Keith Black Posted July 5, 2022 Author Share #631 Posted July 5, 2022 Bless and thank you, Dave, Glen, Brian, Roger, Mark, and Keith for your kind and supportive comments and thank you, Phil, Tony, and all for the likes. Yesterday I swapped out the old folding table I've been using for the past seven years for a regular table. The folding table was okay but it was narrow, 20 x 48 x 27 inches high and not real sturdy. I was reluctant to put very much weight on it. The new table is 36 x 48 x 30 inches high and solid maple. If rising off the floor after searching for the odd bit gone missing I can grab the edge and pull myself up putting my full weight on the table without worry of it collapsing. Much safer for both myself and the Tennessee. I'm back to working on the Tennessee. FriedClams, AJohnson, GrandpaPhil and 6 others 9 Quote Current Builds: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWilliamMarshall Posted July 5, 2022 Share #632 Posted July 5, 2022 Cheers to solid foundations! I wish you peace and while nothing is perfect, I hope your work on the Tennessee provides a slight respite. Keith Black, Dave_E, mtaylor and 1 other 3 1 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen McGuire Posted July 5, 2022 Share #633 Posted July 5, 2022 Glad you are back in the saddle, Keith. Looking forward to new pics of your progress! mtaylor, Keith Black, mbp521 and 1 other 3 1 Quote Current builds: BlueJacket Constitution Repair & Build Flying Dutchman/Black Pearl Pirates of the Caribbean SIB Gallery: Mamoli CSS Alabama; Amati Hannah-SIB; Charles W Morgan-SIB; Aurora-SIB; Independence-SIB; Zheng He Treasure Fleet-SIB; Adventure Galley-SIB; Oseberg/Kraken-SIB; Roman Quinquereme/Archimedes' Claw-SIB; Wa'a Kualua-SIB; Ghost Ship Jenny-SIB; Banshee II-SIB, Completed build logs: Alabama; Hannah; Morgan; Aurora; Independence; Zheng He Treasure Fleet; Captain Kidd's Adventure Galley; Oseberg/Kraken; Roman Quinquereme/Archimedes' Claw, Wa'a Kualua, Ghost Ship Jenny; Banshee II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Black Posted July 5, 2022 Author Share #634 Posted July 5, 2022 (edited) Thank you Eric and Glen for the comments and thank you to all for the likes. The Madawaska/Tennessee artifact arrived today. I don't question it's authenticity but I do question how it was made. The letters and numbers are indented which suggest stamping yet there's no evidence of bulging on the reverse. All the cast makers plates I've seen the letters and numbers are raised. Another curious fact, the Madawaska was launched in 1865 yet the date is 1866. Once back from her shakedown voyage did the Captain put in a requisition for what he thought was a needed 40 gallon tank to go somewhere aboard the ship? Is that why the name "Madawaska" appears on the tag as it was a speciality item that had to make its way through the yard along with all the other ship's items being made? I do love a good brain teaser, I suspect I'll enjoy many moments conjuring the reasons "why". I'm absolutely ticked pink to hold and be able to place with the Tennessee model an item 156 years old that was part of the ship no matter how insignificant. Edited July 5, 2022 by Keith Black BrianK, mbp521, AJohnson and 12 others 13 2 Quote Current Builds: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted July 6, 2022 Share #635 Posted July 6, 2022 I'd guess that it was cast from the looks. The difference in dates is good question. How many water tanks were there as built? It's possible that that one or two more were added to ensure water for a voyage. mbp521, Glen McGuire, Keith Black and 1 other 4 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Pellett Posted July 6, 2022 Share #636 Posted July 6, 2022 Keith, After launching, she would be brought to the fitting out pier to be finished. This would have included installation of major machinery to heavy to be hoisted aboard while she was on the building ways. The fitting out pier would have been equipped to do this. Launching can also apply abnormal longitudinal bending stresses to the hull so her Naval Architects would have wanted to keep launch weight to a minimum. Finishing her could well have extended into 1866; particularly with her complex machinery installation. Roger EricWilliamMarshall, Keith Black, Dave_E and 4 others 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Black Posted July 6, 2022 Author Share #637 Posted July 6, 2022 Roger, thank you for the explanation of the fitting out process. I know that comes from personal experience and I appreciate you sharing. 