oakheart Posted February 2 #271 Posted February 2 3 hours ago, chris watton said: will be live soon I just put one in my basket along with Hornblower Thanks Chris Canute, Kevin, thibaultron and 2 others 5 Current Builds : Cutter "Speedy" 1828 from Plans by Bill Shoulders at 148 Bounty Launch - Scratch build - FINISHED 85 ft. Harbour Tug. scratch built from plans by Francis Smith. ( FINISHED but no build log for this ) HMS Lightning. kit bashed from Deans Marine HMS Kelly kit ( FINISHED ) yes at last....
JeffT Posted February 2 #272 Posted February 2 They would be nice if available in the other boat types as well, like launches and yawls for example 😃 chris watton, Canute and thibaultron 3 Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard
chris watton Posted February 2 Author #273 Posted February 2 30 minutes ago, JeffT said: They would be nice if available in the other boat types as well, like launches and yawls for example 😃 I do plan to have a full suite of these in this form, but they take time. Concentrating on clinker boats first is my priority, as these are never easy to plank in small wood form. Not quick to produce, too, the smallest takes 5 hours to print, the middle size 7 hours, and the 32nd scale hull is 12 hours. JeffT, jpalmer1970, mgatrost and 10 others 11 2 Vanguard Models on Facebook
JeffT Posted February 3 #274 Posted February 3 2 hours ago, chris watton said: I do plan to have a full suite of these in this form, but they take time. Concentrating on clinker boats first is my priority, as these are never easy to plank in small wood form. Not quick to produce, too, the smallest takes 5 hours to print, the middle size 7 hours, and the 32nd scale hull is 12 hours. Wow. I didn't realize they took so long to print. Canute, thibaultron and mtaylor 3 Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard
oakheart Posted February 5 #275 Posted February 5 On 2/2/2024 at 7:55 PM, chris watton said: Cutter (full kit – various scales) – VANGUARD MODELS My 1:48 scale has just dropped through the letter box. Quality is fantastic. Thanks Chris @chris watton Now it's out with the paints. Tim Canute, GrandpaPhil, AJohnson and 4 others 7 Current Builds : Cutter "Speedy" 1828 from Plans by Bill Shoulders at 148 Bounty Launch - Scratch build - FINISHED 85 ft. Harbour Tug. scratch built from plans by Francis Smith. ( FINISHED but no build log for this ) HMS Lightning. kit bashed from Deans Marine HMS Kelly kit ( FINISHED ) yes at last....
flyer Posted February 6 #276 Posted February 6 Very nice! This seems to be a 18ft cutter. Do you also plan to offer a smaller 12ft or 14ft boat, suitable for your smaller vessels, such as Alert? mtaylor, thibaultron and Canute 3 current build: The Naval Cutter Alert by flyer - Vanguard Models - scale 1:64 completed builds: HMS Bellerophon by flyer - Victory Models - scale 1:72 Yacht America by flyer - Mamoli - scale 1:66 - with some alterations Dolphyn Corel 1/50 Wasa Corel 1/75 La Gloire C.Mamoli 1/90 HM Bomb Vessel Granado JoTiKa HM Bomb Vessel Granado 1756 CC kit 1:64 Victory Models 1/64 HMS Pegasus by Flyer HMS Pickle, my interpretation
chris watton Posted February 6 Author #277 Posted February 6 22 minutes ago, flyer said: Very nice! This seems to be a 18ft cutter. Do you also plan to offer a smaller 12ft or 14ft boat, suitable for your smaller vessels, such as Alert? I have shrank the file for a 16 footer (3-d print and laser cut parts), which I shall produce in the next few weeks (64th) I say a few weeks because right now, I am laser cutting production parts for Adder and Sherbourne. flyer, oakheart, AJohnson and 9 others 12 Vanguard Models on Facebook
AJohnson Posted February 8 #278 Posted February 8 Stopping by your website watching for Adder/Sherbourne updates and spotted you have a “Customers models” section, a nice touch. Are you actively wanting those sending or you approaching builders directly? Canute, thibaultron and chris watton 3 Andrew Current builds:- HM Gun-brig Sparkler - Vanguard (1/64) , HMAV Bounty - Caldercraft (1/64) Completed (Kits):- Vanguard Models (1/64) :- HM Cutter Trial , Nisha - Brixham trawler Caldercraft (1/64) :- HMS Orestes(Mars), HM Cutter Sherbourne Paper Shipwright (1/250) :- TSS Earnslaw, Puffer Starlight
