016 Fabulous Glenn! cog, ggrieco, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted February 28, 2016 Share #221 Posted February 28, 2016 Glenn I am not sure that I would have been able to cut up the flywheel....I would have faked the waterline in that area. Stunning work all the same. Michael cog, ggrieco, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albert Posted February 28, 2016 Share #222 Posted February 28, 2016 Very very nice work. ggrieco, mtaylor, GLakie and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggrieco Posted March 5, 2016 Author Share #223 Posted March 5, 2016 With the deck finally complete on the second model, i was able to convert my mill from a thickness planer back to a mill. I have been putting off turning the paddlewheel shafts because they have hexagonal bosses that require a dividing head on the mill. This week I was able to make some progress on the paddlewheels. Turning the paddlewheel shafts. Milling the hexagonal bosses. Test fitting the paddlewheel flanges. On Heroine, all of the flanges were damaged to some extent. A few had several of the arms broken off and were reinforced by flat iron strap. Next week I will reproduce this damage and repairs. Bearing timbers in place with iron tie rods. Paddlewheel spokes fresh from the mill. The mill cuts the mating pieces so accurately, there is almost no fitting required. Just a little clean-up and they slid tightly into the channels in the flanges. Test fit of the starboard paddlewheels. Cathead, dgbot, Canute and 33 others 36 Quote Glenn ___________________________________ My Gallery 9 inch Dahlgren on Marsilly Carriage<p><p> Heroine Shipwreck Diorama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndeconte Posted March 5, 2016 Share #224 Posted March 5, 2016 (edited) AMAZING work!? Edited March 5, 2016 by ndeconte Jack12477, Canute, Bobstrake and 3 others 6 Quote Neal DeConte Rhode Island COMPLETED: 35" Orca Boat movie replica, first wooden/scratch built boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLakie Posted March 5, 2016 Share #225 Posted March 5, 2016 Amazing work Glenn! Jack12477, ggrieco, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted March 5, 2016 Share #226 Posted March 5, 2016 Bee-utiful, Glenn! Bobstrake, mtaylor, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steamschooner Posted March 5, 2016 Share #227 Posted March 5, 2016 I am thinking oh my gosh he's going to have to cut the bottoms of the paddle wheels off on the waterline model! AndrewNaylor, ggrieco, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Zipper hydroplane(Miss Mabel ) finished John Cudahy Scratch build 1/4" scale Steam Tug 1914 Steam Tug Scratch build from HAMMS plans 1820 Pinky "Eagle" Scratch build from; American Ships Their Plans and History Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texxn5 Posted March 5, 2016 Share #228 Posted March 5, 2016 Wow Glenn, very impressive. I'd love to be able to handle the machine tools for building something like this. Is it possible to stop by some time and view this magnificent build? I live about 30 minutes from College Station, and sometimes the Admiral and I venture up there to see an old friend (former Aggie 102 years old). He was a Petroleum Engr., and I think even has a building named for him - name is Mike Dillingham. We also like Abuelo's which is main reason we go there. It gives us a chance to take the little red car for an afternoon venture. I'll be following this log...great! John Canute, ggrieco, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote John Current Current Builds: US Brig Niagara on my website FINISHED BUILD LOGS: New Bedford Whaleboat - page on my Morgan Website: http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com/whaleboat-build-log-by-john-fleming.html C.W. Morgan - Model Shipways 1:64 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1785-cw-morgan-by-texxn5-johnf-ms-164-kit/ USS Constitution - Revell 1:96 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1796-uss-constitution-by-texxn5-johnf-revell-196-kit/ website US Brig Niagara Model http://www.niagaramodel.com website Charles W Morgan Model http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com website PROXXON DISCOUNT TOOL STORE http://proxxontoolsdiscount.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdT Posted March 5, 2016 Share #229 Posted March 5, 2016 Extraordinary work, Glenn. Bravo! Ed Bobstrake, ggrieco, paulsutcliffe and 3 others 6 Quote All EdT posted material Copyright 2016 Edward J Tosti Young America - extreme clipper 1853 Young America POB Version Modeling the Extreme Clipper Young America Vol 1 1:60 HMS Naiad 1797 The Naiad Frigate Vol I The Naiad Frigate Vol II1:96 Victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmajor Posted March 5, 2016 Share #230 Posted March 5, 2016 My goodness Glenn, that is stunning. ggrieco, mtaylor, GLakie and 3 others 6 Quote Ian M. Current build: HMS Unicorn (1748) - Corel Kit Advice from my Grandfather to me. The only people who don't make mistakes are those who stand back and watch. The trick is not to repeat the error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathead Posted March 5, 2016 Share #231 Posted March 5, 2016 