HMS Agamemnon by mobbsie - FINISHED - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1/64

[gjdale]

Looking good Mobbsie. Those catharpins look really swish.

[augie]

Glad you've sorted out the photo problem.  Catharpins look great.  And I like the netting on the rails on the top.  Classy!

[mobbsie]

Hi Grant / Augie,

 

Thanks for the good words and kind comments guys, very much appreciated.

 

Augie, the netting was kindly sent to me from Grant, I couldn't get the correct pattern here and he had it in bucketful's. That netting has since spread itself all over the country and the Netherlands to you know who. Grant also made up two full sets of blocks for myself and Sjors for our Aggies, that in itself provides a challenge because I have to do them justice.

 

Grant, the Catherpin pattern I copied from you apart from soldering the end loops and the painting so thank you for the idea.

 

Be Good

 

mobbsie

[trippwj]

Dang, Mobbsie - are you sure these are photo's of a model?  VERY impressive work!

[mobbsie]

You embarrass me Wayne, please keep it up. :D

 

Thanks my friend.

 

Be Good

 

mobbsie

[Sjors]

Mobbsie,

 

What are you doing.....

You are doing such a great job that it is difficult for me to improve that !

Great rigging job you showing us !

 

[Shazmira]

Mobbsie, your rope work looks first class, very neat and tidy and lined up just the way it should be. I am very impressed!

[texxn5]

Looking good Mate, keep it up.  Good to see your progress.  I'll be watching this as it seems to be in my near future ....

[augie]

GREAT SCOTT!    Grant is supplying blocks and netting worldwide !!!!  Have the authorities been notified......appropriate tariffs collected...... international embargoes adhered to ???  This is a great place

[texxn5]

I'm trying to figure out how to get on the list......

[Script]

Mobbsie,

 

Great work.

 

If you had a nautical poster behind it or took the pics with a natural background it would look like the real thing!  As it is, I wonder how you get a full size AGGY in your house?

 

Cheers,

 

Jim

[PMG]

Mobbsie,

fantastic, as usual...

What's your program in May? I suppose your Aggie is completed in April.

Pierre

[popeye the sailor]

some pictures................eye candy.....YUM!!!    looks really sweet Mobbsie.   you starting to make me feel bad...I don't even have my main shrouds done yet........I'm a baaaaaddddd boy!

[mtaylor]

Beautiful work, Mobbsie and you have the pictures to prove it.  

[Blue Ensign]

Just spent a while reading thro' your log Mobbsie,  a very impressive build

 

Do you intend to blacken the inside of the dummy guns, I think it may enhance the look and give contrast to the bright brass muzzles.

 

Cheers,

 

B.E.

[mobbsie]

Hi Guys

 

Thank you all very much for your very kind comments and remarks and for everyone who pressed the like button, I really do appreciate it, THANKS.

 

B.E.  

 

I hadn't thought about, but I think I will, it will give me something to do whilst waiting for the stretch to come out on the portside main shrouds. As if I couldn't find something to do.  

 

Unfortunately it wont just be the dummy guns but all of them, I did toy with the idea of putting muzzle plugs on when I first started but for some reason forgot all about it, maybe next time. So for now it's out with the black paint and a very fine brush and try to steady a very shaky hand.  

 

A quick update while I'm on, as I posted earlier the main shrouds, futtock staves and futtock shrouds have been done so I started with the starboard side ratlines, on completion I noticed the main mast had been pulled out of alignment and was leaning to starboard, I don't know if the ratlines would have had anything to do with it so it was a case of tightening up the portside lanyards, not so easy when they have already been tied off.

 

Lanyards removed new ones fitted and of we go, not so fast, on tightening the lanyards the deadeyes ended up touching and so the deadeyes on the shrouds had to be removed and the shroud shortened, this has now been done and the lanyards refitted but not tied off.

 

It bugs me to think that I'm still making stupid mistakes when I should know better.   :angry:    

 

I'll have an update with pictures when I have completed the port ratlines, that'll be in about a week I hope. I'm not as quick as "you know who".  

 

Be Good

 

mobbsie

[egkb]

Hi Mobbsie, is it really bad that I take some comfort in the fact that even the best builders have 'snafu' moments too.. :)

 

You've got one beautiful build going on there mate.

 

Eamonn

[mobbsie]

Hi Eamonn

 

Thanks for the good words mate.

 

Go for it, you take as much satisfaction as you need, you can find that in bucket loads here, only to pleased to help a fellow builder.         

