tlevine Posted January 21, 2017 Share #211 Posted January 21, 2017 Great job on the planking. I wish I had your patience to only install one or two planks a day. mtaylor, Canute and Erik W 3 Quote Toni Chairman Nautical Research Guild Member Nautical Research and Model Society Member Midwest Model Shipwrights Current Builds: Utrecht-1742 Completed Builds: Longboat - 1:48 scale HMS Atalanta-1775 - 1:48 scale Half Hull Planking Project Capstan Project Swallow 1779 - 1:48 scale Echo Cross Section NRG Rigging Project Utrecht-1742 Gallery: Hannah - 1:36 scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted January 21, 2017 Share #212 Posted January 21, 2017 "Show side"--"wall side". Eric, I've never done it any other way. Great work on the planking. Bob mtaylor, Erik W and Canute 3 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted January 21, 2017 Share #213 Posted January 21, 2017 NIcely done, Erik. I've tried that picking the "wall side"... but the Admiral usually has other ideas when the project is finished. Erik W, Canute, src and 1 other 4 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigersteve Posted January 21, 2017 Share #214 Posted January 21, 2017 Nicely done, Erik, as always. Good strategy and I think the pacing is good! Steve Erik W, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathead Posted January 21, 2017 Share #215 Posted January 21, 2017 Erik, I've adopted the same approach on several builds including my current one. I like knowing that I can "practice" on one side. Everything looks great! mtaylor, Canute and Erik W 3 Quote Eric Current builds: scratchbuilt Missouri River steamboat Peerless (1893); 1:1 scale timber-framed outdoor kitchen Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1853 Missouri River steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted January 21, 2017 Share #216 Posted January 21, 2017 Looks very sweet so far, Erik. The first 'real' planking job is always slow, but after a hull or two it goes much more easily and quicker. mtaylor, Canute and Erik W 3 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik W Posted January 22, 2017 Author Share #217 Posted January 22, 2017 Thanks for the kind words! Many of you set the bar high. Gives the rest of us something to aim for! Planking is an interesting process. While repetitive, there is enough of it to actually see an improvement in technique and results as progress is made. I guess this is why no matter how much we understand the concepts of how certain processes are done beforehand, improving our results only comes from getting our hands dirty by actually doing. I'm soooo glad I built the longboat as a first project rather than jumping into something like this as a first build. I'm definitely refining what I had first learned on the longboat. Toni, I'm so slow, I only have time for one or two planks a day! Druxey, I can see how it will be possible to do this a little more quickly . . . down the road. Glad to hear that others have a "Show side" vs. "Wall side" too. Erik Canute, Ryland Craze, druxey and 2 others 5 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Cheerful - Scratch Build - 1:48Finished build: 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albert Posted January 22, 2017 Share #218 Posted January 22, 2017 Hi Erik, very nice planking. Erik W, mtaylor and Canute 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted January 22, 2017 Share #219 Posted January 22, 2017 Um, 'quickly' is a relative thing, Erik! I don't think any of us can do more than a strake - or maybe two - a day, if we are to do it at a decent standard. Ryland Craze, Chuck, Erebus and Terror and 4 others 7 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik W Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share #220 Posted January 29, 2017 I finished planking the first belt of port side strakes. This had been partially done when I posted last weekend, so no, I didn't plank 10 rows of strakes in a week. These photos show the first rough sanding. There are still areas that are uneven or need a little more attention . . . which pop out to me when viewing these photos. That, and ignore the dinged paint, and glue marks. Definitely not a clean finished look yet! I'm looking forward to working on the square tuck next. I could use a little break from planking the hull sides! Erik EdT, Captain Poison, mcpwilk and 30 others 33 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Cheerful - Scratch Build - 1:48Finished build: 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dharma66 Posted February 4, 2017 Share #221 Posted February 4, 2017 Yet another amazing Cheerful build. I'm working my way through all of the logs, and the standard is simply not declining! Really inspiring, and