37 minutes ago, mtaylor said: How many water tanks were there as built? It's possible that that one or two more were added to ensure water for a voyage. Mark, I would think that the majority of the tanks would have been off the shelf items. The Navy signs a contract for X number of tanks in X number of sizes and installs them as required? That seems logical but...Roger maybe able to shed light on that. The tag is slightly cupped and I assume the dark area on the reverse is where tag was soldered to the tank. mtaylor, Dave_E, BANYAN and 1 other 4 Quote Current Builds: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Pellett Posted July 6, 2022 Share #638 Posted July 6, 2022 I looked up Madawaska in Canney’s Old Steam Navy. He gives a launch date of July 1865 but no commissioning date. In the text he mentions a September 1866 sea trial. Her sisters required 2-3 years from launch until commissioning. I see no reason to doubt the authenticity of your nameplate. I believe that the tank was probably made especially for the ship at the New York Navy Yard. Roger KeithAug, Glen McGuire, Keith Black and 3 others 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefClanker Posted July 11, 2022 Share #639 Posted July 11, 2022 Ahoy, Keith, We may find it difficult to recognize when God is giving us the emotional, mental, and spiritual strength to face what we must, but He does. Glad to hear this particular chapter is behind. Still, a parent should never have to bury a child. My prayers continue to go with you. Mark Glen McGuire, robdurant, mtaylor and 4 others 6 1 Quote Results, not Excuses, ChiefClanker “Behold, how good and pleasant it is when brothers and sisters dwell in unity!" Ps 133:1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingFish Posted August 1, 2022 Share #640 Posted August 1, 2022 Just read your log for the first time Keith; so very sorry to learn of your loss, and feel bad that I didn't take the time to follow your build until now. So pleased that you find comfort in this community, and I add my condolences to those above. I can't begin to imagine how you feel, but I do think that getting on with pratical things at a time of loss is a very good way of keeping some sense of normality and purpose; and your boat is the most wonderful creation. I will keep following from now on, and my very best wishes to you and your family. ChiefClanker, mtaylor, BrianK and 4 others 6 1 Quote Andy 'You're gonna need a bigger boat!' Completed Build: Orca from the film 'Jaws'. Current Build: Sailing Trawler Vigilance BM76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriedClams Posted August 3, 2022 Share #641 Posted August 3, 2022 Catching up after some time away and pleased to hear that you’re moving forward in life Keith, as difficult as that process may be. It’s all anyone can do after personal tragedy strikes. Life is short and so fragile, but it needs to be lived and enjoyed as best we can. Glad to see you were able to acquire that nameplate. Great score and it will be a really nice addition to your finished model display. Gary Dave_E, mbp521, mtaylor and 2 others 4 1 Quote Current Build Pelican Eastern-Rig Dragger Completed Scratch Builds Rangeley Guide Boat New England Stonington Dragger 1940 Auto Repair Shop Mack FK Shadowbox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Black Posted August 23, 2022 Author Share #642 Posted August 23, 2022 A long over due of thanks to Roger for his comments regarding the 40 gallon ID tag and to Mark, Andy, and Gary for their thoughtful comments. A grateful thank you to each of you for stopping by and providing support and being a part of my journey. Getting to the where I left off point wasn't easy but I have finally made progress on the Tennessee, both the main and foremast now have all their blocks installed. Almost two years ago I installed a bunch of blocks on the foremast. When I picked back up a month and a half ago I had to remove most of those blocks due to either being poorly stropped or because of incorrect placement. There are 29 blocks on the mainmast and 24 on the foremast. I should have been able to do this work in three weeks but it took time to get focused and my fingers retrained. I have temporarily run the main, top and topgallant mast stays as a dress rehearsal to make sure there won't be any unpleasant surprises once I start rigging. If you note the main top platforms you'll see two sets of bulls eyes, these are for the top and topgallant stays. It works and it's logical but I'm not sure it's correct but right or wrong, I'm moving forward. Once again, thank you. KeithAug, ChiefClanker, Roger Pellett and 16 others 19 Quote Current Builds: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBlack Posted August 23, 2022 Share #643 Posted August 23, 2022 Keith, Glad you're back at it. You've done such a marvelous job to date. We're all inspired! Tom FriedClams, Keith Black, mtaylor and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbp521 Posted August 23, 2022 Share #644 Posted August 23, 2022 Keith, you just made my day. So glad to see you