Wow. So pretty. Glenn, I'm curious. I assume you're going to have to cut the wheels down, too, as steamschooner said. What is the reason for building the fly and paddle wheels whole and then chopping them, versus using your CAD and mill to just make them precisely cut off in the first place? mtaylor, Canute, ggrieco and 1 other 4 Quote Eric Current builds: scratchbuilt Missouri River steamboat Peerless (1893); 1:1 scale timber-framed outdoor kitchen Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1853 Missouri River steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvm27 Posted March 5, 2016 Share #232 Posted March 5, 2016 Brilliant work, Glenn, as usual. Those brass paddlewheel shafts - is your lathe CNC controlled or are they turned freehand? Canute, ggrieco, paulsutcliffe and 3 others 6 Quote GregwebsiteAdmiralty Modelsmoderator Echo Cross-section buildAdmiralty Models Cross-section BuildFinished buildPegasus, 1776, cross-sectionCurrent buildSpeedwell, 1752 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyz Posted March 5, 2016 Share #233 Posted March 5, 2016 Glenn I'm jealous I don't have the machines and the metal working knowledge to do something like this. It simply makes my appreciation of what you're doing all the greater. You are showing all of us you are a master craftsman of the 1st order. Tom paulsutcliffe, druxey, GLakie and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted March 5, 2016 Share #234 Posted March 5, 2016 Excellent work Glenn. Michael Canute, ggrieco, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted March 5, 2016 Share #235 Posted March 5, 2016 What can I say except - up to your usual standard! John Canute, druxey, ggrieco and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggrieco Posted March 5, 2016 Author Share #236 Posted March 5, 2016 Thanks everybody, I can't tell you how much I appreciate your comments, likes and advice. I do feel like cutting the flywheels may not have been the best way to go and I'm reconsidering how to display the flywheels. Now that the lower half of the hull is missing, I have to come up with an idea that won't look awkward. One idea I've considered is to have the model up on a plinth that is textured and painted to look like water on top. The paddle wheels would be cut at water level only on the port side. On the starboard side, the plinth would be cut away to show a complete paddle wheel. Since there will be cutaways of the superstructure on the starboard side to show the machinery, this would be keeping with that theme. Any ideas for not having to cut the paddle wheels would be greatly appreciated! Cathead, yes, it would have saved me some time to cut the rims with the mill but, I was afraid if I didn't have the complete circle it would be hard to guarentee the shape. When reassembling the original wheel, it was amazing how flexible the cast iron actually was. We had to continually measure and retighten the bolts to get a true shape. I was afraid it would be just too flexible with the small brass pieces. Greg, all my lathe turning is freehand. There are times when I wish I had a cnc lathe - like making the carronades for Jefferson - but lathe turning is something I love to do and prefer (most of the time) to do it by hand. Glenn GLakie, Cathead, _SalD_ and 8 others 11 Quote Glenn ___________________________________ My Gallery 9 inch Dahlgren on Marsilly Carriage<p><p> Heroine Shipwreck Diorama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albert Posted March 6, 2016 Share #237 Posted March 6, 2016 Hi Glenn your works is fantastic. Canute, ggrieco, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie da fly Posted March 6, 2016 Share #238 Posted March 6, 2016 Beautiful work, Glenn. The precision and attention to detail are outstanding. Steven GLakie, mtaylor, ggrieco and 1 other 4 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler FINISHED Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/36379-mistydeefer-by-louie-da-fly-finished-restoration-decor-yacht/#comment-1040663 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmajor Posted March 6, 2016 Share #239 Posted March 6, 2016 Glenn, I do hope you work out a way to avoid cutting any part of the wheels for the final display. To cut these masterpieces in any way would be a tragedy. GLakie, Canute, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Ian M. Current build: HMS Unicorn (1748) - Corel Kit Advice from my Grandfather to me. The only people who don't make mistakes are those who stand back and watch. The trick is not to repeat the error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega1234 Posted March 6, 2016 Share #240 Posted March 6, 2016 (edited) Hi Glenn I'm not actually sure why, but, for some reason I've lost track of your log. I've gone through it now in total disbelief. To say that I'm totally gob smacked at what you've done, is an understatement. I can't even bend a brass wire without stuffing it up, which makes my admiration of your superb workmanship only more apparent. Unbelievable! Cheers and all the best. Patrick Edited March 6, 2016 by Omega1234 GLakie, cog, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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