chris watton Posted February 8 Author #279 Posted February 8 11 minutes ago, AJohnson said: Stopping by your website watching for Adder/Sherbourne updates and spotted you have a “Customers models” section, a nice touch. Are you actively wanting those sending or you approaching builders directly? You can send them via PM, no problem! Am currently masting and rigging Adder (only on shrouds, first job for rigging), this will be another two weeks, then I do the same for Sherbourne. After this, I need to put the manuals together (last job, which will take a full week at least - plans are already fully complete). So am thinking the end of next month for release, assuming no delays for printed stuff. Whilst trying to finish the models, I am also laser cutting the production sheets for each, which is about 30% complete as I type. All PE is already here with me and all resin fittings complete. Adder will go in a Grecian sized box, and Sherbourne Fifie/Zulu box. After these two, work will start on a medium sized kit, but I will take my time on this, I feel I need to slow down a little.... mtaylor, BrochBoating, AJohnson and 16 others 19 Vanguard Models on Facebook
AJohnson Posted February 8 #280 Posted February 8 On 1/12/2024 at 4:19 PM, chris watton said: OK, just a little update. I have been very busy, if not producing stuff, then trying to carry on with my next two smaller developments. Today I finally completed the hull detail for kit number 15, the gun brig Adder of 14 guns (1797 - Acute Class). 12 x 18 Pounder carronades and 2x24 Pounder carriage guns. I think this has taken three weeks in total to get this far, perhaps two weeks for masts and rig. Size wise this fits neatly in between Alert and Speedy. The designs were a lot more involved than I initially anticipated, with the bluff bow and foredeck drooping down as it goes forward, presumably to help negate the recoil of the large 24 Pounders. As with Trial Cutter, it has drop keels, and all hull detail above main wale is pre cut and engraved, meaning very little planking required, which is also painted (or coppered) anyway. This was meant to be a nice cheap and simple kit, but as usual, I went too far, and ended up with a very detailed little kit with many laser cut and engraved sheets. Scale - 1:64th (of course..) Hull Length - 406mm Overall Length (Rigged) - 606mm Height Overall - 464mm This class was a Henslow design, and if you don't like the name, there is quite a choice: Acute Adder Asp Assault Biter Blazer Bouncer Boxer Bruiser Clinker Contest Cracker Crash (!!) Sparkler Spiteful All ordered and built in 1797 Adder was actually lengthened in 1798 to 97' along the main deck, so I doubt she was ever coppered in the as built guise. Most seem to have been coppered at a much later date after their launch, hence the white bottom. No idea how well this will sell.... The Kent history forum is a treasure trove of info for many things nautical. This link might be useful for anyone tempted by the Adder and her sisters. https://kenthistoryforum.com/index.php?topic=111.0 thibaultron, Canute, Pitan and 3 others 6 Andrew Current builds:- HM Gun-brig Sparkler - Vanguard (1/64) , HMAV Bounty - Caldercraft (1/64) Completed (Kits):- Vanguard Models (1/64) :- HM Cutter Trial , Nisha - Brixham trawler Caldercraft (1/64) :- HMS Orestes(Mars), HM Cutter Sherbourne Paper Shipwright (1/250) :- TSS Earnslaw, Puffer Starlight
chris watton Posted February 14 Author #281 Posted February 14 (edited) One down, one to go... Edited February 14 by chris watton Rustyj, mtaylor, Craigie65 and 39 others 33 9 Vanguard Models on Facebook
Thukydides Posted February 14 #282 Posted February 14 I don’t know how you manage to design and build so many ships so quickly. She is a very interesting looking ship with the drop keels and bow chasers. DB789, thibaultron, catopower and 4 others 7 Current Builds: HMS Perseus (Scratch) Completed Builds: Type VII C U Boat (HobbyBoss); HM Cutter Alert (Vanguard Models)
