GrandpaPhil Posted June 28, 2023 #61 Posted June 28, 2023 The P-38 would only have an 18” wingspan. Definitely hangable. Edwardkenway, AJohnson, Dave_E and 6 others 9 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
AJohnson Posted June 28, 2023 #62 Posted June 28, 2023 3 hours ago, GrandpaPhil said: The P-38 would only have an 18” wingspan. Definitely hangable. Absolutely, I hang the outsized stuff I build, in the workshop/garage. We all want to see you do a “twin” one day Chris! 😁 Old Collingwood, mtaylor, popeye the sailor and 5 others 8 Quote Andrew Current builds:- HM Gun-brig Sparkler - Vanguard (1/64) , HMAV Bounty - Caldercraft (1/64) Completed (Kits):- Vanguard Models (1/64) :- HM Cutter Trial , Nisha - Brixham trawler Caldercraft (1/64) :- HMS Orestes(Mars), HM Cutter Sherbourne Paper Shipwright (1/250) :- TSS Earnslaw, Puffer Starlight
ccoyle Posted June 28, 2023 Author #63 Posted June 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, AJohnson said: Absolutely, I hang the outsized stuff I build, in the workshop/garage. I'm fairly certain that any hanging of models anywhere in my house or garage will negatively impact my marital bliss. 😮 Edwardkenway, Dave_E, popeye the sailor and 10 others 2 10 1 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
Jack12477 Posted June 28, 2023 #64 Posted June 28, 2023 Maybe you could get a new wing dedicated to house the CCoyle Conservatory for the Advancment of Modern Art and History . 😁😁😁😁😇 Old Collingwood, king derelict, Edwardkenway and 9 others 2 10 Quote Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour
ccoyle Posted June 28, 2023 Author #65 Posted June 28, 2023 26 minutes ago, Jack12477 said: Maybe you could get a new wing dedicated to house the CCoyle Conservatory for the Advancment of Modern Art and History . I already get enough push-back on the 'man cave' status of the bonus room where I do my work. 😉 Dave_E, Jack12477, Edwardkenway and 9 others 2 10 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
Canute Posted June 29, 2023 #66 Posted June 29, 2023 Don't forget rule #1, mates: Happy wife, happy life! Else you'll be living in a foxhole or doghouse. Egilman, AJohnson, FriedClams and 6 others 9 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild
popeye the sailor Posted June 29, 2023 #67 Posted June 29, 2023 she coming along really good Chris.........you've got such a knack for these models! Edwardkenway, Jack12477, Dave_E and 8 others 11 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch
ccoyle Posted July 1, 2023 Author #68 Posted July 1, 2023 14 cylinders x 15 parts per cylinder = 210 parts. 🤪 So far I have cut out 70 parts and assembled 32 of them. To be continued . . . Dave_E, Egilman, Edwardkenway and 12 others 11 4 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
ccoyle Posted July 2, 2023 Author #69 Posted July 2, 2023 Small problem -- the indicated part does not exist (34d is just an edge strip), neither as a printed part, a laser-cut element, nor even a numbered part in the diagram. Strange. Gonna have to mull this one over a bit -- the needed part is too big to conveniently cut out with my hole punch. Edwardkenway, CDW, mtaylor and 4 others 5 2 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
realworkingsailor Posted July 2, 2023 #70 Posted July 2, 2023 Is it even a part? Are parts 34 b c and d meant to form a hollow tube with part 34 e meant to be a capping piece? Andy Dave_E, Old Collingwood, Edwardkenway and 3 others 6 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
ccoyle Posted July 2, 2023 Author #71 Posted July 2, 2023 47 minutes ago, realworkingsailor said: Is it even a part? Are parts 34 b c and d meant to form a hollow tube with part 34 e meant to be a capping piece? Andy Nope. 34e is the base for the cylinder heads and is narrower in diameter than the missing part, as indicated by the lighter circle inside the dark ring on the missing piece. Obviously, the head assembly has to sit on something, but the something isn't anywhere to be found in the kit. This is a first for me. Old Collingwood, Edwardkenway, Dave_E and 5 others 7 1 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
realworkingsailor Posted July 2, 2023 #72 Posted July 2, 2023 9 hours ago, ccoyle said: Nope. 34e is the base for the cylinder heads and is narrower in diameter than the missing part, as indicated by the lighter circle inside the dark ring on the missing piece. Obviously, the head assembly has to sit on something, but the something isn't anywhere to be found in the kit. This is a first for me. Hmm… I guess you could try some appropriate diameter styrene rod perhaps? Andy AJohnson, Edwardkenway, Old Collingwood and 4 others 7 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