I'm really falling in love with this wonderful design by Chuck. I was very pleased, though, Erik, to see that whilst this is only your second boat, you are an otherwise experienced modeller. Had this been the second "model" you'd ever built, I'd have had to hang up my tools src, Canute, Jack12477 and 3 others 6 Quote Phil Current (first) build: 18th Century Longboat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted February 5, 2017 Share #222 Posted February 5, 2017 Very nice planking Erik. Michael Canute, Erik W, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvm27 Posted February 5, 2017 Share #223 Posted February 5, 2017 Great job on the planking Erik. Is there some magic in this kit designed by Chuck? Every one I've seen is exceptional. I'm thinking of buying one for my seven year old grandson as clearly it's foolproof. Jack12477, Engelmann, Canute and 8 others 11 Quote GregwebsiteAdmiralty Modelsmoderator Echo Cross-section buildAdmiralty Models Cross-section BuildFinished buildPegasus, 1776, cross-sectionCurrent buildSpeedwell, 1752 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuntflyer Posted February 5, 2017 Share #224 Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) Greg, Actually, I think it was designed as a first time scratch build with some laser cut parts available for those that want them. The plan is highly detailed and as long as you follow the monograph or Chuck's build, then things can come together amazing well. So I would say that it is a very well designed ship. Mike Edited February 5, 2017 by Stuntflyer dvm27, Erik W, Jack12477 and 3 others 6 Quote Current build - Sloop Speedwell 1752 (POF) Completed builds - 18 Century Longboat (POB) , HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 (POB), HMS Winchelsea 1764 (POB) Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik W Posted February 5, 2017 Author Share #225 Posted February 5, 2017 Greg, The problem is Chuck and the first few builders set the bar high, none of us who follow want to be the only ones to build a substandard Cheerful . . . so we're forced to up our game. The pressure is intense. Erik mtaylor, michael mott, tlevine and 10 others 13 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Cheerful - Scratch Build - 1:48Finished build: 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik W Posted February 5, 2017 Author Share #226 Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) I've been wrestling with the square tuck this week. There's a lot going on as far as curves and angles in that area, making getting things correct a bit difficult. I realize my planking is flatter in the area adjacent to the wales, so that area of the square tuck looks a bit different than Chuck's. All in all I'm happy with the way it's turning out so far. I used 3/64" thick planks with a filler block behind them, rather than 1/8" thick planks, figuring it would be easier to get the planks shaped correctly in this complicated area. The idea seems to have proved successful. Erik Edited February 5, 2017 by Erik W Jack12477, Engelmann, rafine and 21 others 24 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Cheerful - Scratch Build - 1:48Finished build: 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted February 5, 2017 Share #227 Posted February 5, 2017 That looks excellent.....well done. Erik W, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted February 5, 2017 Share #228 Posted February 5, 2017 Your planking is looking great Eric. Bob Erik W, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuntflyer Posted February 5, 2017 Share #229 Posted February 5, 2017 Way to go, Erik! Looking really nice. Mike Canute, mtaylor and Erik W 3 Quote Current build - Sloop Speedwell 1752 (POF) Completed builds - 18 Century Longboat (POB) , HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 (POB), HMS Winchelsea 1764 (POB) Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik W Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share #230 Posted February 10, 2017 I finished the square tuck, gave it a rough sanding (I've only done a preliminary sanding below the wales with 120 grit sandpaper so far), and applied another 4 thin coats of red paint to the counter. The counter had gotten scuffed over the last couple of weeks. Things turned out pretty well. In the last photo, the uneven gun port frames jump out. When I planked the transom I erred on the side of having the transom planking symmetrical, knowing the gun ports would be modeled closed. The important thing to me was to have the gun port framing appear aligned correctly when viewed from the interior, since that will be visible. Every time I look at a photo of the exterior of the transom though, that just annoys me, as do the dozens