chris watton Posted February 14 Author #283 Posted February 14 11 minutes ago, Thukydides said: I don’t know how you manage to design and build so many ships so quickly. She is a very interesting looking ship with the drop keels and bow chasers. I did rush the rig, cut a lot of corners, meaning it took around 5 days from shrouds to braces - but I only need the model to look presentable for box art... Craigie65, GrandpaPhil, CiscoH and 10 others 9 2 2 Vanguard Models on Facebook
AJohnson Posted February 14 #284 Posted February 14 4 hours ago, chris watton said: I did rush the rig, cut a lot of corners, meaning it took around 5 days from shrouds to braces - but I only need the model to look presentable for box art... I don’t know Chris, your rushed rigging in 5 days would make most of us very happy if we did it! 🤣 chris watton, catopower, Canute and 5 others 6 2 Andrew Current builds:- HM Gun-brig Sparkler - Vanguard (1/64) , HMAV Bounty - Caldercraft (1/64) Completed (Kits):- Vanguard Models (1/64) :- HM Cutter Trial , Nisha - Brixham trawler Caldercraft (1/64) :- HMS Orestes(Mars), HM Cutter Sherbourne Paper Shipwright (1/250) :- TSS Earnslaw, Puffer Starlight
chris watton Posted February 14 Author #285 Posted February 14 34 minutes ago, AJohnson said: I don’t know Chris, your rushed rigging in 5 days would make most of us very happy if we did it! 🤣 Well, it wouldn't stand up to too close a scrutiny - used lots of CA for securing knots instead of the usual PVA, so if damaged, it will be a nightmare to fix. Also lots of simple knots instead of the more usual seizings. I have included minimal rig for this, with running rigging being just tyes, lifts and braces - but still manages to look pretty busy up top. Still laser cutting the parts for both kits, onto the laser etched decks. This time, for both Adder and Sherbourne, I am using more power for the engraved parts, so they are not so light, as seen on the prototpe models (which have the exact same batch of 0.8mm pear I used for the prototypes and the same laser engrave and cut settings). druxey, BrochBoating, KentM and 7 others 10 Vanguard Models on Facebook
chris watton Posted February 14 Author #286 Posted February 14 I very much like this: (STEVEN DEWS (1949-) HMS Centurion & the Spanish Treasure ship Nuestra Señora de Covadonga GrandpaPhil, TJM, JeffT and 22 others 24 1 Vanguard Models on Facebook
Morgan Posted February 14 #287 Posted February 14 You’ve mentioned before this is an itch you want to scratch, just go for it 😉 Gary hollowneck, Canute, chris watton and 3 others 6
AJohnson Posted February 14 #288 Posted February 14 2 hours ago, Morgan said: You’ve mentioned before this is an itch you want to scratch, just go for it 😉 Gary You are definitely going to need bigger premises at this rate Chris! mtaylor, hollowneck, thibaultron and 2 others 5 Andrew Current builds:- HM Gun-brig Sparkler - Vanguard (1/64) , HMAV Bounty - Caldercraft (1/64) Completed (Kits):- Vanguard Models (1/64) :- HM Cutter Trial , Nisha - Brixham trawler Caldercraft (1/64) :- HMS Orestes(Mars), HM Cutter Sherbourne Paper Shipwright (1/250) :- TSS Earnslaw, Puffer Starlight
JeffT Posted February 14 #289 Posted February 14 Liking the covadonga. chris watton, mtaylor, hollowneck and 3 others 5 1 Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard
chris watton Posted February 16 Author #290 Posted February 16 ..And second prototype model done. Well, still have the clear acetate stand to add, but rig completed literally minutes ago... Sherbourne (64th) BenD, hollowneck, KentM and 34 others 32 1 4 Vanguard Models on Facebook
Kevin Posted February 16 #291 Posted February 16 she also looks great Canute, mtaylor, AJohnson and 3 others 6 Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 Belle Poule 1834 by Kevin - OcCre - 1/90 - French frigate - started June 2024 - - On hold MHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished Hercules by Kevin - OcCre - 1/50 - Tugboat - Finished - May 2024 Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat
AJohnson Posted February 16 #292 Posted February 16 That brings a smile to my face, like many I cut my wooden model boat building teeth on the Caldercraft Sherbourne, how kits have moved on! mtaylor, hollowneck, Canute and 3 others 6 Andrew Current builds:- HM Gun-brig Sparkler - Vanguard (1/64) , HMAV Bounty - Caldercraft (1/64) Completed (Kits):- Vanguard Models (1/64) :- HM Cutter Trial , Nisha - Brixham trawler Caldercraft (1/64) :- HMS Orestes(Mars), HM Cutter Sherbourne Paper Shipwright (1/250) :- TSS Earnslaw, Puffer Starlight