Egilman Posted July 2, 2023 #73 Posted July 2, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, ccoyle said: Small problem -- the indicated part does not exist (34d is just an edge strip), neither as a printed part, a laser-cut element, nor even a numbered part in the diagram. Strange. Gonna have to mull this one over a bit -- the needed part is too big to conveniently cut out with my hole punch. I don't see the problem brother.... 34, 34a & 34A, #34 is rolled and 34A lazercut is inserted into it's end with 34a capping the cylinder boss.... 34b, c, d & e, b,c & d are rolled and slid into each other forming the cylinders with e capping the end.... 2 Parts f form the cylinder head they are rolled then glued together and then Part 34G lazercuts are inserted into the rocker openings with part 34g as the cap for the rocker covers... Am I missing something? Parts f are edge glued to part e... that's why part e has the line across them to locate the head halves... Part e is the cap to the cylinder with the line guiding the head placement... So the question becomes what shapes the base of the head halves once they are formed and glued together? As I see it you can use part e as the base of the heads and insert a short rod of something suitable to fill the cylinders parts b,c &e... They might have missed a part when designing the lasercut sheets... the cylinder head base... A simple rod filling the cylinders eliminates the problem... That's the way it makes sense to me as I envision the assembly... In fact, looking at it a second time, once you insert lasercut parts 34G into the rocker holes you won't have enough space in the remaining volume of the head for anything else.... your forced to edge glue the head onto the cylinder cap.... Edited July 2, 2023 by Egilman FriedClams, Canute, Edwardkenway and 4 others 7 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"
ccoyle Posted July 2, 2023 Author #74 Posted July 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Egilman said: 34b, c, d & e, b,c & d are rolled and slid into each other forming the cylinders with e capping the end.... Nope. E is the base for the two cylinder heads and fits inside the smaller shaded circle on the un-numbered, missing part. Old Collingwood, mtaylor, Edwardkenway and 3 others 6 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
Egilman Posted July 2, 2023 #75 Posted July 2, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, ccoyle said: Nope. E is the base for the two cylinder heads and fits inside the smaller shaded circle on the un-numbered, missing part. Maybe it's just me brother, but looking at the parts and the diagram it looks like e is the same size as the rolled d... But then I'm only a technical illustrator, not a paper modeler... If it is supposed to fit inside the rolled b,c & d, then it is one heck of an illustration drawing mistake... b & c have lines which show where they are to be glued to each other creating a tapered shape with d wrapping the end creating a lip on the end of the cylinder... what your going to have is a tube with a flat end that is the thickness of three paper tubes... They wouldn't have left that as a bare exposed end, they would have covered it to hide the cut end to make them look uniform and flat... looking at the parts, 34a is much closer to the size of the inside of the cylinder tube b and 34e is much closer to the outside size of cylinder tube d... In my opinion of course... Not trying to argue here my friend, your a lot more experienced in interpreting paper model instructions than I... It doesn't make any sense looking at the actual parts and the exploded parts drawing... Now I'll bow out... it's got to go together some way.... Edited July 2, 2023 by Egilman Dave_E, Canute, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"
Egilman Posted July 2, 2023 #76 Posted July 2, 2023 Update.... just want to point something out my friend, the next step shows the configuration of the head to the cylinder Rys 26... Sorry for the small size, but the black line between the head and cylinder, (red arrow) represents the position of part 34e after the assembly step (Rys) 25... It appears that we are both right, 34e is the base of the head, but it completely covers the outer rim of 34d... which means there wouldn't be an inside part that fits inside 34b.... Not belaboring the point my friend, just looking for an explanation in an effort to help... Old Collingwood, Edwardkenway, Dave_E and 4 others 7 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"
ccoyle Posted July 2, 2023 Author #77 Posted July 2, 2023 Trust me, folks, I have pored over the parts sheets and diagrams multiple times, and I have built many radial engines from paper. The indicated part is missing. I will figure out a way around this issue, and when I do, you'll all be the first to know. 😉 Egilman, Canute, FriedClams and 4 others 7 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
ccoyle Posted July 2, 2023 Author #78 Posted July 2, 2023 Okay, mystery solved -- and boy do I feel a little sheepish about the whole episode! It turns out there is no missing disk. Instead, part 34d wraps three times around the top of the cylinder formed by 34c. Derp!! Canute, FriedClams, Old Collingwood and 11 others 14 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
mtaylor Posted July 2, 2023 #79 Posted July 2, 2023 Don't beat yourself up, Chris. Sometimes, stuff happens or isn't clear in the instructions. I think we've all been there at least once or twice or more. I know have multiple times. Egilman, Dave_E, realworkingsailor and 7 others 10 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Egilman Posted July 2, 2023 #80 Posted July 2, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, mtaylor said: Sometimes, stuff happens or isn't clear in the instructions. I think we've all been there at least once or twice or more. I know have multiple times. Amen.... more times than I care to count for me... Edited July 3, 2023 by Egilman FriedClams, Edwardkenway, Dave_E and 4 others 7 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"