back at it. Looking good! -Brian FriedClams, mtaylor, Keith Black and 1 other 3 1 Quote Current Builds: Completed Builds: Mississippi River Towboat Caroline N. HMB Endeavor: Artesania Latina USS Constitution - Cross Section: Mamoli Non-Ship Builds: HMS Victory - Cross Section: Corel New Shipyard King of the Mississippi - Steamboat: Artesania Latina Battle Station Section: Panart (Gallery) In Dry-dock Chaperon - 1884 Steamer: Model Shipways USS Constellation: Aretesania Latina USS Cairo - 1862 Ironclad: Scratch Build Flying Fish: Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted August 23, 2022 Share #645 Posted August 23, 2022 Great to see you back, Keith. Reworks are usually not fun but the results are worth it. Dave_E, mbp521, FriedClams and 1 other 3 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen McGuire Posted August 23, 2022 Share #646 Posted August 23, 2022 I echo what Tom, Brian, and Mark say above. Your additional progress on the Tennessee is fantastic, but the best part is seeing you back and working on it. Keith Black, mbp521, Dave_E and 3 others 5 1 Quote Current builds: BlueJacket Constitution Repair & Build Flying Dutchman/Black Pearl Pirates of the Caribbean SIB Gallery: Mamoli CSS Alabama; Amati Hannah-SIB; Charles W Morgan-SIB; Aurora-SIB; Independence-SIB; Zheng He Treasure Fleet-SIB; Adventure Galley-SIB; Oseberg/Kraken-SIB; Roman Quinquereme/Archimedes' Claw-SIB; Wa'a Kualua-SIB; Ghost Ship Jenny-SIB; Banshee II-SIB, Completed build logs: Alabama; Hannah; Morgan; Aurora; Independence; Zheng He Treasure Fleet; Captain Kidd's Adventure Galley; Oseberg/Kraken; Roman Quinquereme/Archimedes' Claw, Wa'a Kualua, Ghost Ship Jenny; Banshee II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted August 23, 2022 Share #647 Posted August 23, 2022 Great to see your update; welcome back mate. Looking terrific. cheers Pat Keith Black, mtaylor, FriedClams and 2 others 4 1 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJohnson Posted August 23, 2022 Share #648 Posted August 23, 2022 Good to see you back working on the Tennessee Keith, really looking smart! 👍 Keith Black, Dave_E, FriedClams and 2 others 4 1 Quote Andrew Current builds:- HM Gun-brig Sparkler - Vanguard (1/64) , HMAV Bounty - Caldercraft (1/64) Completed (Kits):- Vanguard Models (1/64) :- HM Cutter Trial , Nisha - Brixham trawler Caldercraft (1/64) :- HMS Orestes(Mars), HM Cutter Sherbourne Paper Shipwright (1/250) :- TSS Earnslaw, Puffer Starlight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingFish Posted August 23, 2022 Share #649 Posted August 23, 2022 Looking good Keith! Dave_E, mtaylor, FriedClams and 2 others 4 1 Quote Andy 'You're gonna need a bigger boat!' Completed Build: Orca from the film 'Jaws'. Current Build: Sailing Trawler Vigilance BM76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted August 23, 2022 Share #650 Posted August 23, 2022 Tennessee is looking awesome! mbp521, mtaylor, Keith Black and 2 others 4 1 Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Black Posted August 23, 2022 Author Share #651 Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) Tom, Brian, Mark, Glen, Pat, Andrew, Andy, and Phil, thank so much for the kind comments and thank you to each one of you for the likes. Your kindness and support is why I was able to start work again on the Tennessee. I am humbled and truly blessed. In my last post I asked that you note the bulls eyes on the tops platform. After looking at the pictures I posted one would be hard pressed to "note the bulls eyes" so I've added a few more photos where you can actually see what "note" is. And I have to apologize for the quality of the photos. My camera is a Canon Rebel EOS T3. I have 7, 100 watt LED daylight bulbs for a light source and I still get less than satisfactory images. If I use flash I get a sharp image image but shadows, if I use the LED lights I get a fuzzy image but it's pretty shadow free. Frustrating to say the least. Again, thank you. Mainmast Foremast Edited August 24, 2022 by Keith Black mtaylor, Glen McGuire, TBlack and 10 others 11 2 Quote Current Builds: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted August 24, 2022 Share #652 Posted August 24, 2022 Try this Keith... put a piece of foil over the flash such that next to no light gets out and then shoot using the "flash" setting. Some cameras set the aperture down for flash and that improves the focus. Looks like your close so short focal length. Or maybe try a manual setting. Try some experiments see if any of that helps. Dave_E, mbp521, Keith Black and 2 others 4 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyleK1 Posted August 24, 2022 Share #653 Posted August 24, 2022 Just beautiful work! mtaylor, mbp521, FriedClams and 2 others 4 1 Quote Lyle "The only thing that stays the same is the constant