 

Be Good

 

mobbsie

[riverboat]

Tony... she looks smashing!!.... your rigging is to be envied.... great work Tony!!

Frank

[gjdale]

Hi Mobbsie,

 

Great work so far mate. A pity about having to re-do the shrouds/dead-eyes, but better to find out now rather than later on!

 

Looking forward to more pics.

[Shazmira]

My theory is this Mobssie, the result of becoming a better modeler is not that the better modeler doesn't make mistakes, but rather that the better modeler recognizes the mistakes sooner (when it easier to fix)

[mobbsie]

Hi Robbyn

 

I like your thinking, I would love to meet that better modeller that's lurking within me somewhere, at the moment it's mission impossible.   :D  

 

Be Good

 

mobbsie

[mtaylor]

My theory is this Mobssie, the result of becoming a better modeler is not that the better modeler doesn't make mistakes, but rather that the better modeler recognizes the mistakes sooner (when it easier to fix)

 

Now that should be hung on the wall somewhere!!!!

[gjdale]

Hi Robbyn

 

I like your thinking, I would love to meet that better modeller that's lurking within me somewhere, at the moment it's mission impossible.   :D  

 

Be Good

 

mobbsie

Mobbsie,

 

I found your inner better modeller! He's been over on my log, sending me around the buoy several times! (for which, I might add, I am most grateful).

[mobbsie]

Mobbsie,

 

I found your inner better modeller! He's been over on my log, sending me around the buoy several times! (for which, I might add, I am most grateful).

Hi Grant,

 

Would you mind sending him back over here mate, I'm in need of him. I hope he did his bit and took one oar at least, cant have him slacking.     

 

Just a quick verbal update, all the shrouds and deadeyes are now fixed, you could play a tune on the shrouds they are that tight and I've now started on the ratlines, 4 rows completed so far.  

 

I will post some pics very soon, I do have some in the bank at the moment, it will be a good test to see if I've done things right, with Lawrence and Marks help I should have deleted IE11 and blocked further Microsoft updates, here's hoping.   :)  

 

Be Good

 

mobbsie

[augie]

Looking forward to the pictorial update.  I won't even make a comment about your immersion in ratline technology.

 

Yup, IE 11 just didn't cut it here either.

[Ray]

Hi Mobbsie we all make mistakes I should know I have just spent two weeks sorting one out, the good thing is its done and we will not look back wish we had done it. Good luck with the ratlines the most tedious part of any build.

[Shazmira]

I have a question for anyone who has done shrouds and ratlines. I understand the issue at times with the shroud lines pulling the mast out of alignment like Mobbsie spoke of, but I wonder if ratlines, too can cause issues. Would it be better to leave all the lanyards untied (by that I mean not permanently glued) until all ratlines are done on a shroud? Or would that just cause issues with pulling the deadeyes out of alignment, when giving them a final tweak and gluing in place? On mine I have always had the lanyards completely secured before running any ratlines, but it was just a thought that flew through my head that leaving the lanyards unglued until complete might be a better option.

[Sailor1234567890]

That's an issue you would face in a full sized ship as well. If you haul the ratlines taught between each shroud, you'll tend to pull the masts out of alignment. If you leave them slack (as they should be) you shouldn't run into any trouble like that. If the shrouds are properly tensioned, you'll find that loose ratlines should not pull it out of alignment.

[mobbsie]

I understand what you are saying Robbyn and there could be a problem after the ratlines have been completed.

 

If the shrouds are not fixed and the ratlines are tied you could when tightening the shrouds pull the ratlines out of alignment, so instead of getting nice neat rows of ratlines they could look like a mountain range, all up and down.

 

I think what Sailer1234567890 is saying is that if the ratlines are tied with the correct tension across the shroud ropes they should have a slight downward curve in them, so that they will not or at least should not pull the shrouds out of alignment.

 

Ratlines when tied should not pull the masts out of alignment but incorrect tension on the shroud lines will, there lies another problem because I think that temperature and humidity also have an effect on the shrouds plus of course any stretch in the ropes used.

 

Any stretch in the rope should be removed before tying the shrouds, this I think is where I went wrong, I got the tension wrong and did not remove the stretch on the portside, when I tied the starboard side I took the stretch out of the rope but failed to do the same on the portside and so at some stage the mast was pulled over to the starboard side and I hadn't noticed until much later.

 

In brief, secure the shroud ropes before you do the ratlines.

 

Hope that helps to answer your question and I apologize for the long winded explanation, if I have it wrong I'm sure somebody else can put me right.

 

Be Good

 

mobbsie

Edited January 20, 2014 by mobbsie