of other little imperfections that only the builder usually notices. Erik dvm27, egkb, Cathead and 22 others 25 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Cheerful - Scratch Build - 1:48Finished build: 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albert Posted February 10, 2017 Share #231 Posted February 10, 2017 Bravo Erik beautiful work. Canute, mtaylor and Erik W 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvana Posted February 10, 2017 Share #232 Posted February 10, 2017 Okay Erik, This is "bugging" me You need to update the pictures using an editor to mark the errors, because I can't even find a single one. This is an outstanding clean build. JesseLee, mtaylor, Canute and 5 others 8 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuntflyer Posted February 10, 2017 Share #233 Posted February 10, 2017 The important thing to me was to have the gun port framing appear aligned correctly when viewed from the interior, since that will be visible. Every time I look at a photo of the exterior of the transom though, that just annoys me, as do the dozens of other little imperfections that only the builder usually notices. I had the same issue with those two gun ports and framing alignment. You are not going to notice it once the interior is painted and details are added to that area of the ship. Once the lids are in place everything will look great, just like the rest of the ship. Mike Canute, mtaylor, JesseLee and 1 other 4 Quote Current build - Sloop Speedwell 1752 (POF) Completed builds - 18 Century Longboat (POB) , HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 (POB), HMS Winchelsea 1764 (POB) Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigersteve Posted February 10, 2017 Share #234 Posted February 10, 2017 It looks very sharp and clean. Don't stress the areas that are bugging you. Your "mistakes" are an illusion. Lol Steve mtaylor, Erik W, JesseLee and 2 others 5 Quote Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik W Posted February 23, 2017 Author Share #235 Posted February 23, 2017 Planking, planking, and more planking. Here are some quick photos, warts and all, after a quick rough sanding. Planking from the keel up is a different beast than the other belt of strakes. The shapes take a bit of getting used to. It's coming along well so far. I've double and triple checked my tick marks. I shouldn't have any surprises when I get to the meeting of the two belts. Erik davyboy, tlevine, russ and 24 others 27 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Cheerful - Scratch Build - 1:48Finished build: 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted February 23, 2017 Share #236 Posted February 23, 2017 Beautifully done!!! I cant see any issues at all. I love the color and the photography is top notch. druxey, Canute, Stuntflyer and 4 others 7 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted February 23, 2017 Share #237 Posted February 23, 2017 Wonderful planking job Erik! Your patience is really paying off. Erik W, Ryland Craze, Nirvana and 2 others 5 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted February 23, 2017 Share #238 Posted February 23, 2017 Looking very good indeed, Erik! Erik W, Chuck, Stuntflyer and 3 others 6 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvm27 Posted February 23, 2017 Share #239 Posted February 23, 2017 Sweet planking job, Erik. Looks like you'r right on those tic marks. Canute, druxey, Erik W and 2 others 5 Quote GregwebsiteAdmiralty Modelsmoderator Echo Cross-section buildAdmiralty Models Cross-section BuildFinished buildPegasus, 1776, cross-sectionCurrent buildSpeedwell, 1752 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik W Posted February 23, 2017 Author Share #240 Posted February 23, 2017 Thanks guys! I definitely feel like I'm in the groove with the intricacies of how to get good results planking. This section of 5 strakes above the keel came out the best yet. I still have finish work (sanding) to do where the strakes meet the keel and stem, but will save that for when the hull is fully planked. I glue the edge of the strakes a few bulkheads at a time, and use these clamps to hold the strakes tight against one another while the PVA sets: I wait 20 minutes or so, and then move on to where the strake sits on the next several bulkheads. I was thinking of taking some in-progress photos of this procedure if you folks are interested. How I'm clamping the strakes has, out of necessity, gotten pretty creative! Erik Stuntflyer, Ryland Craze, Nirvana and 4 others 7 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Cheerful - Scratch Build - 1:48Finished build: 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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