lb0190 Posted January 19, 2014 #781 Posted January 19, 2014 She looks really nice Augie, something to be proud of! augie 1 Quote Regards, Larry ---------------------------------------------------- Current Build US Brig Niagara Completed Builds George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat Future Builds 18th Century Longboat by MS HM Cutter Cheerful Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges
Anja Posted January 19, 2014 #782 Posted January 19, 2014 Hello Augie, Your planking looks superb. Excellent work as always. This is again going to be a masterpiece. Anja augie 1 Quote Those we loved but lost are no longer where they were, but are always where we are. In the gallery: Albatros 1840 - Constructo
edmay Posted January 19, 2014 #783 Posted January 19, 2014 Very classy,your usual high standard,enjoy the game.Edwin augie 1 Quote
Sjors Posted January 19, 2014 #784 Posted January 19, 2014 Great planking Augie !!!!! It's just that smooth that it is almost impossible to get is this way. Who is winning ? augie 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
mtaylor Posted January 19, 2014 #785 Posted January 19, 2014 Great planking, sir. And without spiling too!!! augie 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Trussben Posted January 19, 2014 #786 Posted January 19, 2014 Very nice start to the lower planking Augie, any chance of seeing shots of the stem and stern? Spiling jig in use yet? Ben augie 1 Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
rafine Posted January 19, 2014 #787 Posted January 19, 2014 You've become a Master of Planking, Augie. Beautiful work. Bob augie 1 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
Moonbug Posted January 20, 2014 #788 Posted January 20, 2014 Man that's clean... For a guy (me) who is all thumbs when it comes to planking, that is something to admire. -Bug augie 1 Quote - Bug Current Build: HMS Pegasus - Vanguard Models Completed Builds - Augie's USF Confederacy AL Santa Maria - Heavily Bashed AL San Juan Nepomuceno AL Swift Pilot Boat Cris Craft AL Stagecoach Ship Blog - The Lehman Shipyard
augie Posted January 20, 2014 Author #789 Posted January 20, 2014 Thanks all. I'll get some stem and stern shots once I complete the first belt on the starboard side. Yes, the spiling/edge bending jig is in full operation since about the 6th plank below the wales. It works well once you get the hang of it. That's not to say that everything has gone by without some gnashing of the teeth! We won Sjors. But the game was about as exciting as watching grass grow. On to the SUPER BOWL Sjors and mtaylor 2 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
DSiemens Posted January 20, 2014 #790 Posted January 20, 2014 Great work Augie. She's really coming to life. I didn't watch the game either. I'm not much of a sports guy. The AFC should be much more exciting. augie 1 Quote Daniel We're ship in bottle builders, it's an occupational hazard. www.siemensbottlingco.blogspot.com http://www.bottledshipbuilder.com Current Builds: Bermuda Sloop Wood Krafters Pirate Ship Completed: 20 Gun Frigate Olympic 470 Bermuda Sloop Super Mini Queen Anne's Revenge German Cutter Mercury Santa Maria
popeye the sailor Posted January 20, 2014 #791 Posted January 20, 2014 sweet looking planking Augie.........your doing way better than I am {at the moment}. looks like sanding will be at a minimum as well very nicely done! augie 1 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch
gjdale Posted January 20, 2014 #792 Posted January 20, 2014 Lovely planking job there Augie. If you get bored with football, try tuning in to the Cricket and watch us giving the Poms a severe thrashing (which they thoroughly deserve!) Don't worry if you don't understand the game - you'll soon pick up that we're winning, and that alone will provide many hours of satisfaction. :D mtaylor, augie and egkb 3 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout
Shazmira Posted January 20, 2014 #793 Posted January 20, 2014 Hey, the game was great...because it had the outcome I wanted, GO Broncos!! Planking is superb. I really need to take a trip out your way and figure out what you do differently than me to get such a good result! augie 1 Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version)
trippwj Posted January 20, 2014 #794 Posted January 20, 2014 Looks great Augie. Off to New Jersey today to help keep the Super Bowl safe! Chuck, edmay, augie and 1 other 4 Quote WayneNeither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.Epictetus
augie Posted January 21, 2014 Author #795 Posted January 21, 2014 I've received several PM's on how the spiling/edge bending jig I presented is working at the bow. In response, I've taken a few photos that I'll present here. Let me state that this is not to be taken as a tutorial . It is simply how I do it. You should remember what our bent/spiled planks look like after drying in the jig detailed by Chuck: The forward tip of the plank is beveled to fit securely into the rabbet. Then, the tip and about 3/8" of the side of the plank contacting the adjacent plank above it are glued securely in place. It needs to be completely dry and tight as it will take some stress in establishing the bow curve of the plank. I use thick CA to do this as it is strong and easy to control: A different view just to show how unusual it looks at this point. The blue tape is just there to protect the finished wale: The loose end of the plank is now gently bowed and lightly twisted into position and glued flat to the bulkheads. Notice that the tendency to lift at the lower edge has been defeated: Finally, the plank is glued to the remaining bulkheads: Granted there are some irregularities but these should be mostly eliminated with careful sanding. Laying this plank took about 15 minutes (not including the spiling/bending/drying time). Overall, I'm pleased with the technique. Hope this explains it! Script, lambsbk, phonedudeak and 14 others 17 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