state of change" Completed Builds: Occre HMS Terror - https://modelshipworld.com/gallery/album/2065-hms-terror-occre/ NRG Half Hull Project - https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23546-half-hull-project-by-lylek1-nrg/ 1:130 1847 Harvey - https://modelshipworld.com/gallery/album/2125-1847-baltimore-clipper-harvey-1130-scale/ Scott Miller's Sea of Galilee Boat - https://modelshipworld.com/topic/29007-sea-of-galilee-boat-by-se-miller-120-scale-lylek1/ In progress: Artesania Latina HMS Bounty - https://modelshipworld.com/topic/26817-hms-bounty-by-lylek1-artesania-latina-148-scale/ Waiting for dry-dock space: Model Shipways - USS Constitution Master Korbel - Cannon Jolle 1801 A Scratch build -TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted August 24, 2022 Share #654 Posted August 24, 2022 she looks fantastic Dave_E, mbp521, FriedClams and 2 others 4 1 Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 Belle Poule 1834 by Kevin - OcCre - 1/90 - French frigate - started June 2024 - - On hold MHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished Hercules by Kevin - OcCre - 1/50 - Tugboat - Finished - May 2024 Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted August 24, 2022 Share #655 Posted August 24, 2022 Nice to see you back with her Keith- looks really crisp and shipshape. Never fails to amaze me when i think about what scale you are working in😁 Keith Keith Black, Dave_E, FriedClams and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingFish Posted August 24, 2022 Share #656 Posted August 24, 2022 (edited) 19 hours ago, Keith Black said: Frustrating to say the least. Mark's advice sounds very good to me. I know exactly what you mean Keith; had the same problem myself. I used the Admiral's Lumix to take some of my shots, and on automatic focus or flash I got the same results as you when close-up to the subject - (well actually yours are a deal better than mine to be fair). Then, under patient tuition, (as I am clueless on this really) I was shown how to put the thing in to 'aperture priority mode' and increase the indirect lighting (reflecting my anglepoise lamp off a white sheet) whilst making the aperture smaller. After a bit of trial an error I did get a passable improvement. Here's a snap taken on auto... ...and one with 'the method': If yours has the same button, it might be worth a go. Failing that others who really understand cameras will surely chip in! Edited August 24, 2022 by FlyingFish Keith Black, mbp521, mtaylor and 5 others 6 2 Quote Andy 'You're gonna need a bigger boat!' Completed Build: Orca from the film 'Jaws'. Current Build: Sailing Trawler Vigilance BM76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianK Posted August 27, 2022 Share #657 Posted August 27, 2022 Looking great Keith. I am excited for you! (and for me to watch your work 😃 ) Brian AJohnson, FriedClams, Glen McGuire and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithAug Posted August 27, 2022 Share #658 Posted August 27, 2022 Beautiful detail Keith - creating the rigging detail must be a real challenge and you are doing so well. TBlack, BrianK, Dave_E and 5 others 7 1 Quote Keith Current Build:- Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24 Previous Builds:- Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/ Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702 J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029 Other Topics Nautical Adventures http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriedClams Posted August 28, 2022 Share #659 Posted August 28, 2022 Very nice to see you back at it Keith. The Tennessee looks great! Beautiful! Gary Glen McGuire, Dave_E, AJohnson and 3 others 5 1 Quote Current Build Pelican Eastern-Rig Dragger Completed Scratch Builds Rangeley Guide Boat New England Stonington Dragger 1940 Auto Repair Shop Mack FK Shadowbox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Black Posted September 1, 2022 Author Share #660 Posted September 1, 2022 (edited) Mark and Andy, thank you for the photography tips and Lyle, Kevin, Keith C, Brian, KeithAug, and Gary, thank you for your kind comments. I finally got a decent photo of the bulls eyes albeit only one pair. This taken with flash, using flash seems to be the only way I can get a good sharp close up. When I enter the room I use as the shipyard, before turning on the lights and starting work, the Tennessee greets me silhouetted in one of the south facing windows. There really are nine yards, the mizzen topsail is eclipsed. God bless and thank you to all for the likes and for following along on my journey. Edited September 1, 2022 by Keith Black Siggi52, mcb, LyleK1 and 14 others 16 1 Quote Current Builds: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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