Egilman Posted July 2, 2023 #81 Posted July 2, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, ccoyle said: Okay, mystery solved -- and boy do I feel a little sheepish about the whole episode! It turns out there is no missing disk. Instead, part 34d wraps three times around the top of the cylinder formed by 34c. Had to be something like that brother, I will say they could have been a bit clearer in mentioning it rather than letting people pull their hair out... Didn't mean to offend... Edited July 2, 2023 by Egilman Canute, ccoyle, Edwardkenway and 5 others 8 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"
ccoyle Posted July 8, 2023 Author #82 Posted July 8, 2023 Ugh. One down, thirteen to go. 😑 If you ever see me complaining about card radial engines, this is why! Canute, mtaylor, yvesvidal and 16 others 14 5 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
CDW Posted July 9, 2023 #83 Posted July 9, 2023 The engine cylinders were as much a puzzle as they were a model kit. In the end, it looks great. Canute, ccoyle, Dave_E and 6 others 9 Quote Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700
ccoyle Posted July 15, 2023 Author #84 Posted July 15, 2023 Once again making only very slow progress on the cylinders. I can only do a few parts at a time before the monotony shuts down my will to live. 😑 So far I have finished three cylinders and started the cylinder heads on the remaining eleven. Anyways, while I'm at it I thought I'd try adding some extra detail to the basic engine, using the accompanying Wikipedia image as a reference: I will only be adding a few extra bits, but I might take a crack at the spark plug wires, since they are one feature that is rather obvious in the photo. The coloring of the kit engine also differs from the real thing on a number of points, e.g., the valve covers being brown in the kit but silver in the image. I think the colors seen here are much more visually interesting, although I'm fully aware that this is a bright and shiny display engine and not a tired and weathered service engine. One thing I need to determine before installing the engine (eventually), and I'm certain that at least one person in my audience will know the answer to this question, is which cylinder goes in the 12 o'clock position. The kit diagram shows a front row cylinder in the 12 o'clock position, but the image above, as well as others I have seen online, appear to show a back row cylinder in that position. What can you guys tell me about this? Cheers! Canute, GrandpaPhil, realworkingsailor and 9 others 12 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
Egilman Posted July 15, 2023 #85 Posted July 15, 2023 (edited) #8 goes straight down... That would be the front rank cylinder directly opposite the Propeller Governor Drive which is on top of the gear housing... Pratt Whitney R-1830-75 -98 Service Instructions.pdf P W R-1830 Twin Wasp Maintenance Manual.pdf Yes #1 would be the upward cylinder on the back rank... Edited July 15, 2023 by Egilman Edwardkenway, Old Collingwood, FriedClams and 8 others 11 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"
ccoyle Posted July 27, 2023 Author #86 Posted July 27, 2023 More engine progress. I have added the rear bank of cylinders to the crankcase (BTW, I'm not a mechanic nor mechanically inclined, so my engine terminology is limited). To see what extra detailing I have added so far, you can compare the detailed cylinders to the basic kit cylinder on the left. The front cover on the crankcase and all of the bolt heads are extras, as is the little blue daub of paint, which represents the Pratt & Whitney badge (no, I'm not gonna super-detail the badge -- don't be insane!!). Next step will be adding the push rods to the rear cylinders. bruce d, AJohnson, Jack12477 and 16 others 14 5 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
ccoyle Posted July 28, 2023 Author #87 Posted July 28, 2023 Push rods added. hof00, Egilman, Old Collingwood and 12 others 11 4 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
realworkingsailor Posted July 28, 2023 #88 Posted July 28, 2023 So…. For your next card airplane build you’ll be doing something with an in-line engine? 😜 Looks good (and very tedious)! Andy Edwardkenway, mtaylor, FriedClams and 9 others 12 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
Dave_E Posted July 28, 2023 #89 Posted July 28, 2023 Respectfully INSANE! Your part of a very small community of modeler’s that can turn out this level of perfection, in this scale, in card! 👍😀👏 mtaylor, ccoyle, Ian_Grant and 7 others 10 Quote Dave Current builds: Rattlesnake Completed builds: Lady Nelson On the shelf: NRG Half Hull Project, Various metal, plastic and paper models
ccoyle Posted July 28, 2023 Author #90 Posted July 28, 2023 10 hours ago, realworkingsailor said: So…. For your next card airplane build you’ll be doing something with an in-line engine? 😜 They do seem to follow one of these radial-engined birds for some reason. 🤔 FriedClams, Dave_E, Edwardkenway and 9 others 12 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
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