HIPEXEC Posted January 21, 2014 #796 Posted January 21, 2014 Nice job planking. augie 1 Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC
mtaylor Posted January 21, 2014 #797 Posted January 21, 2014 Thanks Augie. Masterful way of doing it. augie 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
realworkingsailor Posted January 21, 2014 #798 Posted January 21, 2014 That looks really sweet. And a good explanation on how you install the bent planks. It may not be a tutorial, but I'm sure many will find this information useful. Andy augie 1 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
Chuck Posted January 21, 2014 #799 Posted January 21, 2014 Thats exactly how I do it. Wonderful explanation. The one thing I might add is that the twisting can be put into the plank ahead of time as well. I usually dip the plank in some water for about 5 seconds. Then clamp the bow end of the plank to the table. Twist the plank carefully as to not change or remove the edge bending. Heat it up with a hair dryer on the hottest setting. This will lock in the twist. You can shape the plank so it will fit perfectly without any coaxing required to put it into place. Chuck Well done Augie. lambsbk, popeye the sailor, WackoWolf and 5 others 8 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY
Rustyj Posted January 21, 2014 #800 Posted January 21, 2014 Hi Augie, Very well described and executed! She's looking good. Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
augie Posted January 21, 2014 Author #801 Posted January 21, 2014 Thanks all. Chuck has added the icing on the cake with the short soak for the twist ! I'm just happy if it gives anyone an idea or two. egkb and mtaylor 2 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
popeye the sailor Posted January 21, 2014 #802 Posted January 21, 2014 looks very nice Augie.......do you bevel the edge, so it will butt up along the plank line? darn nice I've been fastening them while they are still damp.....I'm impatient that way I haven't had any problems with shrinkage.......probably because of the wood I'm using. I'm sure that different wood behave differently when wet. very nice job there.........doesn't look like too huge of a sanding job afterwards augie 1 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch
augie Posted January 21, 2014 Author #803 Posted January 21, 2014 I do a bit of an 'eyeball' bevel Popeye. Nothing sophisticated. I think you're right about shrinkage.....depends on the wood. Some day I'm going to build a double planked hull !! As always, sandpaper is our best friend. mtaylor, CaptCraig and popeye the sailor 3 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
Trussben Posted January 21, 2014 #804 Posted January 21, 2014 Hey Augie, That's exactly how I did it! augie 1 Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
newbuilder101 Posted January 21, 2014 #805 Posted January 21, 2014 Great job! Your method is resulting in lovely planking. Looking forward to more updates! augie 1 Quote Sherry Every goodbye is the birth of a memory... Current Build: San Felipe Finished Builds: Mayflower Build Log Gallery: Mayflower
Moonbug Posted January 21, 2014 #806 Posted January 21, 2014 Great info Augie, thanks for the lesson as always! I've made it no secret that I struggle with planking. - Bug augie 1 Quote - Bug Current Build: HMS Pegasus - Vanguard Models Completed Builds - Augie's USF Confederacy AL Santa Maria - Heavily Bashed AL San Juan Nepomuceno AL Swift Pilot Boat Cris Craft AL Stagecoach Ship Blog - The Lehman Shipyard
augie Posted January 25, 2014 Author #807 Posted January 25, 2014 Just a quick update. The first belt of planking below the wales has been completed P/S. Not bad so far and hopefully sanding will bring everything in line. There will be a molding running across where the counter meets the planks in the stern. Open framework amidships is starting to look nice! Moving on now to the lower most belt starting with the garboard plank and heading up. Holding off on stealers and drop planks until the final belt. Will be trying some 3/16" planks, tapered, for the stern (everything else is 1/8). lambsbk, Adrieke, realworkingsailor and 21 others 24 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
realworkingsailor Posted January 25, 2014 #808 Posted January 25, 2014 **whistles approvingly** Yeah.... Nice job... Andy augie 1 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
Jim Lad Posted January 25, 2014 #809 Posted January 25, 2014 Very neatly done, mate! John augie 1 Quote
gjdale Posted January 25, 2014 #810 Posted January 25, 2014 Verrrrry noice! augie 1 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout
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