chris watton Posted February 16 Author #293 Posted February 16 3 minutes ago, AJohnson said: That brings a smile to my face, like many I cut my wooden model boat building teeth on the Caldercraft Sherbourne, how kits have moved on! I remember doing that, I did that and I think a Ballahoo Class Schooner at the same time back in 2000, took about 3 weeks from very start to finish. This one took quite a bit longer, and I hope it will show in the kit. KentM, mtaylor, Ryland Craze and 6 others 9 Vanguard Models on Facebook
ccoyle Posted February 16 #294 Posted February 16 46 minutes ago, AJohnson said: That brings a smile to my face, like many I cut my wooden model boat building teeth on the Caldercraft Sherbourne, how kits have moved on! Here's my old "Sherbourne Mk. I". Tweaked her to include a spreadyard rig. Never did get a case for her -- she's still sitting in the same wooden cradle. DocRob, Kevin, Canute and 19 others 21 1 Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
chris watton Posted February 16 Author #295 Posted February 16 Very nice, Chris! Next week I shall start the manuals for Adder and Sherbourne, which will be the final big job. JeffT, hollowneck, mtaylor and 10 others 13 Vanguard Models on Facebook
Pitan Posted February 17 #296 Posted February 17 Sherbourne looks lovely, I'm very tempted to build her as my first double planked kit. thibaultron, AJohnson, Canute and 5 others 8 Robert Current: HM Cutter Sherbourne (Vanguard Models), Captain John Smith's Shallop Finished: 15th century wooden boat
chris watton Posted February 17 Author #297 Posted February 17 I will not be able to get Sherbourne as cheap as the other one, as this is very pre fabricated with many more parts, but I do plan to subsidise the first batch so that I retail it for under £150. One of my aims (as well as making a little profit) has always been to encourage new modellers to the hobby, and not put them off with crap. Sherbourne has 19 A3 size plan sheets (as well as a full colour A4 manual), with 10 plan sheets dedicated to the very simple masts and rig, breaking the rigging down into bite size portions. I have included here the plan sheets for the laser cut sheets and PE, so you can see what actually goes into the bulk of this kit, as well as a couple of profile plans. BenD, Pitan, Guyuti and 34 others 33 2 2 Vanguard Models on Facebook
Nipper Posted February 17 #298 Posted February 17 Excellent idea Chris - so that a new generation of modellers will say, in 20 years' time, "I cut my teeth on Vanguard's Sherbourne" !! Nipper Canute, thibaultron, mtaylor and 4 others 6 1 Current build: HMS Sphinx 1775 - 1/64 - Vanguard Models Completed build: HM Cutter Alert 1777 - 1/64 - Vanguard Models
DB789 Posted February 17 #299 Posted February 17 34 minutes ago, chris watton said: One of my aims (as well as making a little profit) has always been to encourage new modellers to the hobby, and not put them off with crap. I can attest to your success there! It worked for me. Oboship, jpalmer1970, mtaylor and 6 others 9 Dan Current Build: Yacht Duchess of Kingston (Vanguard Models, 1:64) Previous Builds: Fifie (Vanguard Models, 1:64), Nisha (Vanguard Models, 1:64), Zulu (Vanguard Models, 1:64), Saucy Jack (Vanguard Models, 1:64), Erycina (Vanguard Models, 1:64), HMS Alert (Vanguard Models, 1:64), Grecian (Vanguard Models, 1:64), Ranger (Vanguard Models, 1:64), HM Gun Brig Adder (Vanguard Models, 1:64) Waiting to be Built: Speedy (Vanguard Models, 1:64)
Blue Ensign Posted February 17 #300 Posted February 17 You've developed a great range of smaller naval ships Chris, including cutters for every taste. A re-vitalised Sherbourne is an excellent choice. I may well be tempted as I inexorably move towards my dotage. Well done! B.E. Oboship, hollowneck, mtaylor and 6 others 9 Current Build: Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-1:64-scale HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation.
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